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Title: 1960 lost my trunk key
Post by: 60eldo on May 26, 2015, 08:09:01 PM
     Is there any easy way to open my trunk and get a key made for it? Is there a number engraved on the cylinder,,,,,,,,HELP
Title: Re: 1960 lost my trunk key
Post by: The Tassie Devil(le) on May 26, 2015, 08:17:15 PM
The Glove Box lock takes the same key.

Remove that, and take it to a Locksmith.

Bruce. >:D
Title: Re: 1960 lost my trunk key
Post by: 60eldo on May 26, 2015, 08:19:35 PM
   I did, but at some point the glove box was switched,,,,mmmmmmmmm
Title: Re: 1960 lost my trunk key
Post by: russ austin on May 27, 2015, 08:04:52 AM
Take the back seat out, use a broom stick with a screw driver tapes onto it.  Flash light in 1 hand, stick the screw driver in the slot of the lock and twist.
Title: 1960 lost my trunk key
Post by: bcroe on May 27, 2015, 02:03:34 PM
On my cars there are 3 bolts on the latch.  I have been able to reach from the back seat
with a very long extension to undo them, and it opens.  One problem with the glove box,
some did not have the full set of tumblers used in outside locks.  Bruce Roe
Title: Re: 1960 lost my trunk key
Post by: 76eldo on May 27, 2015, 02:47:08 PM
If the latch is original it will have 3 Phillips screws holding it to the trunklid and they may be facing the rear. The shaft may also keep it in place. You may bind things up if you detach the latch.

Brian
Title: Re: 1960 lost my trunk key
Post by: Scott Halver on May 27, 2015, 08:05:26 PM
Hello Bruce,
THANK YOU for the tip.........  use the glove box lock to make a key for the trunk lock.   I have a 1960 Eldo with the electric trunk opener, so we never use a trunk key.   Someday the electric lock will have a problem and I don't have the trunk key.   SHalver #24920
Title: 1960 lost my trunk key
Post by: bcroe on May 28, 2015, 09:54:59 AM
Quote from: SHalverHello Bruce,
THANK YOU for the tip.........  use the glove box lock to make a key for the trunk lock.   I have a 1960 Eldo with the electric trunk opener, so we never use a trunk key.   Someday the electric lock will have a problem and I don't have the trunk key.   SHalver #24920   

Well, take the lock to a locksmith and have a key made.  You might start on a project like
mine.  My 2 keys work on all 5 of the Generals cars here, because I mastered all the locks. 

Bruce Roe
Title: Re: 1960 lost my trunk key
Post by: harry s on May 28, 2015, 10:13:11 AM
Another way is to find a set of master keys for GM (1935 to 1966), usually about 60 some keys. In most cases you can open the trunk with one of them, then have a key cut from the master. Good Luck,   Harry
Title: Re: 1960 lost my trunk key
Post by: 59-in-pieces on May 28, 2015, 02:11:24 PM
Johnny,
What I did on my 59 Chevy Impala - same GM stuff - was to drive the car to a lock smith, who in-a-shake picked the lock - voila - opened.
I then pulled the lock from the trunk lid and he made me keys - an extra for my wallet.
IOMO - just saying.
Have fun,
Steve B.
Title: Re: 1960 lost my trunk key
Post by: 76eldo on May 28, 2015, 02:39:42 PM
If you can get the build sheet from GM it has key codes on it.  I don't know if anyone can cut one from the code.

I'm sure it can be picked. Then the fun begins. You will need to remove the sheet metal trunk extension in order to get to the two screws holding in the lock.

It's a bit of a project. 

