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Title: idea for 70 fans
Post by: wrefakis on March 07, 2020, 10:57:09 AM
an idea for 70 fans, lets post our best 70 photos be nice to see some real ones, I am in if you are? facebook? clc?
Title: Re: idea for 70 fans
Post by: "Cadillac Kid" Greg Surfas 15364 on March 07, 2020, 12:16:05 PM
This is the only "70" that I have currently. Undergoing a "blueprint" and mild performance enhancement .
Greg Surfas
Title: Re: idea for 70 fans
Post by: 76eldo on March 07, 2020, 12:59:36 PM
70 DeVille with 30,000 miles, all original paint, top, interior, chrome.

70 Eldorado with 15,000 miles, all original paint, top, interior, chrome. Purchased from original owner.
Title: Re: idea for 70 fans
Post by: D.Smith on March 07, 2020, 01:10:53 PM
I have 2,708 photos of 1970 in my archives.    Anything in particular you want to see?
Title: Re: idea for 70 fans
Post by: D.Smith on March 07, 2020, 07:04:19 PM
On October 31st 1969 Los Altos, CA based Dr. Seymour Wallace and his wife became the proud owners of this extremely exceptional 1970 Cadillac Eldorado. Wanting something out of the ordinary, they had ordered the highly unusual color combination of Nottingham Green Firemist with red leather. The paint code (PNT 96) and trim code (TR 488) confirm this is the original color combination. On top of this, the car does not have a vinyl top, contrary to the majority of 1970 Eldorados that left the factory. 
Title: Re: idea for 70 fans
Post by: D.Smith on March 07, 2020, 07:07:07 PM
How about one of each?     

As the 1970 ad tag line said: "You can change your mind eleven times and still be right"
Title: Re: idea for 70 fans
Post by: cadillacmike68 on March 08, 2020, 12:23:49 AM
Where is the V ?  :P
Title: Re: idea for 70 fans
Post by: D.Smith on March 08, 2020, 07:52:38 AM
Quote from: cadillacmike68 on March 08, 2020, 12:23:49 AM
Where is the V ?  :P

Some idiot in marketing decided it was no longer necessary to emphasize the obvious. 

Thankfully buyers complained and the V would return in 72.

It was another mistake in my opinion when they replaced the V with the wreath in the mid eighties on the Devilles. 
Title: Re: idea for 70 fans
Post by: Eric DeVirgilis CLC# 8621 on March 08, 2020, 11:04:30 AM
Quote from: cadillacmike68 on March 08, 2020, 12:23:49 AM
Where is the V ?  :P

No Vs used on Calais/DeVille in '70 & '71 but oversized crests were used on hood/decklid in those years.

Fleetwoods & Eldorado continued to get the wreaths with normal sized crests.
Title: Re: idea for 70 fans
Post by: Scot Minesinger on March 08, 2020, 03:02:58 PM
That no vinyl roof Calais four door hadrtop looks nice, how about a side shot so we can see a no vinyl roof look - very rare.
Title: Re: idea for 70 fans
Post by: D.Smith on March 08, 2020, 06:16:49 PM
Quote from: Scot Minesinger on March 08, 2020, 03:02:58 PM
That no vinyl roof Calais four door hadrtop looks nice, how about a side shot so we can see a no vinyl roof look - very rare.

Close as I could get.
Title: Re: idea for 70 fans
Post by: Bill Balkie 24172 on March 08, 2020, 06:27:52 PM
Here is my car  70 Coupe. De Ville code  54 Byzantine Gold with code 351 Black Leather Interior with Black vinyl Top .  38,000 miles  I am the 2nd owner   
Title: Re: idea for 70 fans
Post by: Brett Baird on March 08, 2020, 06:50:32 PM
My Eldorado
Title: Re: idea for 70 fans
Post by: Bill Balkie 24172 on March 08, 2020, 06:57:34 PM
Hello Brett,
    Your Eldorado is very unique . Red ,no vinyl top with Red interior . Very nice car . Was that ordered from the factory that way ?

       Bill
Title: Re: idea for 70 fans
Post by: Bill Balkie 24172 on March 08, 2020, 07:25:56 PM
Quote from: Scot Minesinger on March 08, 2020, 03:02:58 PM
That no vinyl roof Calais four door hadrtop looks nice, how about a side shot so we can see a no vinyl roof look - very rare.

Scott ,
      I could be wrong all Calais models come without vinyl tops , tops  were an extra .
Title: Re: idea for 70 fans
Post by: 76eldo on March 08, 2020, 09:41:30 PM
Bill,

I love the car and LOVE Byzantine Gold.

My first Caddy was a 70 convertible in those exact colors.  It was certainly not pristine like your car, but to a 19 year old kid it was the coolest ride around.

