ok, so i did it ........i purchased this Eldo. doesnt seem to need much (not here yet) the one thing i would like to do
is convert the front bench to buckets and console. found the buckets and console from a 1970 but they are in rough shape.
am i crazy or just a hopeless dreamer. also what do you think this conversion would entail????
also, the original interior is in pretty good shape.
looking forward to hearing your opinions
thanks
Dj
Congratulations on your 69 Eldorado! I like the color and condition.
I don't think the conversion to buckets would involve much work if you had the seats and console, but I have seen the posting of the 70 you are referring to on Ebay, and because it has been in a flood combined with apparent condition in the photos, I wouldn't use those seats. There is probably decent corrosion on most of the components under the leather, and the console looks pretty rough. Plus, your interior looks great, and green cloth isn't something you see too often in that condition.
If you want buckets, Id keep looking for a batter set.
Congrats on your purchase! It will be nice to have another 67-70 Eldo owner with us!
I think i will leave well enough alone. the interior is in great shape and to
disturb what is a great interior is just not right. i think i will stick with the usual changes and
upgrades. (new Carb, The ac may need some upgrades )
I am also going to change the Hubcaps to the 67-68 style (they look soo much nicer)
Im gonna change the Standing hood ornament back to the factory style (on the hood)
and i am searching (hi & lo) for original rubber floor mats.
Also thinking about stripping the vinyl top & converting her to a slick top (again it looks much nicer)
and the vinyl tops are a water but originality is the way to go now a days
not sure what that would entail...but if i get her painted i may go that route
Dave, i have been following your resto and cant wait till it gets here to see what she really needs
stay tuned.....
I'd keep the vinyl top. These Eldos wear them very well. Especially on that colour car. Although a white top would just as nice.
I agree with you on the wheel covers. I don't think the 69-70 covers were a big improvement. The 67-68 style is much sportier looking. I like stand up hood ornaments too. I wish mine had one. There is nothing nicer than seeing that crest at the end of the hood.
@ Dave.. i like the stand up hood ornament but to keep it original with the caddy symbol on the front is the way i may have to go (im kind of a purist like that) i think a previous owner had a bug shield installed and thats why the hood is kinda damaged.
The 67=68 hubcaps is a definate.
and i wont change the color of the vinyl top. if anything im gonna pull it off and sand the top and make it a NON vinyl top car.
it just looks better and cleaner to me.
we will see......still not here not yet.......waiting on the shipper to get her here safely.
cant wait.. will keep u posted..
also here's a pic of the data plate. cant quite figure out
what the month of manufacture (maybe u guys can help ) i think its a 3 for march of 1969
but cant really tell
dj
Any updates?
Nice unique Eldorado for sure.
The build date on your plate is partially obscured- the "E" denotes the 5th week of the month that is obscured by a piece of grease or something. It would rear 01E for Jan, 12E for December etc.
Good Morning
Updates for the 69 ELDO. The car was in better condition than i expected. needs a front headlights and a front parking light for the passenger side. the bumper corner has some rusty scratches (not too bad) no interior lights work. radio works but antenna didnt go up so just static. one window doesnt work and the power locks dont work. runs suprisingly quiet with a small leak near the manifold. the engine is pretty clean and dry. needs some love but is in pretty good shape overall. I covered her up because right now I am too busy to deal with her (tears falling as i type....) but hopefully this weekend i can post some new pictures. I will be asking alot of questions as i go ....so ..GET READY....
DJ,
The antenna is not fully automatic.
To put the antenna up you need to push the tuner knob on the radio in. To put it down you pull the knob out.
Here is another picture
We need a "Like" button. ;D
This car keeps suprising me. it is good condition. The Antenna does work with the radio buttons but still just static. Its an AM radio with a seperate FM tuner under the dash. Not sure what's going on there, but I am glad the Antenna works. The interior lights appear to be fuse's (headed to Auto palace today) We will see if that solves that problem. The windshield wipers were disconnected under the hood. Once i plugged it in i figured out why........THE WINDSHIELD WIPERS ARE CRAZY......once turned on they wouldnt stop..and they would be on high speed (don't know if the button is stuck or what) need some guideance on that one if any one has advice. The engine runs real strong and the car is wicked quiet...... appears to be the original style exhaust hookup with one small leak near manifold (not bad tho) I was also suprised with a tissue dispenser under the dash and a Compass in the glove box and a 69 shop manual.....THE BAD......Cracked front parking lens.. some pitting on mirror and taillights..a few spots of rust here and there and the biggest pain is NO TITLE..... this may be a problem here in Massachusetts ...not sure yet. once my mechanic comes by to check it out we will see what else needs attention
There are several ways to solve the no title problem.
