Wheres The Ark?

[MultipleCaddies]

Guess what. A lot of us have many cars, have been working on cars for several decades, can contribute a lot of knowledge, experience, tech advice, opinions, assistance, suggestions and humor but we are also paying dues to support OUR CLUB and the expenses of this Forum.

Off the top of my head, I couldn't tell you how many Cadillacs I currently own, would have to stop and count.  Wouldn't even try to remember most of them from over the last 40+ years nor the number of other GM and non-GM vehicles in that quotient either. Does that make me better than anyone else?  NOPE. Nor does you throwing out claims of your prowess and intelligence make you any better than us either -- it just makes you an egotistical self-proclaimed expert. 

You just want to twist the facts to support YOUR CLAIMS to suit your side of the argument.

Interesting how you allege poor management, bad administration and throw out almost-slanderous comments towards a group and a Board that you have no knowledge, no connection, no personal experience other than you have posted on OUR Forum.  Anyone who tries to tell me how great they are, how smart they are, their opinions are better than everyone else -  I usually stop listening.

The Forum will survive just fine. 

That's fine. Just like the ever-arrogant J. Bruce Ismay found out after the Titanic hit the iceberg, the ship was in fact sinkable, despite his protestations to the contrary. Captain EJ Smith at one time said he couldn't imagine a ship like the Titanic sinking, declaring something to the effect of "modern shipbuilding has gone beyond that". These men and many others believed the ship couldn't sink, and let their arrogance get in the way of prudence and logic. You see where I'm going with this? Blah blah blah blah blah.........

[MultipleCaddies]

I know that I have this effect on certain people. It's almost always the folks who are utterly incapable of seeing any perspective other than their own, and take personal offense to anyone challenging them on anything. My perspective is well-founded, based on huge amounts of precedent seen all over the internet. Very very easy for anyone who wants to do their research to confirm. It's not my opinion, it's established fact. I would encourage anyone to try to prove me wrong. The humongous majority of internet forums simply don't work this way. Some folks simply cannot handle someone presenting facts that differ from their mindset. Well I couldn't care less about whether or not that offends the old guard - what needs to be said, needs to be said. I've long had great disdain for people who choose not to rock the boat in favor of keeping people's delicate feelings intact, even when things are obviously going wrong. This is one of those occasions where something simply has to be said.

[skinny_tom]

How many ads are the non-paying forum users willing to tolerate? They should be shown that many -1. The dues paying members should see zero.

That's the model that works. Everyone pays, it's just that the revenue comes from a different source when they don't join.

This is a proven model from other forums as well as all the apps on our phones. I get to try the app "for free" but with ads. When I realize the value of it, or get tired of the ads, I buy it. Or I realize it's of no value, I'm not out any money, and I'm gone.

I'm not convinced that closing out non-paying people is a good plan. I would not have joined had I not been able to experience the value of the content here. But I'm also an anomaly in that I'll pay/join for the sake of direct support for a place like this... but I have to have the chance to see the value first.

Now, if it's a matter of blocking out the bots and scammers, then that's a different matter.

[MultipleCaddies]

How many ads are the non-paying forum users willing to tolerate? They should be shown that many -1. The dues paying members should see zero.

That's the model that works. Everyone pays, it's just that the revenue comes from a different source when they don't join.

This is a proven model from other forums as well as all the apps on our phones. I get to try the app "for free" but with ads. When I realize the value of it, or get tired of the ads, I buy it. Or I realize it's of no value, I'm not out any money, and I'm gone.

I'm not convinced that closing out non-paying people is a good plan. I would not have joined had I not been able to experience the value of the content here. But I'm also an anomaly in that I'll pay/join for the sake of direct support for a place like this... but I have to have the chance to see the value first.

Now, if it's a matter of blocking out the bots and scammers, then that's a different matter.

This is exactly it. Paying members see no ads and get the club benefits, non-paying members see ads. Maybe they don't have access to the classifieds. Just like you said, that is a long-proven model that absolutely works.

[jwwseville60]

Since I have no religion, the CLC is all I have.
Thats worth even a steep $27.55!

[David King (kz78hy)]

This thread has become an example of J. Doyle getting his 1 pound argument for free.  Very clever of him.


https://www.google.com/search?q=monty+python+buy+an+argument&rlz=1C1GCEB_enUS999US999&oq=monty+python+buy+an&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqBwgAEAAYgAQyBwgAEAAYgAQyBggBEEUYOTIICAIQABgWGB4yCAgDEAAYFhgeMggIBBAAGBYYHjINCAUQABiGAxiABBiKBTINCAYQABiGAxiABBiKBTINCAcQABiGAxiABBiKBTINCAgQABiGAxiABBiKBTIKCAkQABiABBiiBKgCCLACAQ&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:20eb4881,vid:uLlv_aZjHXc,st:0

[Lexi]

This thread has become an example of J. Doyle getting his 1 pound argument for free.  Very clever of him.


https://www.google.com/search?q=monty+python+buy+an+argument&rlz=1C1GCEB_enUS999US999&oq=monty+python+buy+an&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqBwgAEAAYgAQyBwgAEAAYgAQyBggBEEUYOTIICAIQABgWGB4yCAgDEAAYFhgeMggIBBAAGBYYHjINCAUQABiGAxiABBiKBTINCAYQABiGAxiABBiKBTINCAcQABiGAxiABBiKBTINCAgQABiGAxiABBiKBTIKCAkQABiABBiiBKgCCLACAQ&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:20eb4881,vid:uLlv_aZjHXc,st:0

LMAO! Clay/Lexi

[MultipleCaddies]

This thread has become an example of J. Doyle getting his 1 pound argument for free.  Very clever of him.


https://www.google.com/search?q=monty+python+buy+an+argument&rlz=1C1GCEB_enUS999US999&oq=monty+python+buy+an&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqBwgAEAAYgAQyBwgAEAAYgAQyBggBEEUYOTIICAIQABgWGB4yCAgDEAAYFhgeMggIBBAAGBYYHjINCAUQABiGAxiABBiKBTINCAYQABiGAxiABBiKBTINCAcQABiGAxiABBiKBTINCAgQABiGAxiABBiKBTIKCAkQABiABBiiBKgCCLACAQ&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:20eb4881,vid:uLlv_aZjHXc,st:0

It's actually just another example of how soft most people have become, that they simply cannot handle debating someone who has strongly held opinions and actually stands behind them. Instead of debating on the merits, they resort to insults and what they think are clever quips to get others laughing and on their side. Much easier to make someone else the villain than it is to actually debate the point, I've learned over many years of this.

[quadfins]

This thread is revolving in circles and is not longer serving a positive purpose for the club or the forum.