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Title: WTB 1937 Cadillac Front & Rear Bumper Emblems
Post by: Dan Sibila on December 08, 2010, 07:07:06 AM
Hi everyone,

Looking to obtain front & rear bumper emblems for my 1937 Cadillac 7519.  Any leads are appreciated!

Dan
CLC Member
Title: Re: WTB 1937 Cadillac Front & Rear Bumper Emblems
Post by: Classic on December 08, 2010, 06:40:31 PM
The round emblems/medallions are the same as used on the wheel covers, and are available from Hirsch, Cooper's, McVey, etc.  The stamped steel ridged plates that they mount to, which bolt to the bumper, are not readily available as far as I know.  I did hear a few years ago a rumor that someone had cast some out aluminum, but that's all I know.  Perhaps another member will know.
Title: Re: WTB 1937 Cadillac Front & Rear Bumper Emblems
Post by: Stinson on December 08, 2010, 11:14:57 PM
I would also like to purchase the two good plates (stamped steel ridged plates) and two good pumper guards. Can't find them, but know about Hirsh having the medalions. Also, need one of the clips welded to the bumper, used to bolt the bumper to the car frame.
Ty Stinson
CLC22330
Title: Re: WTB 1937 Cadillac Front & Rear Bumper Emblems
Post by: Dan Sibila on December 09, 2010, 10:46:07 AM
Gene,

Thanks for the information!

Ty,

Good luck as well!



Dan
Title: Re: WTB 1937 Cadillac Front & Rear Bumper Emblems
Post by: Stinson on December 09, 2010, 03:33:14 PM
Hello Dan,
You have a great looking car. Is it original (a survivor)?
Ty Stinson
CLC22330
Title: Re: WTB 1937 Cadillac Front & Rear Bumper Emblems
Post by: harvey b on December 09, 2010, 03:45:42 PM
Hi Dan,one thing to watch for if you buy the repro medallions,i was told that the mounting pins are not the same as the originals,the placement of them is different,if you mounted them in the plate in the bumper they would be at about 2 o,clock position as opposed to 12 o,clock where they should be?,I have personally not seen the repros up close so i cant verify it.However if you did get some that were like that,they could be used on the hubcaps,would not matter how they point there?,again this is something i have heard about,if buying them at a flea market or some place,make sure you measure them,i once bought a pair that i was sure they were for a 37,turns out they were for a 55,they were to big of a diameter to fit my car,The pic i have attached shows the 55 style,they look very close but are too big. HTH Harvey

Harvey Bowness
Frenchfort PEI
Title: Re: WTB 1937 Cadillac Front & Rear Bumper Emblems
Post by: Dan Sibila on December 09, 2010, 05:37:41 PM
Hi Ty,

Thank you for the compliment.  The car exterior and interior is from my understanding original.  The back end needed replaced and was done so with a '38 which was not an exact fit but the prior owner, a machinist by trade, clearly knew what he was doing.  He also rebuilt the engine and added a switchable 6 volt fuel pump near the tank and an AMSOIL oil filter system.  This ca is as smooth and powerful as I could imagine it ever being!  The glass is delaminating pretty good in the back window and there is door sag as well as the wood moulding is loose due to rubber dry rotting etc, etc.  Overall, she is my favorite 20-footer!   Looked at your V-12 engine rebuild and it is amazing.  Keep us updated on the 85 Series!


Hi Harvey,
Thanks for the detail on the medallions.  Very helpful!  If anyone has any schematics on the actual plate holding the medallions I have a long cold winter to work on recreation!  There clearly is some demand for these. 


Regards,
Dan
Title: Re: WTB 1937 Cadillac Front & Rear Bumper Emblems
Post by: Stinson on December 09, 2010, 08:03:59 PM
Hello Dan,
Unless someone can lend you a very good example to use, I would be glad to send my two for you to look at regarding a pattern. They are too bad to chrome plate, but could be used as a pattern. I could send photos if you would like to see them first.
Ty Stinson
CLC22330
Title: Re: WTB 1937 Cadillac Front & Rear Bumper Emblems
Post by: John Tozer #7946 on December 12, 2010, 12:33:07 AM
Ty,

I have a pair of bumper/over-riders in very good condition if they will help.

