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Title: Battery Originality
Post by: Whit on May 10, 2017, 07:01:30 AM
On the question of 'originality' and the battery. I have a 1960 Biarritz that I'm finishing restoring to be as 'original' as 'practical' (underline practical). I wonder about the battery...do I use a modern high quality battery...a fake tar-top battery...a real tar-top battery (hard to come by)??? I don't know how judges grade these cars, and I don't know if it will ever be graded, but if so how will the battery be treated scoring wise? I'm sure Chuck Patton will check in and maybe others.
Just curious...

Whit
Title: Re: Battery Originality
Post by: Dan LeBlanc on May 10, 2017, 07:38:37 AM
Your car should be equipped with a group 60K Delco battery.

I got mine from Restoration Battery (www.restorationbattery.com).  These guys use an AGM battery inside of a reproduction case unlike their competitors who still use a flooded lead acid battery.  The Restoration Battery will not leak acid like a conventional battery so your battery tray and any surrounding finishes will be preserved.

A non-authentic battery is subject to a 3 point authenticity deduction.
Title: Re: Battery Originality
Post by: 59-in-pieces on May 10, 2017, 10:30:17 AM
What Dan said.

If you don't drive the car much - like winter - you can get the "right tender" to keep it charged.

Size: 13” long X 6-1/2” Wide X 9” High.

Have fun,
Steve B.
Title: Re: Battery Originality
Post by: Chuck Swanson on May 10, 2017, 10:38:54 PM
http://www.antiqueautobattery.com/  w/ free date code.  All have AGM inside as I have not seen the ones where you add distilled water in 8+ years.  AGM inside.  Chuck
Title: Re: Battery Originality
Post by: Dan LeBlanc on May 11, 2017, 07:55:20 AM
Quote from: Chuck Swanson on May 10, 2017, 10:38:54 PM
http://www.antiqueautobattery.com/  w/ free date code.  All have AGM inside as I have not seen the ones where you add distilled water in 8+ years.  AGM inside.  Chuck

These guys have the 1957-68 battery incorrectly as a group 27D or a 60K.  The 60K is the correct battery for your application.

Group 27 footprint does not fit the battery tray as well as the 60K
Title: Re: Battery Originality
Post by: Scot Minesinger on May 11, 2017, 08:59:29 AM
I have used those batteries in Cadillacs I drive frequently (4k miles per year) and they last a year and half, same experience as my friends.  After about three of these batteries, I went back to the standard modern normal battery that is all black and most resembles an original (no bright green ones!). 

Frankly, I'm done installing inferior mechanical components that are made to resemble period correct and intended more for show than use.  This includes hose clamps, tires, batteries and the like. 

If this car is on and off a trailer than the antique battery will be fine.  If it is meant to be driven and you don not mind buying a new one every 18 month then the antique battery will be fine.  By the way these require a special charger, and cannot be jumped.  While a jump will start the car, the battery is ruined and will be worthless in a month.
Title: Re: Battery Originality
Post by: Whit on May 15, 2017, 05:12:11 PM
Thanks to all for the input and lead. I will check it out.

Whit
Title: Re: Battery Originality
Post by: D.Smith on May 15, 2017, 09:01:26 PM
I got one from Restoration Battery for my 1961 Cadillac. 
Not cheap but it looks great.   I've had it almost two years with no troubles.
Title: Re: Battery Originality
Post by: TonyZappone #2624 on May 16, 2017, 06:11:28 AM
I went to Walmart and bought the MAXX27 battery for my '58 convertible (3 year full warranty,5 year pro rata over 800 cold cranking amps).  I stripped off all the Walmart stickers, stuck on one of the authentic size DELCO stickers from the battery guy in Ohio.  Works for me, looks half way right, won't fool a judge.  I could care about the judging.
Title: Re: Battery Originality
Post by: Jon S on May 16, 2017, 12:03:34 PM
I don't have my car judged and bought a J C Penny Lifetime battery back in 1975. They keep replacing it with an Interstate Group 27 for free. I get 9-10 years out of each battery. To keep it looking nice I had some individual letters made for it and bought an incorrect topper. I'm happy:
Title: Re: Battery Originality
Post by: David Greenburg on May 16, 2017, 03:47:34 PM
Wow! A lifetime battery. Not likely to see that deal again!
Title: Re: Battery Originality
Post by: The Tassie Devil(le) on May 16, 2017, 08:56:07 PM
Probably thought that nobody would keep their vehicles that long, and most people would have sold their batteries with the car.   Or simply forgot about the lifetime guarantee.

I purchased my wife a sewing machine in 1991 for the princely sum of $3000.00, and it came with a factory deal that I could recoup the purchase price in ten years time, but had to have the receipt, and had to be claimed within a three month period.

Well, in 2001, despite the company changing suppliers, they honoured the deal, and the $3,000.00 went to helping my wife and I get to tour USA and Canada, which included attending the Dearborn GN.

Turns out that another attendee from Australia had the same deal, and also attended the GN.

I wonder how many buyers of the same sewing machine simply forgot to claim.

Bruce. >:D
Title: Re: Battery Originality
Post by: INTMD8 on May 18, 2017, 11:22:49 PM
Quote from: Dan LeBlanc on May 10, 2017, 07:38:37 AM

I got mine from Restoration Battery (www.restorationbattery.com).  These guys use an AGM battery inside of a reproduction case unlike their competitors who still use a flooded lead acid battery.  The Restoration Battery will not leak acid like a conventional battery so your battery tray and any surrounding finishes will be preserved.


Very nice! I need to get one of those.