Carl 61 Fleetwood Phyllis

[Clewisiii]

I will need the cluster bezel to balance off the gap from the column shroud to the center ashtray.

[Clewisiii]

Ok the painted bezels. I have ten different metallic paint samples.

Looking at my originals I swear there is a brown or bronze tint to the paint.
Now thru have discolored differently between the two. But I am looking at the darker edge on the chrome piece that was protected and hidden behind the outer bezel. I assume this is more true to the original color.

I tried taking pictures from different angles to show the metallic variation

I think the two closest is Gun metal or Metallic bronze. If I decide it is a brown bronze tint I think I will select that one. If I decide that is just nicotine stain that cannot come out I will select gun metal. But they do have a big variation depending on the angle you view it from.

[Clewisiii]

Close up with metallic dark bronze. There is such a difference between radio bezel and speedometer bezel that it could really go any way.

[Cadillac Jack 82]

I will need the cluster bezel to balance off the gap from the column shroud to the center ashtray.

Nice jukebox!

[David King (kz78hy)]

Carl,

I took some photos from the '63 master parts list which shows 1961 paint colors for the paint codes.  It also lists which parts get painted, very helpful.  I found a data tag at the beginning of the thread and it looks like your trim is 63, Windsor Blue Metallic.  At the top of the page, it lists the parts included in the color charts below.  Seems some of the I/P parts were painted Gloucester Gray L38A-009 and I wonder if those are the ones perplexing you.

After posting, I continued to search and found with the radio bezel, looks like it was released by the accessories group, radio, one part number shown, so not proliferated by paint colors.  Also the cluster housing shows one part number and no proliferation.  These 2 parts are not identified in the other trim groupings, so you might be back on your own to finding the closest match.

[David King (kz78hy)]

Close up with metallic dark bronze. There is such a difference between radio bezel and speedometer bezel that it could really go any way.

I think they are 2 different colors now and your match is close enough that no one could challenge it as being incorrect.  I have changed my mind after looking at various online photos and believe the radio bezel is dominate since it is the largest exposed surface and If it were me, I would match the speedo bezel using the same paint.

[David King (kz78hy)]

I asked Rick to have  a look at his unrestored 61 Fleetwood and he said he would.  Also he said he as access to another unrestored 61 and was going to get photos of both.  He thought they were chrome, but we should have some reference points in few days to help this mystery.

[Clewisiii]

Ok I bought from Jessers a "Vintage 60s Cadillac gold plated Keychain"

This is just a plated cut off key blanks.

[Clewisiii]

This weekend I will change out the Cam breakin oil with what will be in it until the rest of the breakin is done. I have been warned to mostly ignore what the initial oil looks like after the first 30 minute run.

[Clewisiii]

There are a few things that I still need to find. Specifically the Fleetwood fender emblems, or the door pull red lense.

But in general I am confident I now have, or know where I can get, everything else I need to finish my car.

That feels very good to be in that position.

[The Tassie Devil(le)]

This is just a plated cut off key blanks. 

Doesn't look like a very good cutting of the key.

Bruce.

[The Tassie Devil(le)]

This weekend I will change out the Cam breakin oil with what will be in it until the rest of the breakin is done. I have been warned to mostly ignore what the initial oil looks like after the first 30 minute run.   

I would be retaining the Break-in oil until the first oil change, at say 500 Miles.

All Break-in oil is is Straight 30 weight, with no Friction Modifier, and is ideal for bedding in the Piston Rings as well as the Cam Lobes and Lifters.   One definitely does not want any Friction Modifiers, as the friction with regards the Rings to Cylinder Wall action is extremely important.   Rings NEED the friction to bed in.   Nothing worse than glazing up the bores, as this leads to oil consumption and loss of performance.

I believe that 100% Synthetic is not ideal for the basic bedding-in of engines, especially rebuilt ones as the Quality Control of the rebuilding process is not as good as original construction, where each and every part is constantly machined/built with the closest tolerances that mass-production can deliver.

Bruce.

[Clewisiii]

Looking at the dash wire harness parts that do not come as part of Lectric Limiteds dash harness. That is trunk release and lights that have connectors.

I will need to decide if I will just clean up these or buy parts and make new.


Plus cleaning the dash light lense covers.

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[Clewisiii]

There are 28 stamped metal locking tabs across these window switches.
Caddy Daddy does sell these for $10 a piece. So with shipping that would be $300 for a very hidden part. But if they are bent and loose I risk electrical problems.


I will have the frames chromed. Maybe $50 a piece.  All I can do is clean and polish the switches. Caddy daddy wants $100 for a button. Hopefully the contact base is good.

[Clewisiii]

Yes Fusick has them cheaper

[David Greenburg]

I have an original unrestored'61 Fleetwood that I can check on Thursday if you're still concerned about the dash sections.

[Clewisiii]

I looked at my parts car and that one has no bronze tint at all.  But it also had a texture to it that is highly suspect.

[Clewisiii]

Just tinkering today, and thinking more about chrome.

My original washer nozzles and escustions were horribly pitted. I was very worried about costs to restore these terrible parts

I managed to find a nicer set on eBay a while ago. Plus a new set of nozzles. These will be much easier to rechromed without the pits.

[Clewisiii]

I dropped off my rear end gear at Warren Gear and Axle today. Hard shop to get into. One narrow driveway between two other businesses with no sign at the road. I will hopefully hear next week if there is any issue. But I do not anticipate anything.

[Clewisiii]

Next week I am going to order a stainless steel brake line kit for my car.

I am ordering from Inland tube. They are make to order so I might not get them till the New Year.

I am using a duel master from a 62 on my car. So I am ordering the line set from 62.