For example I can register a car here in Washington with a simple bill of sale but do not get actual title for 3 years. Other states have similar laws. The waiting period is in case it is discovered that the car is stolen of course.
In some states are no titles for older cars, just registration. For a fee companies like "Mainly Title" based in Maine they will go through the hoops of registering the car in their state in your name and the registration will be recognized in your state as a title because Maine does not register older cars. It is a little complicated because they have to buy insurance in your name and register the car and then cancel the insurance. I did this on a motorcycle I bought on eBay and as I recall it cost about $300.
I hope the price you paid considered the no title situation
You can find some companies with Google that provide this service.
You should be able to find the front lens on Ebay.
If I recall correctly, the FM tuner only worked if you had the AM radio set to a particular station. If you turn off the FM tuner you should be able to dial in some AM stations on the factory radio.
Where in Mass are you? I'm in Hartford, CT.
Dave
ok, i will check the radio today to see if i can get something.
I Think im gonna go with the 1970 lenses because of the extra
caddy engraving on the front. If i can find a nice set.
we will see. waiting on the mechanic to give it the once over.
also, any guidance on the windshield wipers. ??? the motor is good
and the arms work so it must be something in the switch box that makes
them go nuts everytime you turn them on???
let me know
Im in the New Bedford area "the Gateway to Cape Cod"
The interior lights work now with new fuses. I was able to catch one AM station
this car runs/drives like a Caddy should. very smooth
excellent pick up and decent stop.
I usually buy these to sell them but this one may be hard to let go
Here are some better pictures with a better camera
and one more. notice the crust around the front edge of the hood.
a prior owner had a bug shield that caused that. that is probably next on the agenda
All fixed! Well, with photoshop. LOL Looks great!
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David:
I have a parts car that I want to sell. This car is a little rusty. How much do you charge for your "restoration services"? (Grin)
@ DJohnson: I see you found a set of 67-68 wheelcovers. Nice!
@ Bill Hedge: No problem Bill, email a photo and I'll photoshop on some more rust for you! Ha!
Wow Dave, you just blew my mind with that one..........
if i keep this car im gonna give my wife your number so
she can stop bitching at me. (its all Dave's fault that i kept the
car...he photo shopped it ....and i, uh, uhmm... well u get my point)
this car is quickly becoming the "other Woman"
and yes i found the 67-68 hubcaps on
craigs list. not a perfect set but they'll do for now. Also
found a NOS front floormat. but no rear... the hunt continues
gotta find the front lenses (hopefully a good 1970 set)
and a bumper corner. i still cant believe how quiet she is
also, what do you think about the stand up hood ornament.
not sure that i like it yet...if i cant find the factory set up
it may have to do
LOL Yes, old cars can be just expensive as a mistress! LOL But just as much fun. :)
I like stand up hood ornaments. I am trying to restrain myself from adding one when I have my hood repainted later.
I think the eldos look good with or without them. The design is clean enough that the flush mounted type looks good. But I do miss seeing one out on the hood from the drivers seat.
I like the 67-68 wheelcovers. It is funny how the design dates the car. It is a shame that the 69-70 went to a less sporty looking wheelcover. But I guess they were moving towards a more Luxury.
Did you see this one on Ebay with the white letter tires?
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Here is a post card featuring the 69 Eldorado. It shows it with the optional radial tires. The bias ply had the dual stripes.
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David,
That's an interesting photo of the 69 with radials. I have the 70 Cadillac data book, but I don't remember seeing a radial option. Do you know if this was a one year option until they became available again later?
DJohnson,
I like the factory Cadillac hood emblem location on these cars, but hood ornaments don't look bad on them. I will never switch my 70 to a stand up ornament, but if you like yours as is, I'd keep it that way. As long as you can't see the same logo twice in the same plane, I think it works.
