I'll be interested to see if i am convicted by a jury of my peers .
http://www.customcarchronicle.com/digital-restyling/digital-restyling-1939-cadillac-60/
Hello Quentin
Rik is a creative stylist. Nice work!
Anything done in good taste, and done with quality craftsmanship is OK in my book.
I like the final look. :P It's not a series 60 though, it's a Sixty Special. ;D
If it's done as it would have been done in the 30's and not turned into just another modern Frankenstein with a classic shell then it will be a thing to behold.
Normally, I like an original car, especially in a Cadillac.
BUT this final version truly is a thing of beauty!!!
It should have been offered as a sports coupe when it was new. I would want one, but so would everyone else.
Great concept! I hope it goes ahead!
Chris Bryant
Very nice. Not radical just tasteful. Harry
Very cool! I like the idea and think it's best with no rear side windows.
IMO the body to top proportions may be slightly off.
I would like to see it with either another inch of roof height or 1-2 inches sectioned out of the body just for comparison :)
Quote from: INTMD8 on June 05, 2014, 12:16:42 PM
Very cool! I like the idea and think it's best with no rear side windows.
IMO the body to top proportions may be slightly off.
I would like to see it with either another inch of roof height or 1-2 inches sectioned out of the body just for comparison :)
My preference is one of the '5-window' versions, but I agree, less top chop would look more in scale and be better balanced, IMHO. Chop it enough that someone thinks something is different, yet no one immediately says it's been chopped.
I have looked and looked again and then again. It's missing the beautiful side vents in the aprons. It needs something there.
I also think the front fender should continue back into the doors like the 1941 but even more to make the new lower profile appear more streamlined. Extending the front fender would make the door look less prominent.
The whole process of this design is to try and do it a if it had been started in 1940 and the war intervened and it was completed in 1946. There is the precedent of a factory 4 inch top chop for Sloan or Kettering. Does anyone have a pic?. I wanted to keep as much of the original styling possible. I love Bill Michelle's "suitcase" fenders and despite the post warcustom tend to flow the front fenders front to rear ala 41 Buick, I want to keep the Cord look fenders.
Yes I too am torn between 3 window coupe/roadster or 5 window coupe. I love each design. Maybe someone else can build the ones that I don't.
I really want to achieve the look that Bowman Schwartz and Coachcraft achieved during this time.
I must say that Rik's use of the earlier hubcaps really gives it an elegant feel.
I love the 39 Goddess but have to admit that the smooth good really emphasises the aero look.
Sometimes it is hard to redesign from the future looking back cos we are doing so with the knowledge of where the designs and the eras ended.
My vote would go to the car in photo D - (with hood ornament, single strip molding, "Darrin" roof) - but raised back up to the proper height.
I think that would be a winner.
So the consensus is that there is no consensus. No wonder Cadillac offered such a smorgasbord of custom bodies for their earlier series cars. Everyone has their own taste.
It seems that the roof chop is too severe for some. Perhaps it is because the standard Sixty Special is so tall.
The window height that I have "chopped" to is the same as the height of a standard 46 conv.. The whole idea of this custom is to look forward to the future from the past. Harley Earl was closely following custom trends emerging from California. Heck he was a Caifornia customiser....that's how he got to Detroit in the first place.Harley always said a rectangle is more appealing than a square. Roof chops were done even earlier. Their is a custom Brunn? 30 31 v16 with a heavily lowered conv/coupe top. Check out a Voison.
A mate has just bought a,41 conv and it is on it's way. It will be interesting to get a few dimensions for comparison.
I would still love to see the Factory chopped Sixty Special. Sloan got a coupe with standard roof height and it looks like a pimple, on a bum. Kettering got 41 stretched four inches. ... Their was another supposedly chopped. Yann would know?? Where are you mate?
I should have clarified:
The suspension should be raised to correct height; not the roof - which adds to the sportiness.
Not sure now the source of the information but the 40-60S factory chopped cars are 2 inches I believe and not 4". The 40-41 convertibles are definitely a 2 inch chop in true length. The actual elevation view chop would be less. In other words the stainless trim in the middle of the windshield is 2 inches less in length on the convertibles than the sedans and coupes. the angle is approximately 50 degrees so the actual elevation view chop is 1.5 inches.
