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Title: 1959-79 Cadillac 4 Door Convertible Challenge
Post by: Eldorado James on February 18, 2018, 09:54:33 PM
Sunday Night Cadillac Convertible Challenge......

While 4 door convertibles were once popular, they didn't last long in the post WW2 world.  Lincoln carried that banner through the 1960's, while the rest of the US market stayed with 2 door versions.  Let's dream for a moment....what if Cadillac had been a player in that 4 door convertible market?  Luckily, some fun loving Cadillac owners went "topless" so we can see how those cars would have looked. 

Submitted for your critique are several samples of 1959-79 Cadillac sedans in their alternate-universe "convertible-look" form.  Which ones are appealing and which ones are duds?  Let's hear it!  :o ;D

EJ
Title: Re: Cadillac 4 Door Convertible Challenge
Post by: STS05lg on February 18, 2018, 10:03:03 PM
The 1970 is a real factory convertible owned by Scot Minesinger. I believe it is one of six built by Cadillac. Scot may chime in if I have the number wrong. He just finished a frame off restoration, the picture is from years ago. His children are all grown up. Did not want any one to think it was a photoshop creation  :)  :)
Title: Re: 1959-79 Cadillac 4 Door Convertible Challenge
Post by: Eldorado James on February 18, 2018, 10:12:00 PM
Thanks for telling me!  I grabbed the pics off the I-net and a lot of them didn't have any background info.  Small World! 

@Scot -- If you don't want the pic in the Challenge, just let me know and I can pull it.
Title: Re: 1959-79 Cadillac 4 Door Convertible Challenge
Post by: Barry M Wheeler #2189 on February 19, 2018, 09:02:55 AM
I really wonder at the need for some additions. Like "two" coach builder emblems on the front fender of the '62.  And the colors...  Ugh. (Not yours, Scott.)
Title: Re: 1959-79 Cadillac 4 Door Convertible Challenge
Post by: D.Smith on February 19, 2018, 09:08:20 AM
1968
Title: Re: 1959-79 Cadillac 4 Door Convertible Challenge
Post by: 35-709 on February 19, 2018, 09:24:13 AM
"I really wonder at the need for some additions. Like "two" coach builder emblems on the front fender of the '62."

;D ;D  Those are "Mooneyes", the logo from the Moon equipment Co.

https://www.mooneyesusa.com/
Title: Re: 1959-79 Cadillac 4 Door Convertible Challenge
Post by: Barry M Wheeler #2189 on February 19, 2018, 10:58:17 AM
Love their T-shirt...  My old eyes don't have any trouble at all seeing THAT (Those) trademarks!!!  (I may not be able to do much about it these days, but I have a heck of a good memory.) See how you can distract the "internet police"? What were you guys talking about again?
Title: Re: 1959-79 Cadillac 4 Door Convertible Challenge
Post by: Maynard Krebs on February 19, 2018, 01:13:33 PM
This is a pleasant creative thought, of a Cadillac four-door convertible!

I did have a "Brand X" one for a dozen years.. and learned a couple things that might apply to this 'dream'.   Mostly, the need for very serious additional torsional strengthening in the frame (and body).   This would mean definite need for serious engineering, though with today's computers, it would be much easier now than it would have been 'then'.   However, it would still be expensive.   Remember that in the era of the 4-dr. convertible sedan (mid-to-late 1930s), such body-style offerings were always the most expensive in their line (versus all others.. except possibly the woody wagons).

Further, recall also that the '60s Lincolns were uni-body in comparison to Cadillac.   That it itself means two things:  the uni-body is 'naturally' stronger torsionally than a 'separate-body-and-frame' design; BUT it is infinitely easier to modify the latter design than a uni-body.  [Remember that Lincoln went back to 'separate-body-and-frame' in their 1970 models.]

Finally, be aware that even two-door convertibles of at least the 1950s required different exhaust systems to clear the additional steel bracing that an open body car required, compared to a closed one.   Two classic examples of this are a mid-Fifties Chevy.. and a mid-Sixties Imperial.
Title: Re: 1959-79 Cadillac 4 Door Convertible Challenge
Post by: Scot Minesinger on February 19, 2018, 01:22:40 PM
It is great that you put my picture on this post - thanks!  Mine is the dark blue 1970 Caddy with tan garage/white trim in background and my daughter using the rear driver side door to enter - taken specifically to show that this is a four door convertible.  The top folds flat just like a regular 1970 DVC and of course the top is completely operational! 
Title: Re: Cadillac 4 Door Convertible Challenge
Post by: jdemerson on February 22, 2018, 02:45:09 PM
Quote from: STS05lg on February 18, 2018, 10:03:03 PM
The 1970 is a real factory convertible owned by Scot Minesinger. I believe it is one of six built by Cadillac. Scot may chime in if I have the number wrong. He just finished a frame off restoration, the picture is from years ago. His children are all grown up. Did not want any one to think it was a photoshop creation  :)  :)

Somewhere I read a story about these and their history, but I don't recall where. Did CLC SS do a story on them at some point?

John Emerson