Cadillac & LaSalle Club Discussion Forum

Just curious to see how new of a Cadillac or Laslle the active forum users own or have owned. No firm rules lease can count, Escalade counts.  You can change your vote if you get a newer one at some point and the thread and forum still exists at that time. 

I'm not trying to lump the early cars together its just the forum only gives you 11 options so I had to lump some together.   

I own a 1968 DeVille Convertible and my Wife drives a 1992 Brougham. The Brougham's were the end of Cadillac for me personally I don't care for the shorter smaller cars that lack length, weight, bench front seats and full size trunk. The new Cadillac's to me are of no more interest than a Kia. One Mans Opinion.

Make that 2 persons opinions, Bill. I had that one '77 FWB and it lasted about 6 months. It was a pig for power and no room for a long legged person.

I love the humpless flooring of my Eldorado. Set the cruise and stretch out. That, is what driving a Cadillac is all about. 

This could be a very relevant survey...as the membership ownership lists do not, by their very nature, ask that highly relevant question "the newest."  Serving the needs of those members with older, non-computer laden cars who ALSO OWN Cadillacs with quirky computers might uncover a need that should be assessed.  James

Ya I was very curious.  Too bad we don't have historical data like this to look at.  I'm guessing there are going to be very few after 96 when most would say without question the last land yacht was produced and that is getting close to 30 years ago now. Lots of formerly loyal Cadillac buyers that have not even considered buying a new one in 30 years. 

44 views and 14 votes, looks like another stat that will be coming out of this survey.  You don't have to reply, you can just click to vote.

Newest is my 1976 Coupe deVille, oldest was a 1961 series 62 convertible. My favorite was my '70 deVille convertible. Easily the best driving convertible I've ever driven. Still looking for another one.

My newest is the 2019 XT5, and I love it.  My favorite out of all the ones I have had is the 1976 Brougham.

Tim 

My "newest" was a 65 four door I picked up in Bisbee Arizona. The previous owner was kind enough to leave a voodoo doll in the back seat for me to find, but that is a whole other story on it's own.

136 views and 26 votes?  So 110 people have not ever owned any Cadillac?  Strange stat if its true but I suspect its not.

Even though the sample size is pretty small it does look like there is a decent number of people that have been exposed to a fairly new model.  I wonder what this survey would have looked like say 20 or 30 years ago?

I would buy an electric Lyriq if I could afford it. But I even have criticism of that car. Nothing is perfect.

I always thought it was funny that people complain about plastic in new cars, when the classic cars interior panels are literally made of cardboard.

Is there any data comparing the average cost of a new Cadillac today vs older times with inflation and all?  I'm wondering over time if they have got more or less expensive? 

The newest Caddy for me was my 94 Fleetwood Brougham. I never did consider it a "real" Cadillac. On the other hand, my 89 Brougham definitely was though.

I also tend to agree that the last of great traditional looking Cadillacs with that old school build quality when things were still screwed and bolted down, not with plastic clips, with nice chrome trim everywhere with little emblems and scripts was the 92 Brougham.
 
Don't like the modern new stuff at all, and I also feel like the interiors of a lot newer vehicles have poor fit n finish. I just rented a 2022 Chevy Traverse and the interior quality in that car was ungodly cheap and flimsy. Lots of loose fitted trim that can easily be flexed with a slight pull or tug with your fingers. This wasn't an issue on the vintage stuff.

Sure it was a Chevy, what do you expect, it's still a GM vehicle, and I believe the Cadillac XT6 is based on the same platform with the same raspy noisy V6 under the hood built in the same factory.

1969, twice, for me. Clay/Lexi

1970.
After that the styling loses me.
I do like Caddy's that are newer, but Im living in the past
and loving it.

Although I did enjoy my Dad's 1995 Seville very much.

I had five new ones from a 93 and 95 STS, 97 Concours and a 2000 and 2002 DTS.  This was before most of us knew about the Northstar issues of which I had none except a crank sensor on my 97.  I drag raced all of them and ran the Nevada Silver State open road race in my 97.  I had little to complain about. 

I am rather impressed with the 2006-11 DTS.

They are a great value given the needed improvements of prior persistent northstar issues. Impressive performance.

Wonderful frigid air conditioning, awesome volume of discharge, cooled seating.

Excellent interior trimming, stitching,  materials,  fit and finish.

I can not say I am impressed with magnastrut system Or the durability of the hydraulic motor mounts.

Quote from: billyoung on April 19, 2024, 05:54:00 AMI own a 1968 DeVille Convertible and my Wife drives a 1992 Brougham. The Brougham's were the end of Cadillac for me personally I don't care for the shorter smaller cars that lack length, weight, bench front seats and full size trunk. The new Cadillac's to me are of no more interest than a Kia. One Mans Opinion.

