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Title: 1957 Eureka Hearse New pictures
Post by: 60eldo on August 13, 2016, 11:24:40 AM
   I just bought a 1957 eureaka hearse site unseen but I did see a pic. Hope I didnt F,,,up but I always wanted one and it just came up and I didnt want to get beat to see it as its about 3 hrs away, Anyone know anything about these. Its really neat and I paid 1200 for it. Wish me luck
Title: Re: I just bought a Hearse
Post by: Richardonly on August 13, 2016, 11:57:44 AM
Good luck and would love to see some photos!!! 

57-58 are the greatest.
Title: Re: I just bought a Hearse
Post by: Lexi on August 13, 2016, 02:41:04 PM
Love it! Short of seeing some pics it sounds like a deal! Always wanted a '50s Cadillac Hearse. Check out the Professional Car Society for info and perhaps Hearse specific help. Clay/Lexi
Title: Re: I just bought a Hearse
Post by: 60eldo on August 13, 2016, 09:05:19 PM
   Ok so I went to see her and its a piece of art I think. A little rough but nice. Where do I go to get more info on these cars and who sells parts. By the way is today the 13th ?????  mmmmm
Title: Re: I just bought a Hearse
Post by: m-mman on August 14, 2016, 01:16:29 AM
Show us some pictures and tell us more about it.

To answer your question about parts . . . Sadly they just dont exist.

The mechanical parts are all regular Cad so they are no problem, however the TRIM is not. Not only is the trim non-Cadillac, but in 1957 Eureka, Superior, Miller-Meteor (the major coach builders) all had their own trim. And it doesnt interchange!! Basically everything on one of these cars is made from 'Unobtainum'. 

Finding parts from other cars? for any given year Cad made between 1000 - 2000 commercial chassis that they distributed between all the coach builders. I would have to check the exact number, but 300 Eurekas or less for 1957 would be about correct. How many exist today for parts or restored? Maybe 10-20?

Completeness is EVERYTHING on these cars. Tell us more.
Title: Re: I just bought a Hearse
Post by: jaxops on August 14, 2016, 08:11:53 AM
Congratulations.  We had a 1958 hearse at our funeral home. Ours had a red velvet interior.   Very striking and solid cars.  As stated earlier, parts are not a problem from the front clip forward,(engine, hood) as well as tires, wheels, brakes, exhaust.  Everything else is pretty custom or special for hearses and ambulances. Both use the same rear cargo setup so some body parts may cross over.  Both are hard to find for Cadillacs but they are out there.  If the rollers are present, and the cargo area is all intact, you might just need to do interior work.  Fixed rollers were standard for rear-loading hearses.  A moving "tray" indicates a side-loader but these weren't too common for most funeral homes then.  There will be side rear doors to access your spare tire and tools, and assist in loading the casket and flowers.  The side doors should have a mount to screw in a chrome nameplate for the funeral director or funeral home name.  If you get tires, ensure to get commercial heavy duty tires.  You have a lot of weight unloaded on those rear wheels.  Also heavy duty shocks.  These may be air leveling so take a look at those.

Let us know how you make out!
Title: Re: I just bought a Hearse
Post by: 60eldo on August 14, 2016, 10:44:29 AM
    This is only pic I have now, Im picking up this week. Rollers are missing and chrome rear finns that I can see. Its been in this garage for about 10 yrs pretty solid, he says engine should start, master is missing we will see.  All glass is perfect, by the way since I told my friends and family that I bought a hearse they have dishoned me and say they will not come to my house anymore,,,WOW,,,Im excited
Title: Re: I just bought a Hearse
Post by: James Landi on August 14, 2016, 03:16:31 PM
An exciting find... ask on this site about getting the old girl started and running... you can do a good deal of damage by trying to "short cut" the recommissioning process.  Old gas, old tranny oil, old acidy coolant nd engine oil, contaminated brake fluid... you name it, drain it, flush it--- until clean-- don't damage your mechanical because you're in a hurry to go for a ride!  Half the fun is journey.  James
Title: Re: I just bought a Hearse
Post by: m-mman on August 16, 2016, 01:17:02 AM
Just from looking at the picture I see that the Landau bar(s) are missing. (the S shaped things that should be on the roof)

Hopefully they are inside!! As an FYI those are Eureka ONLY.  (Eureka used a fish tail end on their landau bars)

Hopefully you are going to be picking it up personally.
When you do, SEARCH THE BARN!! Look in every nook & cranny for parts that might have been removed and stashed or put on a shelf.  Ask about any parts that might have been taken inside. Ask where the car might have been stored before and see if you can go to that location and search for anything that might have been removed years ago and set aside at that location.

It cannot be stressed enough how scarce the hearse parts are!
If anything is missing get them while you are there.

