1970s Goodbye & thanks.

[Seville Life]

I'm just saying goodbye and thanks for a lot of fun and advice, I hope I've been able to help some of you?

I can't use the forum any longer unless I join the CLC. I don't wish to do so, doubly by being pushed into joining.

I don't understand why those that run the Club have done this?

Best to all. Paul

[Clewisiii]

I have been trying to avoid saying anything about it. Since I have been apart of several forums that have ended I do not take it personally. And the last were free to me.

I am a paying member here and once I became a paying member my expectations for customer service is different from when it was free.

But this approach to me is to much like a decision someone from Jersey would make.

Your not in the union your out.
That picture isn't a Cadillac. That is not our union your out.

"I have a problem"
Doesn't matter the union has decided for you.

[SaltLife97]

I agree my friend. It has been a privilege serving with you people. But fortunately I have nearly completed my restoration of my Caddy after much help from this forum so alas I shall not be needing its help no longer anyway. But as a 27 year old I was so hoping to share my newfound wisdom and experience if anyone needed it. For free. Anyway, cheerio...  

[TJ Hopland]

I am a paying member here and once I became a paying member my expectations for customer service is different from when it was free

Yup.  Me too.  How many others? 

["Cadillac Kid" Greg Surfas 15364]

IMHO this change will probably accelerate the decline in membership, given newbies will no longer have a gateway for discussion and information about their Cadillac issues
Greg Surfas

[MultipleCaddies]

The question is, for those who stand to gain from what they think will be some additional income from new memberships: Is that small amount of additional money you will get worth the decline of the forum? That WILL be the end result. For every person who speaks up and says they will leave, there are many others who will do so quietly or will never even register in the first place.

This is incredibly short-sighted and backwards thinking, whoever came up with this scheme.

[David King (kz78hy)]

This thread should be moved to the general area.  Nothing to fix here other than club policy and plenty of opinions regarding that flowing at the moment.

[kyle242gt]

Opportune place to say my goodbyes as well. Didn't help that I've got kind of an orphan (late sixties doesn't get the same love), and it's a hacked-up lowrider project. 

Thanks to those who have helped me, and a tip of the hat to the people I've helped.  Happy motoring!

[marty55cdv]

Its 25.00 a YEAR not a month.  Two people can't eat at Mcdonalds one time for that.   

[35-709]

I'm not happy with this decision either, I think it is a mistake too.  But --- $25.00 a year --- less than $2.10 a month to support this club which has given many/most/all of us so much information, knowledge, guidance and camaraderie?   

[60eldo]

 You guys who dont want to 25 bucks a year. Are you kidding me? I wood gladly pay 200.00 a year for the help and knowledge they have given me. Ostigese,,,,  thats Polish for   YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOUR SELF. Go eat a chiken leg,,,,,,BYEEEEE

[Carfreak]

You guys who dont want to 25 bucks a year.

And with the Exchange Rate US$25 is something like $200 Canadian these days. 

Just kidding. I have a lot of Polish and Canadian relatives & friends. 

[MultipleCaddies]

Its 25.00 a YEAR not a month.  Two people can't eat at Mcdonalds one time for that.   

Doesn't matter if it was $25 for a lifetime membership. The people making comparisons to McDonald's meals and other nonsense are all willfully missing the point.

[MultipleCaddies]

You guys who dont want to 25 bucks a year. Are you kidding me? I wood gladly pay 200.00 a year for the help and knowledge they have given me. Ostigese,,,,  thats Polish for   YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOUR SELF. Go eat a chiken leg,,,,,,BYEEEEE

It is this kind if entitled attitude that drives forums into the ground. EXPECTING people to contribute when that is not how it's done anywhere else is a mistake and will drive people away. Doesn't matter whether or not you're willing to contribute, it only matters if the masses are, and the people of the internet have proven time and time again that they are not when it comes to posting on forums. Like it or not, that IS the way it is.

[David Greenburg]

I've been a member for many years. long before the forum existed. I joined in my mid-twenties, close to 40 years ago (yikes), and I always felt like it was a good value, even back then, when dues were $25 IIRC for a membership, including mailed Self-Starter. That makes it a screaming deal now in comparison to the inflated cost of everything else, including our cars.

But I certainly see the benefit of having the forum open to non-members, both as a way to get new members/increase interest, and also to get the benefit of cars and parts for sale by non-members. Over the years I have bought and sold a bunch of parts, and also bought a car off the forum, although the majority of those transactions, including the car, were with fellow members.

I think one issue is that many of the "powers that be" in the Club are not on the forum as far as I can tell, and may not fully appreciate it. Hopefully that will change as some of the new "forum-friendly" board members come in.

[druby]

A huge mistake by the club for not allowing non members post and give advice and their knowledge concerning Cadillac's & LaSalle's !!!!! Who brought this idea before the board to vote on, who was the person that got the ball rolling on this idea ? Somebody put this idea in front of the board to vote on !!!!! I know, it's a "secret society" and we choose not to disclose that information.

[druby]

Jason Edge, VP CLC
 I'm asking you as a board member and me as a Director of a region who put the item of "not allowing non-members to post on the forum" in front of the board to vote on, and we're ALL board members in favor of this idea ?

[Carfreak]

and we're ALL board members in favor of this idea ?

I don't know who put the idea on the Winter Board Meeting Agenda but to the best of my recollection YES the decision was pretty much unanimous in favor to make the change.

Dan, I'm telling you again, if you want to help make decisions, join the Board. I can't be the only one riling them up all the time.

[Jay Friedman]

I'm just curious.  Can anyone tell me why the people who are leaving the forum are so against the idea of joining the CLC.  It's not expensive; certainly not compared to the cost of restoring and maintaining a vintage car. 

[druby]

Sue, if you attended the meeting I'm sure you know the answers, somebody has the unredacted minutes from the Winter board meeting.