Thanks Brad, it was in a Self Starter that I read about the 4inch chop. I don't plan on doing any cutting till I get a goodlook at the 41 and relate sizes to 46 conv. Longer lower wider was the creed for a few years. The Bowman,Schwartz 40 has a very low screen. Anyone know who owns it? I'd love a windshield measurement.
The pic shows the white template for a 46 conv . It is sitting on the shoulder of the door so in actual fact would be half an inch lower.
Hi Q,
First I'd like to say I'm glad that this topic was reinstated.
Re my pick of the proposals... if you're SERIOUS about the 60S theme, the only logical choice is "B" .
All the others remind me of a certain roof line which I know very well. LOL!
I seriously doubt that any GM cars had a 4" chop. Way to radical. Maybe a 4" stretch??? Brad pointed out the correct W/S to chop relationship.
Have fun, Bob
You are completely right Bob, and interestingly the first person to recognise B for that reason. It's just that when I saw the 3 window hardtop....and then the roadster..... Especially with the chrome windshield frame. It was goodnight. Roofline reminded me of a certain Calif custom that both Rik and I love.
It's kind if like going to a school prom again. I fall in love with every beautiful girl I dance with.
How i spent my fall vacation.
Quite a transformation. Very nice work!!! Looking forward to watching your progress.
Had a productive few days. This car will have a removable hardtop as well as a traditional conv top mechanism under a hinged, all metal hard boot, ala Y job and 53 Eldo.
Lots of measuring and remeasuring to determine if it will all work and so far I am confidant that it will. Otherwise I have some big, heavy hammers to rectify any problems.
I always imagined this car to be General Motors 1939 Worlds Fair car. Instead of the Delahaye 165 being the highlight, I have always dreamed and wondered "What if Cadillac had done something extra special ?"
After revisiting photos of the Delahaye , I suspect it may have looked like a diminutive toy compared to the "graceful bulk" of the Cadillac.
Also planning to frame the windshield in a stainless sheath. Got the idea from a 31 V16 conv coupe.
Nice metal work! You are making fast progress. What do you plan to use as the folding convertible top structure?
Gday Jim, thanks for your keen interest. Otherwise the response so far has been.....underwhelming. To answer your question,I have the partial remains of a 46 conv top Mech and luckily the missing parts are ones I would have to modify our fabricate anyhow.
Far from being underwhelmed, I think everyone is just being blown away with the images you are posting.
Bruce. >:D
Thanks Bruce, I'm a sensitive soul and my vulnerable ego needs constant stroking. Q
Consider it stroked again, the car is beautiful --- needs white walls. ;D
Hi Quentin,
Outstanding work! I would love to see more photos of the process with perhaps some insight as to how and why you went about deciding where to cut and what to cut during the process.
I'm truly impressed with your work thus far. Have you decided on the color and interior appointments yet?
Terry
Quentin,
I'm really admiring your work and your courage for such an undertaking! To take it from digital dream to reality is quite impressive. Keep the updates coming :)
Bob
Hinged the parade boot. Lots of detail work to get it to all work. But looking good from every angle. Inspired by the y job and 53 Eldo parade boot. Once this is sorted I can move onto the hardtop details.
Very impressive!
BR
Way cool!
David
Incredible work and vision
Now i am well aware that I am treading on delicate ground on this forum. But i am customising this car "in the tradition" of how i think a factory custom may have been done. So with that in mind , please let me present this challenge.
I want to do rotating headlight s like the Cord and Y job. I am struggling with a mechanism that would allow it to rotate like a soccer ball. I want the headlight to remain in the guard when up not with a bulbous protuberance like the Cord, but recessed like the Y job.
Anybody seen the y job headlight opening?? Any guys handy with a pen and a napkin and a mechanical bent in problem solving out there?
