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1963 CDV questions

Started by jwwseville60, February 03, 2022, 11:57:49 AM

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jwwseville60

There is a pretty nice 63 CDV for sale here.
My question is this:
Why is the engine painted black with only 48.5K miles?
Is this a replacement engine?
Was it painted for corrosion reasons?
To me its a red flag, so I think this might be a high mileage car.
Is that interior cloth correct?

They painted the exhaust chassis black too.
I called the idiot salesman...all he said was this car was a "survivor."

https://kinionauto.com/vdp/18006732/Used-1963-Cadillac-DeVille-Sedan-for-sale-in-Clarence-IA-52216

1960 Eldorado Seville, Copper, "IKE"
1961 CDV, gold, "Goldfinger"
1964 Eldorado, Turquoise, "Billy the Squid"
1963 De Ville Station Wagon Vista roof, silver blue, "Race Bannon"
1963 Fleetwood 60S, turquoise, "The Miami Special"
1959 Sedan Deville flat top, tan, "Jupiter-2"
1947 Caddy Sedanette 62, black, "Johnny Cash"
1970 ASC Fleetwood wagon, dark blue, "Iron Maiden"
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Eric DeVirgilis CLC# 8621

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Personally I wouldn't have inquired any further once I saw the rattle can hack job under the hood and the air cleaner snorkel pointing the wrong direction. Undercoating looks like it was blown on yesterday. Upholstery material is wrong.

I'd also want to know what happened to the "deVille" portion of the right rear quarter script. The firewall is body color on early production 1963. I'm sure it too was buzzed over regardless of how it left the factory.

A Cadillac Motorcar is a Possession for which there is no Acceptable Substitute

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Tim

CLC Member #30850

1959 Cadillac CDV "Shelley"
1964 Cadillac SDV "Rosalie"
1966 Oldsmobile Toronado "Sienna"

Past Cars

1937 LaSalle Cpe
1940 Chevrolet Cpe
1941 Ford 11Y
1954 Buick 48D
1955 Cadillac CDV
1955 Packard Clipper
1957 Cadillac Series 62
1962 VW Bug
1962 Dodge 880
1966 Mercury Montclair
1967 Buick Wildcat Convertible
1968 Chevy Chevelle SS
1968 Plymouth Barracuda
1977 Lincoln MKV

Jim Miller

I saw this listing also. At first glance, looks very nice. But how did it look before the shiny paint job. Then I saw the undercarriage and wondered what was hiding under the spray. I looked at a local 1958 sedan a few years ago. Paint was nice and needed some interior work. I opened the hood and the entire engine compartment, I mean everything, plus the undercarriage was sprayed thick with fresh undercoating. I politely closed the hood and told them I had to think about it. Having owned several vintage wooden boats, I have found that unless you know who did the work, if it's too clean, beware.
Jim Miller

1941 6219
1949 6237X
1970 CDV
2021 XT6
Past:
1991 SDV
1999 DeElegence
2006 DTS
2013 XTS
2016 SRX

71 Fleetwood

You know, I love the responses from experienced eyes and bloody knuckles!  You guys have probably saved a lot of wise shoppers from heartbreak.  These cars look so pretty under the lights that we get dazzled.  Thank you for your service.
1971 Fleetwood Sixty Special Brougham

jwwseville60

Yeah, and the sales guy said there was already a deposit, which is a quick sale tactic.
....no thanks
1960 Eldorado Seville, Copper, "IKE"
1961 CDV, gold, "Goldfinger"
1964 Eldorado, Turquoise, "Billy the Squid"
1963 De Ville Station Wagon Vista roof, silver blue, "Race Bannon"
1963 Fleetwood 60S, turquoise, "The Miami Special"
1959 Sedan Deville flat top, tan, "Jupiter-2"
1947 Caddy Sedanette 62, black, "Johnny Cash"
1970 ASC Fleetwood wagon, dark blue, "Iron Maiden"
Lifetime CLC

The Tassie Devil(le)

Quote from: jwwseville60 on February 03, 2022, 11:57:49 AM
There is a pretty nice 63 CDV for sale here.
My question is this:
Why is the engine painted black with only 48.5K miles?
Is this a replacement engine?
Was it painted for corrosion reasons?
To me its a red flag, so I think this might be a high mileage car.
Is that interior cloth correct?

They painted the exhaust chassis black too.
I called the idiot salesman...all he said was this car was a "survivor." 
No good asking those questions on this Forum as all any of us could do was simply speculate.

If I was wanting this car, I would be contacting the previous owner and asking him, or her.

Bruce. >:D
'72 Eldorado Convertible (LHD)
'70 Ranchero Squire (RHD)
'74 Chris Craft Gull Wing (SH)
'02 VX Series II Holden Commodore SS Sedan
(Past President Modified Chapter)

Past Cars of significance - to me
1935 Ford 3 Window Coupe
1936 Ford 5 Window Coupe
1937 Chevrolet Sports Coupe
1955 Chevrolet Convertible
1959 Ford Fairlane Ranch Wagon
1960 Cadillac CDV
1972 Cadillac Eldorado Coupe

Jim Miller

Bruce is correct. If you can locate the prior owner(s) talk with them. I met and talked with owners of both of my cars. They were long time CLC members and knew how to take care of their cars, so I was quite comfortable with the purchases.
Jim Miller

1941 6219
1949 6237X
1970 CDV
2021 XT6
Past:
1991 SDV
1999 DeElegence
2006 DTS
2013 XTS
2016 SRX

Eric DeVirgilis CLC# 8621

If the car is being offered by a dealer or consignment outfit which I suspect the case here, good luck getting them to furnish the name of the owner.
A Cadillac Motorcar is a Possession for which there is no Acceptable Substitute