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Title: 1948 Paint Formula NEEDED
Post by: Rod Dahlgren #19496 on January 19, 2009, 05:54:43 PM
Trying to find someone that has the Actual Paint formula for a 1948 coupe. Code 2 Amherst Blue. This is a metallic color as confirmed by the original paint inside and under many parts. The current PPG formula provided by PPG has NO metallic in it.. This is not a correct formula. Can anyone help?

Thanks,
Rod Dahlgren #19496
Title: Re: 1948 Paint Formula NEEDED
Post by: Terry Wenger, CLC#1800 on January 19, 2009, 10:09:04 PM
Rod:

My Ditzler '41 through '50 color book does not have the formula for the Amherst Blue Poly but the number is DAL-10095. DAL stands for Ditzler Automotive Lacquer. It is definitely metallic, but the original formula woukld not be able to be mixed as the nitro-cellulose lacquer mixing color aren't available any longer.

Terry
Title: Re: 1948 Paint Formula NEEDED
Post by: Warren Rauch on January 23, 2009, 07:04:42 PM
   Since PPG makes Ditzler paint you do need the Ditzler formula. I have only been able to find Acme and Sherwin Williams formuas. The metallic  in Acme is called fine luminescence (they also use luminesence in other colors)it is about 3 1/8 %  of the mix. THe metallic in Sherwin Williams is Opalescent R ( they also have Opalescent F) it is 1 1/2 % of the mix. Does Ditzler still provide mixing formulas to mix the colors that are needed to mix the old formula?  I believe they did at one time.
You are fortunate that you have some areas that could be scaned if you can't do it any other way. Warren
Title: Re: 1948 Paint Formula NEEDED
Post by: J. Gomez on January 23, 2009, 07:44:50 PM
Rod,

The following auto paint link has an on-line paint chip from Ditzler and that color combination is listed. You could enter the data from the paint chip sheet and see if they can match it. A phone call would best to validate availability and correct formula under current blends.

http://www.tcpglobal.com/aclchip.aspx?image=1948-cadillac-pg01.jpg

Jose Gomez CLC #23082
Title: Re: 1948 Paint Formula NEEDED
Post by: harvey b on January 24, 2009, 12:12:25 PM
Hello All, another problem with matching these old colors is that the mettalics that they used to use are being phased out,now the colors have pearl flakes instead of metal ones,it is really tough to match some of the old colors now.i run a bodyshop,i run into this all the time ???,it is only going to get worse with the coming of waterbourne paint,if you have a car thats going to need some touch-up,you better stockpile some paint,because when its gone it will be gone forever.HTH Harvey B