As for your family tell them that despite what they might hear on TV, no hearse collector has ever found one that is haunted.  ;D
Title: Re: I just bought a Hearse
Post by: Lexi on August 16, 2016, 09:56:23 PM
Oddly, I have run across a hearse that was haunted, for real. No kidding. I do agree with the advice to search the storage area for those Landau Irons and anything else that may be related to the car. Have a good chat with the family/owners and get it's history. You may even get a clue as to where those irons and perhaps other parts may be. Ask to see any old photos and if available, & see if they were on the car then. Re-read J. Crabtree's comments several times as he is spot on. Clay/Lexi
Title: Re: I just bought a Hearse
Post by: 60eldo on August 16, 2016, 10:10:19 PM
   Shes coming Friday so I will get a better look. Ive been doing alot of searching on the net but theres very little info on these cars. I just came across a guy 2 hrs from me that has 8,,, 1957 cads for parts so thats good, but he has no hearse stuff. This is going to be a long slow process I think but Im really enjoying the challenge. I will post more pics Friday. Im hoping that someone here who owns a 57 eureka sees this and replys saying he has some extra parts to sell.
Title: Re: I just bought a 1957 Eureka Hearse
Post by: Lexi on August 16, 2016, 11:08:43 PM
I am excited for you. Do keep us posted and with plenty of pics. I know some PCS members and will ask around for you. Remember the Hearse collector's motto: "Don't let your first ride in a Hearse be your last"! Clay/Lexi
Title: Re: I just bought a 1957 Eureka Hearse
Post by: Jeff Wilk on August 17, 2016, 03:58:47 AM
One option we can all consider for truly rare parts is 3D Scanning and Printing. Another car club gent recently did this by finding someones else with the same car who was also willing to lend the part for scanning (while chaperoning his part personally). The part was scanned, a 3d plastic part was made, and that plastic part then used as for making a mold for a new recast if the same piece which was then chromed. No NOT cheap....but at least available IF you can find someone willing to lend a hand. The PCS would be a great source for that.

Jeff
Title: Re: I just bought a 1957 Eureka Hearse
Post by: Jeff Wilk on August 17, 2016, 06:46:00 AM
John, check this out. This week is their International meet in MD.   LOTS of sources/leads I'm sure.

https://www.facebook.com/PCSGettysburg2016/ (https://www.facebook.com/PCSGettysburg2016/)
Title: Re: I just bought a 1957 Eureka Hearse
Post by: Gene Beaird on August 17, 2016, 10:10:00 AM
Johnny, That's so cool!  Nice find!  I wish you great luck with it's restoration.

Can't wait to see more pictures. 
Title: Re: I just bought a 1957 Eureka Hearse
Post by: 60eldo on August 19, 2016, 10:43:43 AM
  Is this a barn find, heres pics finally. Picked her up last night at mid night. By the way thats not me, its the guy I got it from hahaha
Title: Re: 1957 Eureka Hearse New pictures
Post by: 60eldo on August 20, 2016, 09:21:37 AM
  Shes home now heres some more pics. I found the data plate while vacunming under 1 inch of mouse crap,,,nnnniiiicccceeee,,,it says its car  307   whatever that means. Anyway shes not siezed motor turning over nice. I will try to start her later on. Battery was dead so I have 3 that are good and none will fit in the 6 in. space cadillac provided. What were they thinking back then. Huge car and you hafta find a skinny battery to fit.  I will change the oil and see what happens. Anyone know where I can get a master cyl? Its missing.
Title: Re: 1957 Eureka Hearse New pictures
Post by: chrisntam on August 20, 2016, 09:34:48 AM
...........And the adventure begins.................

Looks great! I'd say you got a bargain.

chris.
Title: Re: 1957 Eureka Hearse New pictures
Post by: James Landi on August 22, 2016, 04:34:39 PM
DOn't try to pump stale gas through the carb! 
Title: Re: 1957 Eureka Hearse New pictures
Post by: 60eldo on August 22, 2016, 08:41:08 PM
 ::) OH  OH,,,I did,,,I got it running
Title: Re: 1957 Eureka Hearse New pictures
Post by: Gene Beaird on August 22, 2016, 10:13:47 PM
So it was pre-ethanol gas then?   ;)

Good job, sir! 
Title: Re: 1957 Eureka Hearse New pictures
Post by: Jeff Wilk on August 22, 2016, 11:03:50 PM
Way to go John!!!!  Nothing like using.....ahem......expired gas to start a Hearse!!!!!!!!!! ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: 1957 Eureka Hearse New pictures
Post by: 60eldo on August 22, 2016, 11:16:03 PM
  OK,,,Im not joking OK,,,I changed the oil and Ive done this for 35 yrs,,,,It came out like trans fluid,,,red,,,, also and you cant make this stuff up look at the tripometer 666???????????
Title: Re: 1957 Eureka Hearse New pictures
Post by: James Landi on August 25, 2016, 10:06:22 PM
Only God knows what the kind of chemical the engine oil has evolved into over time.  We have heard horror stories ( decades long parked Cadillacs) from members where oils and coolants turning into metal eating acids.. seriously-- change all fluids and flush the fuel system---