I'm not familiar with Y-job headlight operation but if I understand you correctly, you want headlights open/closed to remain flush. If there is a lip around the headlight opening it seems to me the headlight when going from closed to open would need to pull back slightly, in order to clear the surround. (unless you had quite a large gap to begin with).
The way I would do this is fabricate a pivot point on the headlight bucket centered up and down but slightly forward fore and aft. Ends of the pivot/shafts would be geared, riding on a geared track that was straight forward/back. Offset pivot and geared track would allow it to dive in and clear surround on inital movement but end up with headlights being flush after 180deg rotation.
Just my initial thoughts, may be a more eloquent solution but I can draw it up if my description is difficult to read.
You are definitely on the ball Jim. Yes all you said is spot on. It is the initial roll inwards to allow the ball to rotate. Doesn't need to go 180 degrees, just 90 degrees. I think what I will do is to mould some fibreglass to the fender shape and make a few trial pieces to practice on.
Oh as I'm typing, I just had a brainwave. I'll have to draw it a few times.
Finding a working pen and a clean sheet of paper......now that is a challenge.
I'm thinking rear window tracks how the window comes up and then comes forward into the channel the last inch or so.
Exactly. The track movement will allow you to have a more solid edge around the light opening so that the fender is still structurally stiff.
A bit like the operation of a 1935 or '36 Ford front door window. It moves backwards a couple of inches before descending. Wouldn't take much to design a double action to move the light, and the cover.
Bruce. >:D
I've been scratching my head wondering where have I seen a double action mechanism that does exactly that and "Eureka" I just remembered, 53 heater box vent flaps. One goes up another flips up into the space to change the vent flow, two movements with one cable pull.
Decided that the roof was too full in the middle, so sectioned 20 mm out so that it is flatter on top. Also raked the screen back, which in turn moved the roof back, giving better balance.
Went to the Regent cinema in Perth on Saturday night. Can you imagine the 39 parked out front.
That's better.
It is all about those little items that need "Just that little bit more, or less" that does the trick.
Bruce. >:D
Q,
Can you send me a direct email? bobscads@comcast.net
Thanks, Bob
With all the 53 barn find excitement I almost forgot the 39 . I'd seen a couple of these pics before but others only yesterday for the first time. Thanks to Ross Morgan for sending me the link. There is a Bill Mitchell one on my computer I'll add later that isn't in the story.
http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2008/11/16/sia-flashback-harley-earls-scrapbooks/
Always good to have a refresher course . . . Dan Post wrote the book on it. . . literally. Thanks to Geoffrey Hacker's Forgotten Fibreglass site for the link.
http://www.sportcustom.com/dan-post-books/california-custom-car-photo-album-dan-post-publications-1947/
Progress continues in my after hours spare time. Got the hardtop shaped to where I want it. This will dictate the window frame size , which in turn will dictate the folding top mechanism. Next job will be to make these side window frames in Stainless. Will be using Lincoln 1941 door buttons now that I have established that they were used on the Y job and the 1954 Lasalle roadster.
Got the windshield header fabbed and welded and pleased that it looks very factory.
Further to the discovery of the Y job having Lincoln push button door lock buttons added in the 40s restyle here is a good timeline photo. I think these shots are from Time magazine but not sure of the exact year.
One of my favourite designers has always been Alexis De Sakhnoffsky. Who ???? He had a profound effect on the "luxury look" . Have a read here . . .
http://www.coachbuilt.com/des/d/desakhnoffsky/desakhnoffsky.htm
So presently the hardtop is essentially finished and now work can commence on getting the folding convertible top mechanism to fold away . . . . Stay tuned the next few weeks.
amazing!
I can't wait to see you progress! 8)
Sectioned 46 front bumpers 2 inches to give a much more streamlined flow. Tidying up under side of hardtop and next will be to make some taillights in the bumper over riders.
Put the $100 ebay 40 dash in. Still looking for the lower dash, starter lighter, choke chrome assembly for a 40.
Yesterday I got the rear bumper fixed and was able to stand back and see the car for the first time complete as to Rik and my original vision. Essentially the major bodywork is done.
I'm very happy with the look and proportions. Now I just have to get it up and running.