John Tozer
#7946
Title: Re: WTB 1937 Cadillac Front & Rear Bumper Emblems
Post by: Stinson on December 12, 2010, 11:28:54 AM
Hello John,
I would like to purchase them if you would like to sell them. Or, are you offering them as a pattern? Because this is not my original thread, Dan should have the first opportunity to purchase them. I would buy them.
Many thanks,
Ty Stinson
CLC22330
Title: Re: WTB 1937 Cadillac Front & Rear Bumper Emblems
Post by: John Tozer #7946 on December 12, 2010, 05:43:33 PM
Ty,

I thought Dan only wanted the centre badges and badge plate (with the corrugated ends). These are the bumper over-riders but I see from the photo that he seems to be missing these too. I have two sets - one obviously from the front of a car that have a single hole (about 3/8") drilled in one side - appears to have been for a light or water bag bar of some sort - the other set are clean.

Let me know,


Regards,


John Tozer
#7946
Title: Re: WTB 1937 Cadillac Front & Rear Bumper Emblems
Post by: Stinson on December 12, 2010, 08:11:46 PM
Hello John,
Dan and I may both want the same things. I would like to have a very clean set of bumper overides (the single verticle units having one bolt each through the bumper) and I need two of the corrugated plates that the badges attach to. I think Dan intends to make these corrugated plates from a pattern and may purchase the badges from Hersh.
Ty Stinson
CLC22330
Title: Re: WTB 1937 Cadillac Front & Rear Bumper Emblems
Post by: Dan Sibila on December 13, 2010, 02:20:41 PM
Hi John and Ty:  I need the entire plate as I have nothing there.

Sounds like Ty and I are after the same thing.  Obviously prefer purchase over reacreation.  Let's figure this one out.  Will contact you individually via email later tonight.

Thanks!
Dan

P.S.  Attached a close-up to help understand the missing part.
Title: Re: WTB 1937 Cadillac Front & Rear Bumper Emblems
Post by: Stinson on December 20, 2010, 03:25:53 PM
Hello Dan,
Merry Christmas, and I hope all is going well. I have not heard from you. Apparently John plans to make these plates to sell, so maybe we are in luck.
Ty
CLC22330
Title: Re: WTB 1937 Cadillac Front & Rear Bumper Emblems
Post by: Phil Taylor on December 21, 2010, 09:20:43 AM
Are we speaking of the center "Cadillac" plate and Bumper Guards?  I may have some guard that arn't in the best shape, but will require some "Digging" if you know what I mean ;-)  As for the Center Plates, only the digging will determin that.....

Phil
Title: Re: WTB 1937 Cadillac Front & Rear Bumper Emblems
Post by: John Tozer #7946 on December 21, 2010, 04:54:57 PM
Hi Phil,

I have a feeling that centre plate (and mayne even the bumper bar itself) is off a later year model but just in case, what model is your car?

Regards,


John Tozer
#7946
Title: Re: WTB 1937 Cadillac Front & Rear Bumper Emblems
Post by: Phil Taylor on December 21, 2010, 11:01:17 PM
I wasn't sure if there was a big change betweem 37 v 38  Mine is a 38 6119.

Phil
Title: Re: WTB 1937 Cadillac Front & Rear Bumper Emblems
Post by: Bob Hoffmann CLC#96 on December 22, 2010, 01:06:18 AM
Phil, Your bumpers fit 38 cars only. Much different than 37. The plates are called escutcheon plates & fit all 38 & 39 cars. I thought someone reproduced  them.
HTH, Bob
Title: Re: WTB 1937 Cadillac Front & Rear Bumper Emblems
Post by: Phil Taylor on December 22, 2010, 11:36:18 AM
Looked up some pictures of 37's    Big Difference.......   Learn something every day

Phil
Title: Re: WTB 1937 Cadillac Front & Rear Bumper Emblems
Post by: Steve Passmore on December 27, 2010, 03:44:25 PM
The reference to someone making these 37 plates in alloy may have been referring to me in my past restoration topic, I was missing a plate and had one cast and chromed , the finished item for logistical reasons is slightly thicker, unnoticeable when on the car.
Title: Re: WTB 1937 Cadillac Front & Rear Bumper Emblems
Post by: Dan Sibila on January 04, 2011, 09:36:36 AM
Happy New Year everyone.  Sorry for the end of year delay!  Surprise big project and needed R&R!  Still looking to get the plates.  Will be sending email out soon to those parties that are in the know!

Thanks,
Dan S