1957 Biarritz

[57eldoking]

I'll check our Eldos tomorrow and let you know.

[Paul Tesone]

 Valts - keep up the good work & keep the photos coming . Do these pictures help you ?  Paul Tesone CLC #6876

[Valts]

Thanks Paul, but for me, it looks totally different (when talking about power steering pump bracket).
Are you sure you have the correct one?

[chris cunliffe]

I'd say that Paul has the correct bracket,I've just checked the pump on my 57 Seville and the bracket is identical to Pauls.

[57eldoking]

Both of our Eldos also have the bracket that's in Paul's photo.

[biarritz57]

Here is a link where you can get the parts you need. Friendly seller, and shipping is cheap if you can wait a few weeks for the parts.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1957-Cadillac-Power-Steering-Pump-OEM-Original-Used-Saginaw-/181288954943?pt=Vintage_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Make%3ACadillac%7CYear%3A1957&vxp=mtr&hash=item2a35a9ec3f

I am also restoring a 57 Biarritz, same color as Yours, copper. Difficult to get this Paint (here in Norway), so I had it scanned from my car. I can post the recipe if you need it.

I am impressed With Your work on the car

Frank

[Valts]

Thank you all guys, it seems I have the wrong bracket......
If anyone has the correct one, I`m opened to offers.

Frank, I would be really interested of that paint recipe/code.
We already lost our hopes on that and choosed one pretty similar Volvo color, a bit darker tought.
We didnt have any spot on the car that could be used for scanning

Painter will start mixing the coloor maybe ever next week, so if you have something, please hurry.

Thanks again,

I will post some more pics as we have progress.

Vallo

[biarritz57]

Here is the recipe.
I will advice you to try it before you decide to use it, but I believe its pretty Close. I will use it on my car.

Frank

[57eldoking]

Funny, I've also being trying to procure Copper Metallic for my Seville here in Norway the past few weeks. According to DuPont their code for Copper 2595LH is a paint that can only be mixed in their Lucite Lacquer which is not available anywhere in Europe.

I have spoken to a PPG vendor which was optimistic that they would be able to mix the Ditzler PPG code 21417 which is listed as the corresponding code for 1957 Copper 98.

[Paul Tesone]

 Vallo - looks like Frank provided you with a good lead . But just in case the pump assembly has already sold , here are two other contacts who seem to be parting out 57 Caddys : sslowhandtt@aol.com & Ebay # 271425238589 . Also found what might be a better picture than the two I previously sent .... Paul Tesone CLC #6876

[biarritz57]

Henning, can you please post when you get the answer about that PPG Paint.

Frank

[J Kjerrulf]

Great thread, inspiring!
My Seville was as so many other 98 copper cars resprayed with a coat of 1958 desert bronze a long long time ago. A poor job and they didn't even bother to sand her down. Good thing was that I located several areas of factory 98 in pretty good condition. In 2012 some pros (PPG vendors) analyzed the best exterior areas and reproduced a corresponding recipe while 2k acrylic were still around here in Sweden.
I have a few litres, will check the cans and hopefully return with details in time.

//Jan

[Valts]

I sent the paint recipe to the painter, but I`m not sure it helps, his a Spiec-Hecker guy and I really dont know if these systems and recipes mix with each other. We`ll see.

About that bracket, then today something came into my head, I had a feeling that I have seen the correct bracket somewhere. Called the owner and he came up with a box of misc old and rusty part that were in the trunk when the car arrived from US.
and....



Lucky us...
As the Eldorado does not have its original engine, (but still early type engine as original) then it seems that previous owner had collected all stuff from his garage that belonged to Eldo, but were not used after engine swap and other repairs.
We also found some fuel pumps, etc.
So this leads to the question, did Eldos had different power steering pump brackets than other 57? Or is the wrong one from another year/car?

[Walter Youshock]

Looks to be the right one but I'd have to compare it to mine.  All the '57's used the same PS bracket.

[Coupedeville]

That's the same as the one on my 57 CDV.

Joe Hunt

[Valts]

It has been some time....

I`m quite busy on my regular, bodywork right now but I`m trying to "steal" some days for Cadillac parts.
Water pump was on the way.
Picture takes before dissassembly, it seems like theres something wrong with heater outlets, instead of correct curved pipe that should come from the bacside of the pump and go to heater hose, theres some straight pipes and Y-joint and pieces of hose.



Does anybody have picture of the correct pipe or maybe pipe itself to sell it?

[Coupedeville]

Hello Valts,

I have just gone through the process of cleaning and painting my 57 CDV water pump.
Hope the attached pics help.

Joe

[David King (kz78hy)]

I believe what you have is correct.  The Eldorado Transmission had a cooler on it and was fed from the water pump.  That Y fitting is the one that goes back down to the transmission.   The 4 groove pulley tells me you have a A/C car.

David

[David King (kz78hy)]

Another photo.  My shots are to large to get them in one post.  This shows the pipe that lays in the valley, under the intake manifold.  The other hose connects to the Y fitting.

David

[Valts]

Thanks Joe and David, I also figured out that Y-fitting is correct but just one pipe is replaced with rubber hose and other pipes just "look wrong". I`ll try to find some better pipes from hardware stores and modify these to look right. 
Ordered water pump repair kit, as also power steering pump kit and some other stuff from US, should arrive next week.

Sorry,I dont have any pictures now, but I got many small parts blasted and primed in those days.

Does anybody have a clue where we could find correct and complete parade boot for 57 Biarritz?
There was one in ebay some weeks ago but the seller didnt answer my emails, i decided not to buy this one.

Thanks,
Vallo