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Do we really need E15

Started by Don Boshara #594, May 27, 2009, 08:58:17 PM

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STDog

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I don't buy the UN hype,as their definition of "undernourished" is highly suspect (give their track record).
If those numbers are correct, that's 15% of the worlds population.

Then later they claim 1 in 6 (16.7%) don't have access to adequate food. That would be 1.08 billion, not 973 million.
So, they cannot even keep the numbers straight in one article.

But, if correct the solution isn't donations and food drives, as that has not worked over the last 30+ years. Name one country that a food donation program has gotten out of poverty or even learned to feed itself. The programs make things worse by keeping the corrupt governments in power.

How many of those people live where the governments restrict importing or heavily tax imports (artificially increasing cost)?
How many are war torn populations where fields are regularly destroyed by the waring factions? Or crops cannot be brought to market becausel of attacks and theft by those factions?


Even the article you linked mentions bio-fuels as a factor in increase "hunger" and increased prices.


Derek Sherwood

Quote from: STDog on June 02, 2009, 12:49:00 AM
But, if correct the solution isn't donations and food drives, as that has not worked over the last 30+ years. Name one country that a food donation program has gotten out of poverty or even learned to feed itself. The programs make things worse by keeping the corrupt governments in power.

How many of those people live where the governments restrict importing or heavily tax imports (artificially increasing cost)?
How many are war torn populations where fields are regularly destroyed by the waring factions? Or crops cannot be brought to market befall of attacks and theft by those factions?

Classic example:  Zimbabwe.  Was there last July.  What a mess.

Used to be a net EXPORTER of corn and other grains.  Till Mugabe took control and systematically "redistributed" farms from white farmers, to "war vets" who do nothing but smoke pot, drink, and carouse all day.

The country is starving now, inflation is rampant, etc.  There are less than 100 white farmers left in the whole country.  The farms which used to produce enough for the country and a healthy surplus, are now stripped, burned, the livestock and wild animals killed off, the irrigation equipment parted for scrap, and turned into little ghettos with mud huts.

Sad, really.  A 12-ounce glass bottle of coke cost $100,000,000,000 $Z in July last year, or a little over 1 US dollar, but no one had change in the BILLIONS available, so I gave them two bucks.