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Title: Should I Bid???
Post by: 76Caddy on May 22, 2018, 06:22:38 PM
Says it is very "rare" and mostly original.  Thought i would ask before bidding(NOT).

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Cadillac-DeVille-Convertible/142789223763?hash=item213ee6a553:g:ffwAAOSwIJlaJ106&vxp=mtr
Title: Re: Should I Bid???
Post by: Barry M Wheeler #2189 on May 22, 2018, 06:55:50 PM
No rub strip on the sides, no skirts, where do you stop being "mostly original" and go to "major restyling?"
Title: Re: Should I Bid???
Post by: 67_Eldo on May 22, 2018, 07:02:52 PM
I'd hold off. There are some major oddities here.

First of all, the grille is from a 1967. The 67 chrome goes straight across the top of the grille while the 68 hops up a bit on the front of the hood. Google the models at images.google.com to see what I mean.

Also, the steering column has been replaced. It has two gearshift indicators! Along with the funky aftermarket steering wheel, not a good sign.

He's asking on the high side of NADA valuation for a genuine 68. I don't think this car rates anywhere near that valuation. Not without some really good explanations anyway. :-)

Good luck!
Title: Re: Should I Bid???
Post by: Jon S on May 22, 2018, 07:08:37 PM
 The absence of pictures of the engine compartment, interior and trunk leaves many questions requiring answers.
Title: Re: Should I Bid???
Post by: Mike Josephic CLC #3877 on May 22, 2018, 07:13:41 PM
Is that shade of red an original color?  It looks rather
funky to me -- but I'm no expert on 1968.

Mike
Title: Re: Should I Bid???
Post by: Eric DeVirgilis CLC# 8621 on May 22, 2018, 07:37:20 PM
no.
Title: Re: Should I Bid???
Post by: Series75 on May 22, 2018, 07:49:36 PM
I wrote to this dealer about his 1966 for sale.  Major references to "original" but the 1966 Cadillac he is selling has an installed 472 cu in engine.   I don't have time to unravel his logic but his response was something to the effect the car is driver original versus show original.  Ok then.
Title: Re: Should I Bid???
Post by: James Landi on May 22, 2018, 07:59:06 PM
Hi Tim,

I sold three of my Cadillacs on Ebay--- had each of them was marketed through a local Cadillac service department.  THey performed complete fluid flushes and were available to provide prospects with an independent assessment.  I can tell you this by way of summary, all three of the final bidders were mildly disappointed, and not one of them traveled to see the car, but instead relied on pictures, my narrative, and the assessments provided by the service managers.  All this is to say, do yourself a big favor--- avoid disappointment--- if you truly feel you'd love to have a car on Ebay, GO and see, inspect and drive the car.   You simply can not depend on pictures and narratives.  Happy day,   James
Title: Re: Should I Bid???
Post by: Eric DeVirgilis CLC# 8621 on May 22, 2018, 08:17:39 PM
If this is the seller's idea of an "original survivor" I'd hate to imagine his idea of a poor restoration... ::)

There is so much wrong with this car I would not know where to start. Seller is obviously a "pro" in search of a starry-eyed victim - preferably one coming down the steps of the lottery commission, with check in hand.

If a zero was removed from the asking price, I would still request a drive- my only interest being a quick flip with no reserve.

Title: Re: Should I Bid???
Post by: 76Caddy on May 22, 2018, 08:43:19 PM
Hey, I was just kidding about bidding.  Thought some of you might get a grin from it like I did with all the "rare" and "original" things.  We here know "our" Cadillacs and when someone puts one out there for sale and doesn't know a thing about it, I have to smile and say "dumb@#$" who are they trying to fool.  Agree, would NOT buy that one for no amount of money!

Tim
Title: Re: Should I Bid???
Post by: slowpoke17 on May 22, 2018, 10:21:06 PM
What's really sad is there are so many unscrupulous dealers out there that will gladly steel your money with some eye candy like this. I started watching some of these reality car shows and the majority are about somebody trying to reconnect to a family past memory or childhood dream and buys some big money car. Only when its delivered they can't drive it, lifted 4x4 trucks with the steering geometry is all wrong or the suspension is so messed the coil overs hit the rims when you hit a bump, half the frame is rotted and covered with rusty jones ...... The shop of choice is now tasked with trying to make it driveable so the new owner can actually use it. More money spent on a car/truck that you will never recoup.
Title: Re: Should I Bid???
Post by: cadillacmike68 on May 22, 2018, 11:06:03 PM
RUN AWAY!!!

That thing looks Fugly with those rear wheel openings. It looks like not only did they take them out but they made it impossible to ever put them back.



Title: Re: Should I Bid???
Post by: Scot Minesinger on May 23, 2018, 12:39:22 PM
I figured this had to be a joke post, as that car is in my mind a piece of trash.  The modifications, especially the rear wheel openings, color, hood ornament, and steering column are difficult to make them look good let alone restore it to original.  The missing body side moldings is a not good because you will suffer door dings.  Further a black interior is a huge negative for a convertible to me ( I would be very hesitant to ever buy one).  If you inspect and drive the car and it seems good mechanically, then it would be a fun car to take to the beach with the dog and just enjoy an open convertible without concern for cosmetics - value about 5-6k tops in mind if it is mechanically good, if not way less.
Title: Re: Should I Bid???
Post by: David Greenburg on May 23, 2018, 02:57:39 PM
Wow!  Even a “factory original Cadillac cowl tag.”  How exotic! By coincidence I just got a message to call the Boise City Attorney’s office.  I wonder if they are  familiar with this seller.
Title: Re: Should I Bid???
Post by: Series75 on May 23, 2018, 07:18:05 PM
Quote from: 76Caddy on May 22, 2018, 08:43:19 PM
Hey, I was just kidding about bidding.  Thought some of you might get a grin from it like I did with all the "rare" and "original" things.  We here know "our" Cadillacs and when someone puts one out there for sale and doesn't know a thing about it, I have to smile and say "dumb@#$" who are they trying to fool.  Agree, would NOT buy that one for no amount of money!

Tim

So if u had No intention to bid why jerk us around?
Title: Re: Should I Bid???
Post by: Cape Cod Fleetwood on May 23, 2018, 11:48:29 PM
Quote from: Series75 on May 23, 2018, 07:18:05 PM
So if u had No intention to bid why jerk us around?

Negative jerking...
If you re-read the original post it clearly states -
"Says it is very "rare" and mostly original.  Thought i would ask before bidding(NOT)."

\m/
Laurie
Title: Re: Should I Bid???
Post by: 35-709 on May 24, 2018, 01:51:11 PM
You beat me to the punch, Laurie.
Title: Re: Should I Bid???
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 24, 2018, 02:38:04 PM
Quote from: Jon S on May 22, 2018, 07:08:37 PM
The absence of pictures of the engine compartment, interior and trunk leaves many questions requiring answers.

Bottom of the link has a lot more photos.