Thanks Aaron. it is growing on me. but i think the factory style makes the car look more sporty. if i find the right set up i think i may switch it back to the original. have to find three pieces (the hood spear, the wreath and the crest)
Also if you have the 1970 data book i was wondering what percentage of 69 eldo's were Rampur Green (the 70 book has the stats for the previous year) im trying to figure out how rare was this color back then. It may be listed as Glenmore green..not sure.
let me know when you have a chance. I wish Cadillac had the "marti reports" like Ford
djohnson,
The data book lists 1970 colors, then lists the quivalent percentage of models made in the closest comparable color offered in 1969 but does not list the 1969 color names. I don't see Rampur Green listed in the 70 book, but I do remember seeing it on what I think was a post Sedan deVille in the 69 brochure, and Glenmore Green is the closest color I can find to Rampur Green. According to the 70 Cadillac data book, 4.07% of 69 Eldorados were made in the Glenmore Green equivalent. Bayberry is another dark green/olive 70 color, and that was on 6.99% of 69 Eldorados, although I'm not sure what the 69 variation of that color was called. Nottingham Green is the bright firemist option for 70 with no 69 equivalent listed.
According to the May 1970 issue of Cadillac Serviceman, a color called Lanai Green was added to replace Monarch Burgundy, but I think Lanai Green was comparable to 1969's Palmetto Green, a light silver-green. No other green hues were listed. I hope this helps.
Aaron
Ok Aaron (my brothers name by the way) Rampur green and glenmore are probably the closest. both are Dark Forest green type. i get confused with the data books. it seems as if the previous years numbers are placed on the new color names. whatever. just trying to figure out its rarity on the 69 model run. its definately not bayberry or notingham and you are correct Lanai green is light (sometimes called celery green). hey that helps for now. cant find the data book on line (only 1968)
thanks for your help. again I WISH CADDY HAD THE MARTI REPORT FOR ELDORADO LIKE FORDS.... maybe we can start one.....Hmmmm might be a good idea....don't think GM has the records like FORD.....but it would be a great idea. and im sure a very profitable one.....
Also what was the rarest color on that list. I bet it was either Chateau Mauve or Briarwood firemist???? let me know the numbers
thanks
I didn't see a Briarwood listed for 69, did you mean Chalice Gold firemist?
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Chateau Mauve
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and Wisteria
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Dave,
I think briarwood is a 1970 color. (no 69 equivalent) The Chateau Mauve looks great Without the Vinyl Top.
Based on Aaron's numbers from the Data book out of the 23.333 Eldo's built in 1969 only 950 were Rampur Green.
(which makes it kinda rare-I guess) not sure but i think Chateau Mauve or Wisteria were a little "more rare" than that
trying to find the data book on line (not willing to pay $250 bucks for one when the car needs more important things)
Also, your cars twin brother on sale on EBAY as we speak......yours looks waaaayyyyy better.
Quote from: djohnson on April 23, 2012, 05:53:37 AM
Dave,
your cars twin brother on sale on EBAY as we speak......yours looks waaaayyyyy better.
Wow! And it's in Connecticut too! Sure looks like it is the same colour. Although in the right sunlight, Chestnut brown can look similar. That can doesn't look bad. The rear bumper looks pushed up in the center abit. The photos are limited and don't show alot of details, that is always troubling.
It would be fun to cross paths in CT with the twin however.
D. Johnson,
I am not too far from you (about 40 mins) in East Providence, R.I.
See you at the shows soon. Have you joined NERCLC? Their closest show is in Warwick, R.I. in June.
Richard
@Richard. My mom grew up in East Providence RI (Hall st....Near the old Dels Lemonade)
The First show i think im gonna Hit is the museum of transportation in Brookline Ma. May 20th
then the Portsmouth Abbey in Portsmouth Rhode Island (gotta check the date on this one....sometime in June)
Also found a factory Hood set up with the wreath and crest for flush mount on the hood. Also found a parking lens
for the passenger side.
And I also found out that over the four year run that the "dark Forest Green" color (sherwood in 67, Ivanhoe in 68, Rampur green in 69
and Glennmore green in 70) is one of the rarest colors. With only about 4500 over the 4 year run. I know, I know I am a
67-70 Eldo NERD but im ok with that.
I would still like to change this over to Buckets and a console to send the rarity factor over the top
D. Johnson,
They are no longer having the show at the "Abbey." It is replaced due to some sort of expansion at the Abbey and is the one I mentioned in Warwick in June.