Brian
Title: Re: 1960 lost my trunk key
Post by: Dan LeBlanc on May 28, 2015, 02:51:44 PM
GM now redacts key code information from the build sheets.
Title: Re: 1960 lost my trunk key
Post by: Ken Perry on May 28, 2015, 03:00:20 PM
From what I have seen,you take a big hammer and chisel and beat the hell out of it and ruin the rear of the trunk while you are at it !!! :) OK don't do that,,,,I get so mad when I get a Cadillac and that has been done!! I myself take out the back seat and get a long extention with a 6 point 7/16 socket on the end and take out the bottom two bolts,trunk comes rite open! Always! Unless it has a power lock,but then you would already have it open !  On a 60 CAd you need to take off the body panel at the rear of the trunk every so often anyway to clean out the dirt,so they won't rust out. OH,my favorite is when they beat the trunk up and still don't get it open  >:(  Ken Perry 
Title: Re: 1960 lost my trunk key
Post by: bill06447 on May 28, 2015, 07:33:10 PM
Glove box lock won't work on a 60 or 61, they have fewer tumblers than the trunk cylinder. Best and least invasive is a locksmith-they will have it open in a matter of minutes.

Bill
Title: Re: 1960 lost my trunk key
Post by: David Greenburg on May 28, 2015, 07:59:01 PM
Yes, Ken, but in the situation you describe, you become the owner of whatever is in the trunk.  Please leave amazing stuff in the trunk even when they don't lose the keys. Didn't seem like a  big deal at the time, but when I bought my '59 60S, there was a complete set of Fleetwood wheelcovers and nearly complete extra set of 60S side trim.
Title: 1960 lost my trunk key
Post by: bcroe on May 28, 2015, 09:34:15 PM
Quote from: harry sAnother way is to find a set of master keys for GM (1935 to 1966),
usually about 60 some keys. In most cases you can open the trunk with one of them, then
have a key cut from the master. Good Luck,   Harry   

There are 6 tumblers each with 4 possible positions, for a total of 4096 combinations.  Those
so called "master keys" are in fact cut half way between 2 legitimate positions, so 2 possible
positions for 6 tumblers is 64 possibilities.  Because they are cut between, they might open
the lock with some tinkering, but they aren't a good model for a regular key.  Bruce Roe
Title: Re: 1960 lost my trunk key
Post by: 60eldo on June 13, 2015, 11:13:29 AM
  Just an update here. I drilled out the cylinder broke 4 drill bits and 2hrs later I got it open. I ordered a cylinder from OPG and I just want to say,,,WHAT A PIECE OF JUNK,,,,When I installed it it fell apart into 3 pieces.  I put it back together and somehow I got it to fit but when I put the key in it opened but now the key is stuck in the cylinder and wont come out!!!!!!   To say Im a little pissed would be an understatement. To all stay away from these new repo cylinders,,,chineese sh--t
Title: Re: 1960 lost my trunk key
Post by: 76eldo on June 13, 2015, 08:31:46 PM
Johnny,

I wish I had one to send you but I have never parted out a 59 or 60.

Try Brian Faul.  He is fair and has a lot of original parts.

I'd also call OPGI and return that crappy part.

Brian
Title: Re: 1960 lost my trunk key
Post by: BillR. CLC # 29203 on June 13, 2015, 09:58:46 PM
"NEW TRUNK LOCK FITS CADILLAC 1959-1960/CHEVROLET 1959 GM KEYS"   on eBay @  $29.99 "Buy it Now"
Title: Re: 1960 lost my trunk key
Post by: russ austin on June 14, 2015, 10:34:39 AM
So why didn't you go through the back seat with tools?
Title: Re: 1960 lost my trunk key
Post by: 76eldo on June 14, 2015, 12:03:19 PM
It's a very long from the rear bulkhead to the trunk latch.  You would need about a 4 foot screw driver to try to engage the slot and turn the latch.  The shaft coming from the key side of the latch already occupies that space.

If it's original there are three Phillips screws holding in the latch and it's not going to just fall out of the trunk it closed.

Picking the lock by a locksmith would have been the best method but drilling it out and replacing it works too. He just got a cheap repro part instead of a quality item as you would expect from a known vendor.

Moral is make extra keys when you get a car because sometimes these things happen.

Brian
Title: Re: 1960 lost my trunk key
Post by: 60eldo on June 14, 2015, 03:22:08 PM
    What good would that do?  I dont have a key. Mostly what Im trying to do is warn you guys, not to buy this cheap lock from OPG,,,,its garbage. Now I want to find a real GM used one with keys