1995-1996 Fleetwoods Bill. Smoother and quieter than 1992s. But I do like the 1992 - last of the squared off body with the shrouded rectangular outside mirrors.

Your pole should list all years separately, not by every 10 years. Mine is still a 68.

I maxed out the number of options, even if I didn't go back as far there were not a lot of other options to break it down so I just settled on 10 years.

Only 45 votes and a lot of views?  Guess we have a lot of people that don't actually own a Cadillac?

The 2010-2019 makes sense being the most so far for those that have a 'new' and 'old' Cadillac.  If I could break it down more and ask further questions I would as of those people why they don't have anything newer, cost?  Or don't they like the current offerings?  Is there a lot of difference between say a 2014 and a 2024?  They kinda look the same to me but I think the newest I have been in was maybe an 08ish.

My 2014 XTS, that I loved, was lost to me in a crash with a deer. It ran into the side of my car. Blowing the seat and side airbags. But not the driver airbag thankfully.

I would have liked to replace it with a Cadillac. But that was end of Covid when prices were to high. It would have been another $10,000 for a Cadillac. I still overpaid for what I did get. But it could not be helped.

"The 2010-2019 makes sense being the most so far for those that have a 'new' and 'old' Cadillac.  If I could break it down more and ask further questions I would as of those people why they don't have anything newer, cost?  Or don't they like the current offerings?  Is there a lot of difference between say a 2014 and a 2024?  They kinda look the same to me but I think the newest I have been in was maybe an 08ish."


Great questions Bruce... I suspect, but don't know, that some of us were significantly influenced by our parents, who survived the Great Depression, and only purchased rich men's throw-aways," VIZ: a used Cadillac.  During the 50's and 60's, Cadillac division marketed to my parents' generation, extolling the value of a used Cadillac, and Consumers' Union (now know as Consumers' Report), listed all used Cadillacs as highly desirable. 

When I was a kid we had an 84 Chevy Celebrity. So no nostalgia at all for Cadillac.

I originally bought mine for the challenge. I wanted to find a Buick. But the cadillac was all I could find that week I decided to buy an old car.

And then, once you get into a Cadillac, you never look back!

TJ,
When I bought my 72 Eldo new in 1971 I was making about 30K and the car cost $9,390.00. That was about 1/3 of my annual income. If I wasn't retired today my annual would be something like 100K. How many cadillacs can you get for $30K?
Greg Surfas

Quote from: "Cadillac Kid" Greg Surfas 15364 on Today at 10:57:12 AMTJ,
When I bought my 72 Eldo new in 1971 I was making about 30K and the car cost $9,390.00. That was about 1/3 of my annual income. If I wasn't retired today my annual would be something like 100K. How many cadillacs can you get for $30K?
Greg Surfas

According to the CPI inflation calculator, $30,000 in 1971 would be the equivalent of $232,000 today.  Enough to buy four CT5-Vs and have around $32,000 left over.

That was one of the things I was wondering, what has the relative price of a Cadillac vs other cars in general done over the years?  Has/is Cadillac trying to elevate the brand by raising the prices?

I was also wondering how many people that could afford a newer Cadillac are buying something similarly priced just not a Cadillac because they don't like whats available.   

Eric
You are correct. That is inflation. NOBODIES income has kept up with inflation. If something takes a larger proportion of your income it IS more expensive.
Greg surfas

Quote from: TJ Hopland on Today at 11:40:57 AMThat was one of the things I was wondering, what has the relative price of a Cadillac vs other cars in general done over the years?  Has/is Cadillac trying to elevate the brand by raising the prices? 

As in the example above, the price of a 1971 Eldorado would be the equivalent of $72,615 in inflation adjusted dollars. The base price of a new CT5-V is around $50,000; thousands less for a regular CT5. The Escalade runs significantly higher but it's far less of an apples-to-apples comparison to a '71 Eldorado.

Quote from: "Cadillac Kid" Greg Surfas 15364 on Today at 11:51:14 AMEric
 NOBODIES income has kept up with inflation.

Not according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. The US median household income in 1971 was $10,290 and $74,580 in 2022. Acc to the CPI Inflation calculator, that works out to $74,356 (2022) which is nearly identical.

Quote from: Eric DeVirgilis CLC# 8621 on Today at 11:36:54 AMAccording to the CPI inflation calculator, $30,000 in 1971 would be the equivalent of $232,000 today.  Enough to buy four CT5-Vs and have around $32,000 left over.

And you could use that $32G's to buy the insurance on them.