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Title: 1931 V12 REAR END GEARS
Post by: Cord1930 on September 02, 2014, 02:53:12 PM
Hi.   I am looking at replacing the rear end gears in my 31 Cadillac V12.  Dose anyone have any suggestions that can get me to a 3.1 or maybe a 3.5 gear ratio that can easily bolt on.  Did anyone in the club make lower gear ratios, that may still be for sale.  Any leads appreciated.   Thanks
Title: Re: 1931 V12 REAR END GEARS
Post by: Classic on September 02, 2014, 07:40:43 PM
Phil Bray (ORF Corp.) was the go-to person for high-speed rear ends (Packard's, Cadillac's, Duesenberg's, etc.).  Unfortunately he passed away last April.  But you can contact his wife Carol at 734-676-5520.  I'm sure she will be able to tell you who has taken over Phil's business.  Be careful not to go to too low a ratio, which can cause startability problems, especially on hills.  85% of the original ratio is probably a good guideline, but in any event, not lower than 80%.  Others chime in if you have a different opinion.
Title: Re: 1931 V12 REAR END GEARS
Post by: Classic on September 02, 2014, 07:58:47 PM
Another option is to install an overdrive.  Gear Vendors is a popular brand.  https://www.gearvendors.com/custom.html (https://www.gearvendors.com/custom.html)
Some people prefer the R10 Borg Warner overdrive.
Title: Re: 1931 V12 REAR END GEARS
Post by: Mike Baillargeon #15848 on September 02, 2014, 08:16:13 PM
I also thought of the overdrive route but, I think you'll have to do some monkeying around with the drive shaft tube to get it to work. 

But once its in, it will be the answer , you'll have those tall gears to get the 6000 lbs rolling and then shift to overdrive to cruse.   It does sound sweet!

Mike
Title: Re: 1931 V12 REAR END GEARS
Post by: Bob Hoffmann CLC#96 on September 02, 2014, 09:37:23 PM
Guys,
When it comes to rear end ratios, things are opposite.
A high ratio is a low number.
A low ratio is a high number.
Tall gears are high ratio,
Stump pullers are low ratio.
HTH, Bob
Title: Re: 1931 V12 REAR END GEARS
Post by: Wayne Womble 12210 on September 02, 2014, 10:01:44 PM
I have a stump pulling 4:90 if any one needs it.  ;D
Title: Re: 1931 V12 REAR END GEARS
Post by: Bob Hoffmann CLC#96 on September 02, 2014, 10:36:21 PM
Wayne,
Knock 20 % of the teeth off & turn it into a 3.90. LOL!
So... do you agree with my post?
Bob
Title: Re: 1931 V12 REAR END GEARS
Post by: Wayne Womble 12210 on September 03, 2014, 09:43:52 AM
Bob, that would be how you write that number.   Written as 411 it would be high, but as 4/11 it would be low.  >:D  But we are talking about ratios 3/11 is a higher number than 4/11, but is that a lower ratio or not?

I agree with you, we always called a stump puller a low ratio.