G'day Quentin,
You're not the only one that is happy with the look. It is truly gorgeous, and stunning.
Bruce. >:D
This will be one stunning Cadillac, outstanding craftsmanship, Harley Earl would have approved!
Quentin,
The metal shaping and structural fabrication is a work of art. The overall design and proportion could have come from Murphy, Brunn or even “Mistearlâ€.
Ralph
Quentin,
Beautiful work from the house of Hall..perfect proportion. Sakhnoffsky is one of my favorites. A friend has a White truck designed by him.
Cheers, Pat
Thanks for the encouragement guys. I know some will be thinking "what the heck is he doing" . . . There are days when I think that too. . . But then I just have to stand back and look at it.
Anyhow, time to get a coffee and start work on Warren's 53 Eldo which is really starting to come together. (I hope heaven is like this!)
PS this custom scene is quite rigorous. A couple of mates aren't 100 percent sure on the flow of the rear Fenderskirts especially in relationship to the boxy front fender. I'd love 41 sixty special style fenders . Can any one send me some dimensions. Length and height so I can do a mock up template. Rik is drawing up an alternative.
http://www.customcarchronicle.com/forums/topic/39-cadillac-sixty-special/page/24/#post-19378
Until I get the side window shape determined I can't proceed with the soft top frame. Standard conv roof will hide under parade boot or hardtop when not in use.
Now time to get the conv top mechanism working. This is half a 46 top. Luckily the missing bits are ones I would have to modify anyhow. Inspired by the y job and 53 Eldo, this top needs to tuck down low so as not to ride up and to fit beneath the parade boot. Encouraging so far.
Looks awesome! Very nice proportions all around and impressive fab work 8)
The big moment.
Very cool Q!
David
Well, I think it's safe to say you work much faster than me! Let me know where I can send the plane ticket so you can come finish my Brougham ;D
The 39 is play Jim. The 53 is work. Surely you know the difference?
Quote from: Quentin Hall on December 07, 2014, 08:39:52 AM
The 39 is play Jim. The 53 is work. Surely you know the difference?
Looks great!
I love what you are doing to the 39.
Found these great sketches that are from the heyday of GM design. It is heartbreaking to think that only a handful of sketches were saved . http://deansgarage.com/2011/harley-earls-scrapbooks/
and more
Tidied up the parade but detail. I got Rik Hoving to do a photo shop of the roof mechanism so I can tell if the shape will be ok. Very happy with the look.
Quote from: Quentin Hall on January 08, 2015, 02:06:58 AM
and more
Here is side profile. I will lower it but not as much as the photoshop. Maybe 3 inches is where I think.
Looking good Quentin.
The back needs to come up 1".
Bruce. >:D
Quentin,
I'm truly impressed! Great Vision and Execution. It's 21st. Century Coachbuilding at it's finest. That car will grace the covers of many publications when finished. You need to keep up the same level of craftsmanship throughout the build, and I see no alternative at this point for anything less than an over-the-top paint job. Maybe some miles deep Nitrocellulose Lacquer might be in order for this one. Curious about the drivetrain? One Killer Ride…….
Bobby
Thanks Bobby, this is my own car and ah if you knew my working budget you wouldn't begrudge my asking for donations. Haha.I have a good mate who said he'd help paint it. Not too worried about paint yet. For the moment in just hoping to realize the design and fabrication and get it working as it should.
Mechanically it is running a stock drive line. Though I have had discussions with Barry Burrell who I an buying a dual carb manifold that was developed by his father, Frank for Cadillac tank engines during WW2.
Eventually I'd like to get Cyclone alloy heads.
With the dual carbs I will also ruin a dual exhaust. A precursor to the Eldorado is my vision.
Wow - so nice! 8)
I especially like how the back contour generously slopes down. I don't usually like the cars from that era because the back end drops off so sharply.
Very nicely done!
Will you build one for me? ;-) :P
Best regards,
Nicolas
There were mixed reactions about Rik and my convertible roof profile. So we came up with a more flowing style just to see. This would mean shortening the second last bow and lengthening the last that sits on the parade boot. I do like both and will most likely pick a middle ground as it is dependent on it all folding up neatly under the parade bout.
