A friend of mine told me he had just got his car running again after sitting for quite a while. I asked him if he could start it up for me since I have never heard it before. I just uploaded it and it is the best V16 engine sound vid on Youtube. This car is a 1930 with a later engine, 1934. Someone had customized it in the 50's and added a boat tail.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqgKD-TucL4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqgKD-TucL4)
That's a nice sound.
This car too is featured in the Cadillac Database, both in the "Dream Cars" section for 1928-29 and in the V-16 Survivors section for 1934-1937.
Very healthy ;D
Sorry guys but I didn't like it. Sounded like there were no tail pipes and lots of resonance. Also, he didn't rev it. Why not? While I'm at it, IMHO, the rear spare spoils the effect of the boat tail. Bob
Quote from: Bob Hoffmann CLC#96 on October 29, 2009, 06:58:04 PM
the rear spare spoiles the effect of the boat tail
I thought the same thing. I've never seen a boat tail Packard or anything else with a rear spare - always sidemounts. It does defeat the purpose of building a body that looks like a boat.
I'm with Bob.
I was expecting a little action with the throttle plate and to hear, or not hear, as these engines were supposed to do.
The custom rework is also not to my liking, but so what.
David
"Custom" is in the eyes of the "customizer", and not always in the eyes of the beholder. Since this was a video to be downloaded, and I'm on dial-up, I didn't want to tie up my computer for half an hour, just to hear a car that alreday has dual exhausts, but no mufflers.
Sort of interesting. The sight of a Cadillac V-16 is not a common one. Many people in this country will; never see one, and many others don't believe that there ever was one. But, the very ownership of such a vehicle is an experience that so few of us can have. I view it as exceptional.
But, of those owners, the very exceptional nature of the vehicle is still insufficient. The impressiveness of so superlative an artifact needs to be intensified by demonstrating its ability to make greater noise than its owners wanted to hear.
Again, I didn't see or hear the video clip. Was it done in a trailer park?
Gosh, what a bunch of snobs on this forum.
"Again, I didn't see or hear the video clip. Was it done in a trailer park? "
Would you feel more at home if it was done in a trailer park?
Pat
I think it sounds great to me. Nothing sounds better to me than 8+ cylinders of uncatalytic converted glasspacked exhaust . I love it.
Quote from: bill henry on November 02, 2009, 07:26:29 AM
I think it sounds great to me. Nothing sounds better to me than 8+ cylinders of uncatalytic converted glasspacked exhaust . I love it.
I agree, I am fascinated by the sounds of different engine configurations. The difference in sound between a straight 8 and a V8, or a Ferrari V8 vs. a Flathead V8. But a V16 is something completely different, and stock they are whisper quiet, so it is nice to hear what it actually sounds like.
As far as the styling I agree with most everyone above. In fact I think the current owner feels the same way. But if you were to go back in time and slap everyone who customized in bad taste you would have a very sore hand! Whats done is done, it is what it is and it is still a V16 Cadillac and I can still appreciate it.
I liked it very much, and the Camera Microphone doesn't do it justice.
I wouldn't mind both those cars in my garage.
Bruce. >:D
PS. What is a Cadillac site without a few "Snobs"? ;)
PPS. The V16's I have heard are way too quiet, but when one has so many cylinders, one doesn't have to flaunt it. ;D
I enjoyed it. I wish they had opened the hood so we could see the engine. Those V16's were a thing of beauty!
I have a '37 Cad V-12 and purchased a new SS exhaust system having two mufflers that I am about to install. After hearing the tape I think I made a big mistake but I can't just leave $800.00 on the floor. I wish I had invested in a glasspack. When I was in highschool back in '58 I had a '49 Lincoln having a '51 V-8 and ,yep, a glasspack and I loved that sound. It was not loud but the sound was great. I'm putting a lot of money into this restoration and it still will not be close to museum quality. I will bring the car up to my own standard and enjoy it. The next person can take it to the moon with his bankroll if he desires and think about every bolt being "authentic". If that is what he wants to do I'm fine with that too, but I will make a few minor changes that I can and will truly enjoy. At times I have lived in less than a trailer park in my early years. For now I live in a nice house, but I still enjoy the sound of older engines and find nothing wrong with a good muffler system and the wonderful "noise" some of them make.
