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1975 Eldo conv top motor just clicks

Started by macdaddylong, July 14, 2018, 06:16:31 PM

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macdaddylong

Beautiful day in the neighborhood so naturally I decide to go for a ride with the top down ...
Unfortunately when I hit the top down button I just get a click noise ...
Any suggestions on where to start trouble shooting ?
Thanks in advance
Wp
1949 Harley flathead
1967 r60 Bmw
1981 Vespa
1975 eldorado
1985 ram charger
1963 xke Jaguar

cadillactim

Make sure you have battery voltage to the large wire going to the relay. If so, probably bad relay if it just clicks in up and down positions. If no voltage at large wire trace that back.

Tim
Tim Groves

macdaddylong

Thanks tim
Where is the relay ? Behind the back seat ?
1949 Harley flathead
1967 r60 Bmw
1981 Vespa
1975 eldorado
1985 ram charger
1963 xke Jaguar

cadillactim

Near the motor. The relay activates the motor, the switch activates the relay.

Tim
Tim Groves

spolij

Tim 66 deville. Do i have a relay? didn't see anything by the motor. Made a post about my system. Driving me nuts.

cadillactim

John

No, the 66 does not have a relay. What is the problem?

Tim
Tim Groves

macdaddylong

Thanks again tim
what type of relay will I need to replace the failed one ?
1949 Harley flathead
1967 r60 Bmw
1981 Vespa
1975 eldorado
1985 ram charger
1963 xke Jaguar

chrisntam

Convertible top specialists or Hydro e lectric  have them.

http://www.topsdown.com/New-top-motor-control-relay-p4.html

or

http://www.hydroe.com/product_detail.html?id=8135&parts%3DCadillac%20Eldorado%20Convertible%201975%20%2D%20Convertible%20Top%20Relay

Suggest you call and speak to them so they can help you troubleshoot what the problem is.  I'd hate for you to spend $50 or $60 and not have that correct the problem.

chris.
1970 Deville Convertible 
Dallas, Texas

cadillactim

The power seat relay is the same relay (only mounting bracket is different). You can verify that is the issue by using your seat relay.

Also, since you hear the click, the relay is energizing. So you may just need to remove the relay cover and file the contacts clean.

Tim
Tim Groves

TJ Hopland

Do these relays overheat and distort like the blower ones do?  Or is the issue with these just corrosion? 

73 Eldo convert w/FiTech EFI, over 30 years of ownership and counting
Somewhat recently deceased daily drivers, 80 Eldo Diesel & 90 CDV
And other assorted stuff I keep buying for some reason

cadillactim

All the ones I have worked on were mainly corrosion issues. On a few I have seen the black base warped enough to not allow the contacts to touch properly.

Tim
Tim Groves

Steve Lomas

Quote from: macdaddylong on July 14, 2018, 06:16:31 PM
Beautiful day in the neighborhood so naturally I decide to go for a ride with the top down ...
Unfortunately when I hit the top down button I just get a click noise ...
Any suggestions on where to start trouble shooting ?
Thanks in advance
Wp

I had this problem on a 75 & 76 Eldorado when I acquired them.- just a single click and nothing. In both cases it was the relay, under the motor behind the back seat.  the contact points in it were still okay- it was a connections to the relay which had burned out. 

I think the best thing is to beef up/ re-solder the connections rather than replace-   to cope with the >40 year old scissor top with worn parts.. otherwise it will burn out again

macdaddylong

Thank you guys for all the help with this issue . Finally got the torque out and pulled the rear seat belts which released the back seat .. tightened up the ground wire and guess what ? Top went up and down like a charm.
Love a happy and easy ending
Thanks again for all advice
WP
1949 Harley flathead
1967 r60 Bmw
1981 Vespa
1975 eldorado
1985 ram charger
1963 xke Jaguar