Hammer $220,000 + 10% buyer's fee - $242,000. :o :o :o
https://www.mecum.com/lots/SC0518-327057/1961-cadillac-eldorado-biarritz-convertible/
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If this is the 1961 triple green EB from the 2009 GN in Las Vegas (the owner is from Montana, Tom I believe) that won best of show, then it is worth it. It sure looks like it is.
Out of curiosity, can anyone answer whether this the correct steering wheel for this interior? ??? Looks like the wheel for white leather with gray trim...
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Don't know the answer but it does look out of place.
Speaking of "out of place," I was blessed to own a "base 1961" convertible that came into my possession in 1966- through 72 . It had a "bench"seat--- which suit my purposes just fine. The leather pleating ran from side to side, and not fore and aft... I recall that the bench seat in the base model was far more padded... much thicker than the buckets... is this my poor memory or those buckets on par with the base convertible? James
Obviously it takes multiple bidders to produce a result like this. Personally I just don't see this being worth more than 59/60 Eldorado convertibles but I guess someone really wanted this car.
Brian
That car is beautifully done. I know "Tom from Montana" and
I also know who did many of his cars. A first class resto shop
in Florida. Actually, I'm sure Tom had more than $220k in the car --
but that price is quite an achievement.
I'm sure both buyer and seller are happy.
Mike
i like these 61s, i particularly like that lower fin. while i really like 59s, that upper fin lower profile with that lower offset fin on the bottom is really nice line,, at least to my eye.. this car looks good
That steering wheel should be medium blue with dark blue hand grips on each side.
Quote from: 76eldo on May 19, 2018, 07:49:44 PM
Obviously it takes multiple bidders to produce a result like this. Personally I just don't see this being worth more than 59/60 Eldorado convertibles but I guess someone really wanted this car.
Brian
+1
If I had $220k to spend, it wouldn't be on that. I'd get a Superbird.
NADA value. Prior to auction.
So does one sale justify if the chart will change?
Yes, presuming that is the 1961 Eldorado from the 2009 GN and speaking with the owner "Tom from Montana", he did have more than 220k in it, and he explained to me the extensive restoration process. I like the 1961/1962 Eldorados better than the 1959/1960 because of the lower fins and the kind of "bat-mobile" look.
If I had an extra 220k to spend on a classic car, and I was a preservationist (which I am not), this would be appealing. I would rather just get a #2 or strong #3 1961 Eldorado for a 1/3 of that price and drive it.
The steering wheel does look out of place, but not a difficult fix, and just goes to show every car needs something. When I saw the car in 2009 the only thing I noticed was a slight black paint chip on the passenger side hood hinge spring (another easy fix). The car had the hood hinges redone in correct cadmium plating. Very impressive car. The undercarriage is finished as nicely as the exterior body.
Quote from: Scot Minesinger on May 20, 2018, 11:45:30 AM
Yes, presuming that is the 1961 Eldorado from the 2009 GN and speaking with the owner "Tom from Montana", he did have more than 220k in it,
No, restoration costs do not set a cars value. Just because one guy spends $220K on his car doesn't make every nice 61 Biarritz worth $220K.
Quote from: Eric DeVirgilis CLC# 8621 on May 19, 2018, 10:21:08 AM
Out of curiosity, can anyone answer whether this the correct steering wheel for this interior? ??? Looks like the wheel for white leather with gray trim...
(https://cdn1.mecum.com/auctions/sc0518/sc0518-327057/images/04-1522698517914.jpg?1524078974000)
You're right. HOW does someone do that kind of restoration & NOT see that out-of-place wheel?? Next step is a white dash pad.
Bob
Steve, seen this car up close and it is the lighting, engine color is correct, it won best of show at GN 2009.
D. Smith, yes of course what you spend on a car for restoration does not determine value, otherwise all our cars would be worth more. Just agreeing with other contributor that there likely was more than 220k invested.
Bob, yes someone else posted about wrong color steering wheel, easy to fix though.
This is a stunning 1961 Cadillac.
Yes the car has a number of authenticity issues but either went unnoticed by the bidders present, or simply didn't care even if they were.
Cadillac once ran an ad with the headline, "Will you pay the price of a Cadillac and not get one?"
Upon learning the auction result here, the first thing that came to my mind was...Will you pay the price of a 1959, and not get one? ;D
This is a #1 car with a minimal investment (steering wheel color change and generator cooling tube). It was driven on a dynamometer indoors, so it is perfect. It won best of show at GN2009 and was in the custody of a preservationist owner. It is probably the nicest 1961 Eldorado in existence, if I owned it, then I would not drive it, because after a year and 2,000 miles it would probably be worth half of what was paid.
On the pay a 1959 price not get one, remember of course that auction prices tend to by high, especially for perfect condition and/or nice color combo - recall a triple black 1959 Eldorado that had the Fleetwood" chrome caps on the tail fins (incorrect, but looked awesome-I would do that), it was sold for like three and a half.
This is may well be finest '61 Cadillac Convertible in the world. An original 16,000 mile car, it's 100x more desirable than any restoration will ever hope to be.
At less than 1/3 the money just 3 years ago, the selling price of the Biarritz is difficult to justify from a purely analytical standpoint.
Almost anything can happen at an auction as we all know. As far as establishing a benchmark for all 61/62 Biarritz - that's another matter altogether...
https://blog.rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/HF15/Hershey/lots/r257-1961-cadillac-series-62-convertible-coupe/180793
I agree with Eric no restored car is as desirable as an unrestored original or as valuable either. Just my two cents worth. I saw the restored car very nice, but.
Doug 16070
Batting one thousand, I saw the 1961 convertible Eric mentions before it was sold at Hershey a year or two back. It was a real nice car. No ac. As I wrote in my post earlier, rather have a real nice one like this for a 1/3 of the price of the subject of this thread that you can drive.
Steve,
What did that car sell for??
Bob
There comes a point when you have to disregard so-called "Guide" books and other pricing resources when it comes to the very best examples of original preservation.
Cars in this state of condition are extremely rare and can easily bring double the value of their restored counterparts, or even more. This is particularly true for convertibles which are relatively rare to begin with, plus the fact that very few of those managed to survive in high grade condition without significant amounts of cosmetic repairs and restoration.
I've said it many times - you cannot pay too much for the right car.