Check NERCLC events and it will give you the location. Of course that is about 2 months away, so plenty of time.
Enjoy your beautiful new Eldo!
Richard
So the car is on Ebay and to say the least I am quite disappointed.
over 950 views.....over 60 watchers.....but only 10 bids in the amount of
$2700. is the market that soft? or is ebay not the market that it used to be??
I have seen clunkers get more action than this good example
I want to keep the car anyway so maybe this is a sign...but damn this car is nice
and to see it so low is an insult ......but hey I am keeping the wife off my back
for a little bit (at least she see's that I am trying)
oh well looks as if I will continue restoring her as needed and have
one of the best eldorado's once everything is said and done
I think the market is definately soft. At least for the common man collector. The Barrett Jackson collector still has plenty of money to buy "investments" that they'll never drive.
Working guys like ourselves aren't running out and paying top dollar right now. Disposable money right now is so tight. Restoration is being done in steps, not drop it off and leave a blank check and call me when it will win at Pebble Beach.
Ebay is a fickle place. Sure you get alot of viewers over time, but alot of dreamers and tire kickers too. I placed my 75 Eldo on Ebay twice and bids never came close to my reserve. I ended up selling it off line to a bidder after the auction, and still didn't get my asking price.
These 67-70 Eldorados are finally getting some attention, but I think the market is still suffering from the economy.
Yeah I agree. the right Eldorado's are selling.(low mileage ...extra mint .....in the 15k to 20k range) but real nice drivers
for the working man sit on the shelf. Its ok this is one of the best to come thru so I think she's a keeper. I will keep
cleaning her up (that's all she needs is the clean up) and enjoy this one every other sunday or so.
I think im gonna send it to the body shop and clean up the hood & the other 3 or 4 imperfections and then
detail the engine and maybe detail the undercarriage
Ebay at one point was a nice place to sell a vehicle but now is the biggest classic car show in the world.
with a lot of tire kickers and millions of questions from people who aren't even bidding. But it does
provide the national & international exposure.
Have 3 days left. lets see what happens. The reserve is what I think the car is worth and im not
letting it go for anything less than that.
I may start looking for another one for the flip and keep this untill Im dead.....(hopefully another 45 years at least)
Quote from: David Smith on April 18, 2012, 10:39:01 AM
LOL Yes, old cars can be just expensive as a mistress! LOL But just as much fun. :)
Yeah, but your wife will ALWAYS know where you are! Mine helped me build a shop so we could put all our mistresses under one roof. If I'm not in the house, I'm usually out at the shop working on something.
Good morning folks.
So the car didnt sell on EBAY with a high bid of $4000. That means she gets to stay a little longer.
I found the correct hood ornament but still looking for the front spear (if any body wants to sell one?)
Took the windshield wipers console apart and i'm thinking its the switch. going to clean it and all the connectors
and hope for the best.
almost ready for the body shop to get the hood painted. Wish i could afford to get the whole car done but
dont think its happening.
Also seen a NOS passenger side mirror on EBAY for a "Buy it Now" of $750............DAMN $750??
I'm surprised someone hasn't recast a replica of the righthand mirrors for the Eldorado and full size Cadillac. The Ebay prices reflect some pretty hot demand! Way more than I could spend.
i was tempted to buy but I could never explain that one to the wife. She would have my balls in a jar.
also a NOS rear bumper is out there for $ 500
I saw that too. For that kinda money I want it in the original box with the gasket and instructions. Hell, I'd still be queasy paying over $200 for it.
D johnson,
Where did you see the bumper? I looked for it but couldn't find it on Ebay. I saw it last week when it was $600. I need one for my 70, and need to compare the cost of that bumper with replating.
i also saw that on ebay. i have it saved so i can get you the sellers info if needed
just let me know
did this item sell? i couldn't find it. can someone point me to the open/closed listing?
thx
Carl
ITEM DIDNT SELL. HIGH BID WAS SOMETHING LIKE $350.
I HAVE IT MY SAVED FILE IF YOU WANT I CAN TRY TO SEND IT TO YOU
please do
thx
carl
just bought an 8 track player. where is the proper location (under the ashtray or under the glove box..looking for
pictures with the original placement but can;t find one...your help is appreciated.
8 track installed and playing some groovy music.....got the
tissue dispenser right next to it...was an easy install. getting
ready to send it to the body shop and i may pull the bumpers for
a rechrome.....
