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Title: Grinding Noise From Rear of Car When Turning
Post by: Bentley on October 24, 2014, 01:21:14 PM
Hello Everyone,

I have a '68 DeVille and lately I've noticed a grinding noise coming from the rear of the car when turning a corner. It only happens when I turn right, and it's more pronounced when turning and going up an incline, such as pulling into a driveway. Does anyone have any idea what could be causing this? Thanks.


Wes
Title: Re: Grinding Noise From Rear of Car When Turning
Post by: Dave Shepherd on October 24, 2014, 02:03:56 PM
Tough to diagnose noises remotely, barring something like the exhaust hitting the body or more likely the driveshaft, could be an axle beaing.
Title: Re: Grinding Noise From Rear of Car When Turning
Post by: mgbeda on October 24, 2014, 02:30:30 PM
Could be the drum brakes.  When turning the side load moves the wheels very slightly and could cause parts not usually in contact to grind.  Also could be differential gears, driveshaft bumping something, exhaust bumping something, etc.

-mB
Title: Re: Grinding Noise From Rear of Car When Turning
Post by: Steve Passmore on October 24, 2014, 02:50:50 PM
Like Dave I'd go with axle bearings.
Title: Re: Grinding Noise From Rear of Car When Turning
Post by: Fred Pennington 25635 on October 24, 2014, 03:06:40 PM
If you have a limited slip also called posi-trac differential you must add a friction modifier to the oil to keep it from making noise.
The additive loses it's effectiveness over time.  If you have this type of rear end, change the oil and replace the additive.
DON"T let the fast lube places change the oil. They will tell you they have oil that either has the additive in it or doesn't need it, BS.
Good parts stores carry it, even Autozone. About 4 oz will do it.
Title: Re: Grinding Noise From Rear of Car When Turning
Post by: harry s on October 24, 2014, 03:14:33 PM
I'd pull the other brake drum just to be sure it is not telegraphing to the other side. If no luck there could be the diff.    Harry
Title: Re: Grinding Noise From Rear of Car When Turning
Post by: Jay Friedman on October 24, 2014, 03:56:40 PM
I agree with S Passmore that it could very likely be a rear axle bearing. 
Title: Re: Grinding Noise From Rear of Car When Turning
Post by: Scot Minesinger on October 24, 2014, 05:51:21 PM
Mileage might be helpful and history too.  If you do not have "controlled differential" (limited slip/posi and etc.) then we can rule that out, but if you do it is something to strongly consider.  I think if you have this option their is a sticker in the trunk explaining it, certainly VIN would let you know.
Title: Re: Grinding Noise From Rear of Car When Turning
Post by: Dave Shepherd on October 24, 2014, 06:13:24 PM
I do not think the vin shows what type of diff you have.
Title: Re: Grinding Noise From Rear of Car When Turning
Post by: Mike Josephic CLC #3877 on October 24, 2014, 06:55:58 PM
When a posi-traction differential was put on the car, didn't they have a metal
tag on the "pumpkin" that stated so?  I remember GM did that on Chevy's so
I expect Caddy would have also.

Mike
Title: Re: Grinding Noise From Rear of Car When Turning
Post by: 35-709 on October 24, 2014, 07:06:07 PM
For 1973 there will be a "G" in front of the ratio code stamped on the front of the differential if it has a controlled differential.  We might be able to assume it is the same for a '68, it is in the shop manual.

If it DOES have a controlled differential, I am with Fred Pennington.
Title: Re: Grinding Noise From Rear of Car When Turning
Post by: Dave Shepherd on October 24, 2014, 07:56:24 PM
If you can jack up the rear turn one wheel forward the other wheel will also go forward if controlled diff is in place.
Title: Re: Grinding Noise From Rear of Car When Turning
Post by: The Tassie Devil(le) on October 24, 2014, 08:00:24 PM
One way of checking for a bad axle race is to drive turning left then right, and loading up the suspect bearing.

Most every time, the bad bearing will be the one that is under the most load.

Bruce. >:D
Title: Re: Grinding Noise From Rear of Car When Turning
Post by: Bentley on October 28, 2014, 05:40:13 PM
I'll check if I have a controlled differential, and then change the oil. I haven't done that since I've owned the car, which has been 14 years now. So it's probably a good idea anyway. Do the 68's have a differential gasket, or do you just use the Permetex stuff?


Thanks,

Wes
Title: Re: Grinding Noise From Rear of Car When Turning
Post by: Scot Minesinger on October 28, 2014, 08:06:07 PM
You will need a special oil if it is a posi, so find out first.  Easy way to tell jack up rear of car (both wheels).
Title: Re: Grinding Noise From Rear of Car When Turning
Post by: cadman56 on November 10, 2014, 10:52:40 PM
The oil fill plug on a 68 will have a special tag indicating it is a controlled differential.  The ratio code will also have a 'G' in front of the number.  If it is a controlled differential make sure to get the special additive.  I have 4 68s & 3 are the controlled differential marked as I mention.  The shop manual verifies the information.  Larry