Ty Stinson
CLC22330
Response to Tom. Before I make anymore comments, I have a question. Does that car have tail pipes to the rear of the car, or is there just short pipes coming out of the mufflers? Thanks, Bob
Quote from: Bob Hoffmann CLC#96 on November 03, 2009, 12:12:10 PM
Response to Tom. Before I make anymore comments, I have a question. Does that car have tail pipes to the rear of the car, or is there just short pipes coming out of the mufflers? Thanks, Bob
Bob, I'm not sure where the exhaust exits. I met the guy through a friend to buy parts for my 38. He had a 38 V8 convertible that was undergoing a concours restoration. Unfortunately his garage burned down with the car in it! The cause was an air compressor motor that turned on in the middle of the night and malfunctioned.
He had bought a 4-door V8 38 just for the floor boards for the convertible and he sold me some parts off it. I got the seats, radio, door panels and headlights. He's a good guy, but I think there is a lesson for those of us with collections, installing a sprinkler system is not that expensive compared to what we spend on our cars.
Stinson, thanks for your comments, I agree.
Real cool!
Yes I wish the video included some further "testing" of that baby!
Hello Bob,
You would be pleased to know that I have installed the complete new SS exhause system, two new SS mufflers and all. Well, it is quiet, sounds good when you get close enough to hear it, everything fits like it was made for the car because it was made by Waldons.........but they are not glasspacks! Ha, ha, but is is okay and when the SS wears out in my next 30 years or so then it will be glasspacks!.
Ty Stinson
CLC22330
Quote from: Tom Magdaleno on November 04, 2009, 01:43:36 PMUnfortunately his garage burned down with the car in it! The cause was an air compressor motor that turned on in the middle of the night and malfunctioned.
My wife asked me why I unplugged the compressor and drained it at night. Now I feel good for doing it, and she read the post.
BTW. I'd just about kill to have the beautiful machine in my garage. But I have 2 of my own that keep me more than busy for now.
Fins
I was wondering, and JUST wondering at this point...but my car has single exhaust, as do most 1968 CdV's from the factory. (Was dual exhaust even an option? Cuz I don't see where they would have run the other pipe under the car.)
Anyway, I have heard glass packs on plenty of dual exhaust cars, but I don't know what ONE would sound like on a single exhaust car...worth the effort? And, after the muffler, we have resonators on our cars. What would THAT sound like? Anyone?
(My car sounds OK...really quiet, but the muffler is slightly damaged and has a small leak. Looks like the previous owner hit something with it and snagged a corner of the muffler and it's kinda bent and mis-shapen. Resonator and pipe is all OK, I was just thinking if I'm gonna replace the muffler anyway...It would be nice to have a bit of that deep exhaust note)
G'day Steve,
I think the last Cadillac to have Dual Exhausts in the older models was the 1960. After that, Single Exhaust was the norm, even up to at least 1969 that I know of. My '72 Eldorado even has Single Exhaust, so I wouldn't be surprised if '70 and '71 were the same. Someone will be able to fill in the other years when everyone wakes up.
Cadillac was more interested in quietness than performance.
Bruce. >:D
Hi Bruce...
Ahhh...so the single exhaust was done for the sake of quietness. Makes sense. I have seen some of these cars at cruise-ins with dual exhaust, so I'm assuming that it was customized by the owner.
Any idea of how much, if any, performance would be gained by going to dual exhaust? I know on a smaller car (Camaro, etc) it makes a measureable difference...but on a 4800 lb, 19 1/2 foot long vehicle that should be sporting a postal code instead of a license plate, is it worth the effort and expense?
And again, what does one glass-pack sound like?