Took it to out on the road and all I can say is THIS CAR IS TIGHT.
I said it before and i will say it again....Starts/Stops/Runs/Drives/ and
Floats just like a caddy should.... Once it comes out of the shop Im gonna
go another Round with Ebay.......
Also found a set of Black floor mats.....Couldnt find a green back rubber mat
to save my life.
The car is looking good!
I resized the photos for you.
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Thanks Dave, I wish i coulld figure these things out..
Also, Is the hood ornament different on the 67-68 versus
the 69-70? I am having a hard time finding one and
"Honest John's Caddy corner" sent me the wrong one.
so im not sure if there was a difference from year to year.
Right now I have the double caddy symbol....and im not
feeling it.
Let me know when you have a chance
Let me know what they will replate your bumpers for cost wise. (Mine was already done when I got my car) The weak spot on my Eldo was the rectanguler back up light housings.They surround the back up lights) on my 68 Eldorado which were heavily pitted and it ended up costing about $300 bucks delivered to get them redone! So maybe the $500 price for the rear bumper is not out of line if it is in top condition.
On another note,I just bought restored headlight rings for my 1941 Packard and they were (gulp) $561 shipped! So things really seem to go based on cost of chrome and rarity! I could not find another pair anywhere already restored.
am hoping to get both bumpers done for $800 to $1000. When I send
the car to the body shop Im gonna pull them and send them to be done.
If its more than a grand I may leave them alone. I buy these cars
to sell so I gotta try to hold the line. But this one may be a keeper.
So I am treating as if she is staying for the long haul.....
The Chrome and stainless on the 67 thru 70 Eldorados has to be clean
(in my opinion) that is one of the highlights of these cars needs to have
some "bling" to it
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Looking good!
Thanks Dave,
We will see what this round of Ebay will bring....(let us pray)
It is a great car so hopefully it goes to a very good home
I hope it does too. But I'm glad you are helping improve it along the way. Getting the front of the hood painted will help.
Don't forget the 2013 Grand National will be in Boston which isn't far. You can show it there and maybe find a new owner for it.
I had been watching your car on EBay. If you do not sell, try these steps; Somehow the pictures posted there do not do your car justice. I suggest you find a really swanky background to start with. (Straddling a side walk is not good) Then get someone with a great camera to get the best pictures as really bright ighting can cause some cameras to darken the car image. Holding the camera lower will get better shots of the grill and rear end. If you can get some eye candy to help you , so much the better. This car should sell! All the best luck!
Thanks for the advice. However, I find things are not moving on Ebay like they use to. If you look thru the compleated listings. you have many cars which were sold only to be relisted as the buyer was not following thru with the deal. Some cars are listed 3-5 times before they go. Also you see many cars sell during second chance offers well below the original reserve price.
I refuse to "give this car away" it is wayyyyyy toooo nice....... I will keep it and keep restoring it as I go. The ride of this car is amazing. I have owned over 8 of these (67-70 Eldo's) and this one rides and drives the best of all. Only wish it had black leather interior...but the green cloth is in great shape.
also think i found a green rear floormat....(we will see if this one works) Maybe I will detail the engine while its here. Maybe throw it on stands and Detail the
undercarriage. I have a deadly Obsession with the 67-70 Eldo So whatever she needs she will get so the next owner will have a great vehicle.
And for a hard working , middle class stiff (i know the middle class is almost exticnt and)...I think my driveway is pretty swanky....
I agree, this is too nice a car to "give away". When I suggest upscale surroundings, there is no slam intended as to where you have taken the original pictures. I would say that these cars were associated with the good life and its trappings. Why not place the car in a great backdrop for photos? When I drive my 68, I do get a little "boost" driving a luxury car that even today, turns heads. Yeah, I know it's the car and not me(also an average Joe). I applaud your efforts to keep working on the car. Eldorado's are a bit undervalued, mainly because there are examples out there that are pretty beat. Yours is not one of them.
I agree that a Great background makes a difference and took no offense to your comment.
And i apologize if it came off that way. These cars were trendsetting and influenced a lot of
american cars from 71-80. (grand prix, toronado, thunderbirds. lincolns, etc) and one day
the will get their just due.
I do think the market is still soft. With the economy and unemployment where it is, not to mention gas is still too damn expensive, I think the average Joe car collector is hurting. The Barrett Jacksom crowd will always have plenty of money to keep buying and selling for their huge collections of over-restored cars.