I also put Lucas glass lenses in the bumperettes. Looks like they were made for them. For a time I wanted to have a separate cast style windshield frame like Bohman and Schwartz but with the addition of the cut down windshield trim I like the more integrated look as it sits.
Been a while since I posted. Let's see what I've done lately. Ok. Mostly tidying up details. Devil is in the details. Gaps, seams , edges, all take time. I had to widen the upper door channel and will make a folding flap as on the factory Convs. Also braced up the hardtop and added locating latches. Welded the inner door panels in and the doors have become nice and rigid once more.
Two weeks goes so fast when you are having fun.
A friend sent me this pic last night of a 40 Lasalle chopped from new at Don Lee Cadillac. Yesterday I learned that Earl Motor Works was located across the street from Don Lee. That is how Harley got his foot in the door at GM. I visited the boarded up Don Lee showroom in 1996. I could just see the mosaic facade behind the hoarding but I had no idea at the time about the Earl shop. If only I had turned around.
I can't believe how similar the roofline looks to my hardtop. Also look at the shape of the fenderskirts. Which I made very early on with no real reference. I think a few old ghosts must have been guiding my tinsnips and hammers.
Here's a very interesting Don Lee link.
http://justacarguy.blogspot.com.au/2011/12/don-lee-remarkable-story-remarkable.html?m=1
Quote from: Quentin Hall on March 06, 2015, 08:16:05 PM
I can't believe how similar the roofline looks to my hardtop. Also look at the shape of the fenderskirts. Which I made very early on with no real reference. I think a few old ghosts must have been guiding my tinsnips and hammers.
Q,
I don't know about the skirts, but the roof line & SS stone guards are amazing... I guess the ghosts were working over time.
LOL, WINK,WINK.
Bob
Who would believe I'd ever be debating the length of my skirt with old guys on the internet?? Hehe. Don't worry, a few critics have said my skirts need to taper further back. Same debate as the soft top. Square or swoopy . I am happy to see the "Don Lee" Lasalle sporting similar Fenderskirts a the ones I made.
PS. Since Don was dead in 1934 we should probably assume his son Tommy seen in the pic had a fairly big influence with the racier, sportier image that these customs suggest, since it appears he was somewhat of a playboy, racer, celebrity?
Maybe when I have "nothing to do" I'll make another pair of longer skirts. Happy now?? Or do you like the look of flush fit skirts like on a maroon 41 custom I've seen a pic of ?
Quentin, you have done in weeks what many guys, including myself, would only have dreamed about. My farthest out "dream" was to graft a 1948 Chevrolet Passenger Panel truck onto a 1941 Series 61 chassis. There was a wholesale cigar store in Indianapolis during the 1940s on South Meridian Street south of L.S. Ayres department store that used these panel "trucks" for it's sales force. They were painted a medium brown and had orange wheels, and were always kept spotless.
Keep up the good work. When do you sleep?
Warren would say that I sleep when I'm supposed to be working on his 53 and getting paid. . . but that is an in-house joke.
Still waiting for Bob to respond with fenderskirt ideas.
Q,
I have no comments on your skirts. If you like them, I like them. You know what my design is. If you want, I can review your design & comment.
I was kidding with you about the contour of your top that you finally decided on. I agree with that of course. You know why. LOL!
Bob
Ever the diplomat Bob. My skirt shape is dependant on two converging shapes. The trunk is rounded, but the "suitcase" fender projects the line horizontally.
As well the original wheel well opening on the fender is a full radius. So the height is a given. I tapered the skirt line to match the trunk line. . . Some say I should have followed the fender line. ala 41 sixty S. That's why I got the can of black paint out and put some solid color down. I can live with the present shape. . . And the 40 Lasalle Custom vindicates this.
I will possibly make a second pair of skirts, longer this time. As Art says , they can go on and off in a couple of mins.
I think the fender skirts look great but I do notice that the rear fender looks to be bolted a bit low. I don't think you should see that shoulder between the fender and the body.