Brian
Title: Re: idea for 70 fans
Post by: jagbuxx #12944 on March 08, 2020, 10:45:42 PM
Quote from: Bill Balkie 24172 on March 08, 2020, 07:25:56 PM
Scott ,
      I could be wrong all Calais models come without vinyl tops , tops  were an extra .
Vinyl tops did not become available until the 1974 model year for the Calais series.
Title: Re: idea for 70 fans
Post by: Bill Balkie 24172 on March 09, 2020, 07:26:08 AM
Quote from: 76eldo on March 08, 2020, 09:41:30 PM
Bill,

I love the car and LOVE Byzantine Gold.

My first Caddy was a 70 convertible in those exact colors.  It was certainly not pristine like your car, but to a 19 year old kid it was the coolest ride around.

Brian

Thank you Brian ,
        I had the exact same car back in 1973 . I was only 21 years old and every body was selling the big gas guzzler cars because of the gas shortage  at that time  . So i had the opportunity to pick up that Cadillac .  That's when i fell in love with Cadillacs . I seen your Eldorado  and that car has to be seen to appreciate it .Absolutely pristine . Your 70 is Beautiful . I think that is the car you were telling me about removing the Stripe . Although i like the stripe . and believe it or not i like the hood ornament . i put one on my 70 back in 73 .  Finally your 60 convertible is Bad ass . Looks really good with the top up . 60 was a great year .
   
       Bill
Title: Re: idea for 70 fans
Post by: wrench on March 09, 2020, 09:59:42 AM
Just popped the ‘70 Eldorado out of the barn and drove it around this weekend. Nice weather and no salt on the road, well except they salted north of me, fortunately I saw that before I went out in the Eldorado so I headed south, and East and West instead!

Gonna drive it around today, too. I replaced the steering wheel inlay yesterday.


Title: Re: idea for 70 fans
Post by: wrefakis on March 09, 2020, 10:52:29 AM
Last Deville Convert
vin F0338723
Last 70 cad B0338745
Body 15101
total production 15172, this shows how body numbers were not in sync with vin
Purchased from ad in self starter 1982 from direct relative of henry Leland
Miles at purchase 05632
Miles at sale in 08 5901

interesting aside of the last 45 1970 cadi built 17 were bayberry
Title: Re: idea for 70 fans
Post by: wrefakis on March 09, 2020, 10:53:39 AM
photos
Title: Re: idea for 70 fans
Post by: Bill Balkie 24172 on March 09, 2020, 12:11:23 PM
Quote from: wrench on March 09, 2020, 09:59:42 AM
Just popped the ‘70 Eldorado out of the barn and drove it around this weekend. Nice weather and no salt on the road, well except they salted north of me, fortunately I saw that before I went out in the Eldorado so I headed south, and East and West instead!

Gonna drive it around today, too. I replaced the steering wheel inlay yesterday.

jim,     
   The car looks great . Tell us more about your steering Wheel .  Did you send it out ? You said in your post you replaced the inlay . It looks great .

   Bill




Title: Re: idea for 70 fans
Post by: wrench on March 09, 2020, 06:26:52 PM
Quote from: Bill Balkie 24172 on March 09, 2020, 12:11:23 PM


Hi Bill,

I will do a post specifically about what I found/did. I will do that tomorrow.

I did not send it out. I did not pay our friend in FL $2500 for a wheel. I stumbled on a guy who what we (in my industry, when dealing with obsolescence) call ‘re-industrialized’ the inlay. I dug out the old inlay, cleaned up the inside channel and laid in the inlay. The process took me 3 hours, mainly because somebody along the way used superglue to tack on the old inlay when it started to come apart. This wound up ‘melting’ part of the wheel under the inlay. If one has a wheel in good condition but only the inlay is bad, it would probably take less time. I will elaborate on what I did to overcome some of the minor conditional obstacles in the specific post about it.

There is hope as the technique is affordable and able to be mass produced using modern materials and processes. They are hand made by the guy, but high quality.

I am making measurements on my 1969 rim blow to compare as I think the inlay in 1969 is a tad wider.

Once I have communicated back with the guy, additional details will be forthcoming.

I will say, I am very happy with the results. I don’t have the test of time yet, but it is a heck of a lot better than the old leather wrap wheel cover that was on there.

Title: Re: idea for 70 fans
Post by: Bill Balkie 24172 on March 09, 2020, 08:11:15 PM
Hello Jim ,
      That is very interesting. When those wheels are right they are beautiful .  I think the biggest reason for those wheels deteriorating are drivers picking at them over the years . I am sure the sun has a lot to do with it as well. Fortunately my wheel is in very good condition . And it is original . 2500 dollars is a lot of money to pay to restore a wheel . I wish I could go back in time to study the process . If someone could get that price down to 4 to 6 hundred dollars there is a whole lot of wheels out there that look like hell . There must of been a terrific amount of money  in tooling to manufacture those wheels . It would be a good nitch for somebody .