I agree that large photos in nice settings do help sell cars. Although your listing is fine to me. I think we are talking in general. I watch internet auctions daily. I have seen some really nice cars with small, mediocre photos get relisted over and over. And often at a reasonable price. A few of those cars were relisted by a broker in Lakeland Florida and relisted for double the original asking price. How? They detail the heck out of the car and take an amazing amount of detailed photos of the cars in a pleasant setting. So sometimes it pays to consign your car thru someone like that who can get top dollar for you.
This 75 Fleetwood has been on Ebay at least three times over the last few years up in Detroit. The original photos were small and the car was sitting in a backlot of an innercity building.
The original ad pics:
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Now look at the listing: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NO-RESERVE-ELEGANT-RARE-INTERIOR-1975-Cadillac-Fleetwood-Brougham-45K-MI-/180913409606?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item2a1f478e46 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NO-RESERVE-ELEGANT-RARE-INTERIOR-1975-Cadillac-Fleetwood-Brougham-45K-MI-/180913409606?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item2a1f478e46)
Big difference eh? The guy in Lakeland takes the best photos on ebay! He knows how to pick a setting and how to get the best features on camera. I'd love to send my car down there to get detailed and photographed. I try to save as many of his pics as possible as they make great reference photos for collectors with questions. Not to mention drool over.
But to go back to the original comment, I think your car photographs very well. Especially like the green shrubbery to compliment the cars color. It is a nice car and as you said, no reason to give it away.
David,
Well put and what a change! Hard to believe it is the same car. Even the scary interior came out looking better. It is worth the staging effort if you are going to sell . The market is soft but I too notice the cars that seem to find new homes, have gone the extra mile in staging the surroundings and using better cameras that show the detail on the subject car. In another recent E Bay ad for an Eldorado, the sun angle was so bad that the rear part of the concave trunk lid on a 6x Eldo looked like it was painted black!
With great sadness (and sellers remorse) the car is sold
($5000 no deposit yet...but they assure me its on the way) I dont think I will
ever find another one like this for the price I got it and the condition.
and I am kicking myself for letting it go for that price.
But I buy these to sell them and cant let my emotional
feelings get in the way. I had a connection with this
car that I never had before.....blah blah blah.....
the hunt for
the next one continues..........I found this one (68 Deville convertible)
may be a little too expensive to make a profit
Congratulations! You will get another I'm sure. I also like the 68 converts though hard to find them restored at a good price.
Thanks for the congrats but it feels more like a funeral. This car was great and
and I really could have held out for more, but this is after all a business and the train
has to keep moving. I have already located a couple of other ones that look pretty
good. Its gonna be hard to top this one.
As I said I Have owned a few of these (67 Crystal firemist w/ black interior & headrests. 70 dark walnut w/tan
67 Marina Blue w/blue....just resold on ebay a few months ago.....70 White w/black int & 70 dark green w /black
And this the 69....The best of them all). I usually clean them, make sure they are running in top shape and make
sure all emblems and trim are in place and then sell then on ebay or once in a while will go
with craigslist.
My love of these vehicles is why I do this. I feel these cars are way undervalued compared to toronado's & rivera'a
and hope one day they will be where they need to be value wise.
This 69 was a $7000 - $8000 all night. I feel that I may NOT have helped boost the over all value of the 67-70
Eldo by letting this one go at that price. Its a buyers market right now so it is what it is
Anyway, gonna call this guy on this 1970 Lanai green with black interior and see where he is
on price.
Wow! I have more than $5000 in receipts for work done on mine since I bought it last fall.
I know Dave.....I know........Way to kick a man when he is down (LOL)
Believe it or not I still made a profit. Once the dust settles on this one
the next one is on deck (stay tuned) Also found a nice 79 Seville that
Im thinking about. (sunroof & digital Dash) BUT I have heard the
digital dash cars are a problem. But its the 67-70 ELDO that is my main
focus. As I said its a deadly obsession.
I must hand it to you in buying the car right to begin with. A profit is a word I hear very little. Like Dave Smith, I am in investment and repairs, way over any realistic sales price I could get >>but that all slides to the back of my mind when I make a 100 mile round trip drive to Lake Geneva Wisconsin. My 68 is such a fine road commander.