That edge roll is as a result of having to bring the sides in after sectioning the trunk. Sixty specials are slab sided at this point. Coupes and Convs taper. As the trunk came down the sides needed to come in. It gives a nice boattail swoop to the rear.
.
Just stumbled onto this website. Is this the one that you have been telling me about Ross?? Lots of Cadillacs and Lasalles in the mix. But some wild Lasalle designs from 1937 possibly for 1939 consideration. Go here and be sure to look at the other pages.
https://www.flickr.com/groups/1172355@N23/pool/glenhsparky/page3
Getting a top frame to fold below the parade boot was my biggest concern. The geometry of the mechanism is like playing Bobby Fisher and making pancakes whilst doing your income tax, all at the same time. But tonight I think I have done it. Well I did it. . . Sans top fabric.
Thanks to Brad Ipsen and Bob Hoffman previously, for kindly giving me some parts. Still need a vent wing mech. Can't remember which side Brad gave me. Will install it over weekend.
I wish I had even half of the skill and ambition you have. This is the most awesome project, I'm really enjoying watching it take shape.
Thanks Joe, this project is a slightly unconventional deviation for me considering the sheer amount of work it represents but also because it was really hard for me to cut up and alter such a significant car. I always had a clear plan of where it is headed and that has come from years of reading and searching for info.
Nevertheless it was a shock and a very pleasant surprise when I found these proposals dated 1937. Nice to find many of the elements that I wanted to incorporate here in these designs.
Yesterday i finally achieved what i have dreamed about for so long. With the rear floating bows worked out, i managed to fold them forward, raise the boot. Fold it in and close the boot. The parade boot latches came from a gm family car (you can work out which) but look and work like they were made for it. If only the 53 Eldos had a latch like this.
Look'n good Q.
Just found a bunch of incredible design drawings from Art Ross who was chief of design at Cadillac, Buick and Olds. Apparently he was also a big fan of the female form and some of his more adventurous work is too much racy to post on this forum. .but let's just say that it us no accident that his car designs exuded sex.
http://theartofartross.com/links.htm
or be warned . . .
http://www.eroticabyartross.com/home.htm
Here is a really well written piece on the significance of the Sixty Special.
http://ateupwithmotor.com/model-histories/cadillac-sixty-special/
Nicely done on the top mechanism!
Inspiration for when I get back to Perth. . . .
It is easy to see 1942-48 Buick style notes as well as the 1942-47 Cadillac pontoon fenders and trim. Way cool.
Been a while. I'll be back in the saddle real soon.
The last two days were monumental . After years of slumber the 39 rose Phoenix like. Went for several test drives round the block. Lots of little niggles to keep working away on but mechanically I think is fine. I put a couple of videos on my Facebook page as did Rik Hoving. Someone smarter than me will post a link if possible.
I like to think a few GM greats were looking down from the heavens.
Great job!
Maybe this will work... It looks fantastic moving under its own power! https://www.facebook.com/Rik.Hoving.Kustoms/posts/10201255580628307 (https://www.facebook.com/Rik.Hoving.Kustoms/posts/10201255580628307)
she's a runner . nice work Q .
Here are another couple or three.
https://www.facebook.com/garrygaz.halliwell/videos/1059337864111145/
https://www.facebook.com/garrygaz.halliwell/videos/1059196224125309/
https://www.facebook.com/100008036737514/videos/1686026938341848/
Hey Q,
I've been trying to reach you on the Oz board. What kind of speedo gear do you need? Are you bringing your car to Wang? Are you even coming to Wang? Please advise.
Cheers, Bob
Hi Bob, Sorry , I got a new job in a Brisbane restoration shop and it is full on. I would have loved to catch up with you and go to Wang but work and my frenetic lifestyle might preclude it. I was kind of expecting Ross or Tony or Warren to email me and say we are all booked and going ( and no that isn't an invitation Ross and Tony or Warren.)