      Bill
Title: Re: idea for 70 fans
Post by: The Tassie Devil(le) on March 09, 2020, 09:33:37 PM
I wonder just how many people got into trouble simply because they didn't have a clue how to operate the horns in these Rim-blow wheel fitted cars?

Or, just the reverse, how many drivers got the fright of their lives when they accidentally operated the horns when gripping the wheel really hard?

Bruce. >:D
Title: Re: idea for 70 fans
Post by: wrench on March 09, 2020, 10:44:23 PM
Quote from: The Tassie Devil(le) on March 09, 2020, 09:33:37 PM
I wonder just how many people got into trouble simply because they didn't have a clue how to operate the horns in these Rim-blow wheel fitted cars?

Or, just the reverse, how many drivers got the fright of their lives when they accidentally operated the horns when gripping the wheel really hard?

Bruce. >:D

Currently doing research on whether I want to reactivate the rim blow on my 1969. You listed two concerns. Another was that after some time and usage, simple temperature changes would cause the switch to actuate and blow the horn randomly and uncommanded
Title: Re: idea for 70 fans
Post by: The Tassie Devil(le) on March 09, 2020, 11:38:37 PM
I have never heard of any rim-blow horns going off on their own.

Bruce. >:D
Title: Re: idea for 70 fans
Post by: Bill Balkie 24172 on March 10, 2020, 06:32:31 AM
Hello ,
    How exactly does the rim- blow horn work ?

     Bill
Title: Re: idea for 70 fans
Post by: The Tassie Devil(le) on March 10, 2020, 07:52:18 AM
Bill,

The inside circumference on the outer rim contains a squeezable inlay, that when pressed by the fingertips or the thumb, anywhere around the inside of said rim, closes an internal continuous contact, resulting in the horn relay being energised, thus blowing the horn/s.

The inlay looks like a 1/4" wide rubber strip.

Bruce. >:D
Title: Re: idea for 70 fans
Post by: Bill Balkie 24172 on March 10, 2020, 10:16:39 AM
Hello Bruce ,
    I guess they were problematic or to expensive to make and redesigned for 70 .

     Bill
Title: Re: idea for 70 fans
Post by: 76eldo on March 10, 2020, 10:32:04 AM
I’ve seen ads on Facebook for a guy making the wood inlay for about $300.00.
Title: Re: idea for 70 fans
Post by: cadillacmike68 on March 10, 2020, 12:46:25 PM
Quote from: wrefakis on March 07, 2020, 10:57:09 AM
an idea for 70 fans, lets post our best 70 photos be nice to see some real ones, I am in if you are? facebook? clc?

So Will, where are Your pics??
Title: Re: idea for 70 fans
Post by: wrefakis on March 10, 2020, 12:58:37 PM
I have posted the bayberry 70 on this page
Title: Re: idea for 70 fans
Post by: cadillacmike68 on March 10, 2020, 01:54:08 PM
Yes, I just saw that.

Where's the Fleetwood Brougham?
Title: Re: idea for 70 fans
Post by: wrefakis on March 10, 2020, 03:20:39 PM
18 416 original miles still with 1971 inspection sticker
Title: Re: idea for 70 fans
Post by: dochawk on March 14, 2020, 06:18:46 PM
Quote from: D.Smith on March 07, 2020, 07:07:07 PM
How about one of each?     


It's fascinating the difference that color makes.

My immediate reaction to the white one in the first picture is that the fins are two long (extending too far past the trunk).

But in every other color, I think they look great . . .

(says the guy whose there caddies are all white . . .)

Title: Re: idea for 70 fans
Post by: dochawk on March 14, 2020, 06:24:49 PM
Quote from: The Tassie Devil(le) on March 09, 2020, 09:33:37 PM
I wonder just how many people got into trouble simply because they didn't have a clue how to operate the horns in these Rim-blow wheel fitted cars?

We bought the van new in '02, and I *still* set off the horn regularly when reaching across it.

Must be a size thing, as no-one else has had that issue.

But my '93 Fleetwood is longer, and gives me far more room as a driver . . . (first car I've had that actually fits me since the '70s land yachts . . . I can lift my elbow without hitting the door or window, and put the visor to the side and drive with my hat on, too)

The oddest horn I've ever driven was the '83 cougar:  you had to push the turn signal in, as it had a nifty-crystally inset on the steering wheel hub.

Tough to remember in an emergency, and then, once you got used to it and drove something else, you attacked the turn signals in emergencies . . . ::)

Title: Re: idea for 70 fans
Post by: Quentin Hall on March 14, 2020, 09:25:28 PM
All this talk of rim blow horns going off without warning. I’ll best say nothing.
Title: Re: idea for 70 fans
Post by: cadillacmike68 on March 14, 2020, 10:36:58 PM
Let's keep it clean.