The speedo drive is one of probably 100 things that is on my list. The ratios will have been thrown out by my drop to 15 inch wheels. I may have to pull the box out another day and readdress it. I used the tail and shaft from one long box and the housing from a short box so I really have no idea. Speedo drive from short box is too small for the long box. Shifts wonderfully though. So smooth.
There seems to be two different gear drive dia. The one I need is the larger dia I believe.
You will have a lot of fun and I know you are very well respected so make sure you have a nice jacket when they make you do a speech or present an award . . . or chug 3 beers in a row.
Hi Q,
Glad you got a new job, sorry you can't go to Wang. I was not able to visit Brisbane, the reef or Taz on this trip. Maybe next time. I'm going to Melbourne, the meet, the rock & Perth. I'll take your advice & bring a jacket. Thanks.
Good Luck, Bob
To maintain the coachbuilt custom theme the suspension needed to be lowered without falling into the trap of overlowering of many contemporary builds. The original rear leafs were way up high perhaps to facilitate three passengers across the back seat.
I found some light commercial truck springs in a skip and they allowed the 5 inch drop I required. I was worried the ride might be hard. I needn't have.
Here is a very interesting historical perspective on the chopped top by Ric Hoving. Nice to see the Don Lee LaSalle included. http://www.customcarchronicle.com/custom-cars/history-of-the-chopped-top-01/
Been a while since I had a play. Still a long hibernation of my projects but to cheer me up I got the 39 out to have a look dead on side view.
Also might clean up the carter carbs and work out a good arrangement for a dual exhaust.
It chuffs a little oil smoke once it warms up but I'm hoping that it might settle down once I get it fully drivable. Could even be residual oil sitting in the exhaust from when I filled the pots right up when I got it.
Nevertheless it starts and idles better than any car I've ever owned.
Quentin,
I said it awhile back, but it's always nice to get your ego stroked now and then.....That car is going to be KILLER when it's done, so please find the inspiration to finish it......... ;)
Bobby
I've decided that the rear fender skirts I made aren't sympathetic to the aesthetic flow of the rest of the car.
I asked Rik Hoving to come up with a digital rendering of a cleaner look somewhere in between what I have now, and 41 Sixty Special fender skirts.
Chip Foose has completed the Sixty Special that was begun prior to me getting my car.
Although our themes are similar the outcomes ate quite different.
I'm trying to stay closer to the idea of a coachbuilt prototype whilst the Foose car has gone for contemporary upgrades.
Yours is a lot better Quentin.
Bruce. >:D
Q,
A lot of these cars are looking more like mine all the time. LOL! Amazing. Please do me a favor when you're in contact with people that like these type of cars & mention that mine is for sale.
Thanks, Bob
Well Bob, it is no accident that there is a similarity. Your style chop harks back to the Don Lee car for Clark Gable as you know.
The California culture inspired some wonderfully stylish cars to influence the Detroit designers who were mostly young guys straight out of art school.
It is surprising how many big dollar customs a currently being built.
I may be at the other end of the financial spectrum but nevertheless it is always good to hear the approval of others within the hobby.
I'm surprised someone here hasn't picked up your 41 custom Bob. It's definitely the million dollar look for a lot less.
Q,
I just need the right guy to hear about it. Any help appreciated.
Cheers, Bob
This pic turned up via my Scandinavian mates Rik Hoving and Bert Gustafson. It is a stunning traditional custom. Chopped, sectioned, frenched. Does anyone know any further details on it?
Agree with Russ 100%
We'll the information age is fast. I now know it is a Tom Black creation. He previously did another really nice dark blue 41 custom without the section or parade boot.
Q,
Is Tom Black the owner or the builder? He needs my coupe as a "mate". Anyone know how to contact him?
Thanks, Bob
Wow...great digital work! Love it when personal style meets classic look, hope to see the final project!
Found these pics whilst deleting some out of my phone today. Nice to see it with the roof off again. Hopefully I'll get back to it soon.
How about this 41 in Sweden that is a tribute to the Coachcraft 41. Wow. Both these cars were derived from Sixty Specials.
This is great. Jay and Michael Simcoe, he’s an Aussie too. How come to don’t know him?
https://youtu.be/LgMZDC-mK08