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Title: Classic Radio Restoration Thoughts
Post by: Clewisiii on October 08, 2023, 12:58:39 PM
Ok. I will need to decide what to do with my radio.

Many of the radio restoration guys I have found say they have stopped doing original restorations and have now switched to radio conversions. They said due to the extra labor required it is no longer worth it to them.

I am not opposed to that. I would want some type of FM. Maybe Bluetooth.

What are your thoughts.

My current radio actually played. But looks very rough. I do have another in my parts car.

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Title: Re: Classic Radio Restoration Thoughts
Post by: J. Russo on October 08, 2023, 03:00:10 PM
This place converted my 1941 radio.

https://www.joesclassiccarradio.com/
Title: Re: Classic Radio Restoration Thoughts
Post by: Patrick Fant on October 08, 2023, 03:03:09 PM
Sorry, but what year car did all this come out of?  The pile of parts does look pretty rough, but savable as long as you can get the valves (tubes.)  I thought about the modern conversion too, but then my wife convinced me to not gut that beautiful and still working radio.  I am glad I left it in tact.  I have a Bose Bluetooth speaker hidden that pairs with my phone on Spotify where I have my Cadillac playlist saved.  Then when I want the news I run up the electric antenna like they did in 1956 and let the Wonderbar find the stations I have on preset.  It's Beach Boys time all over again, until I hear the news then it is back to reality which is not nearly so fun.  That's my take.  pat
Title: Re: Classic Radio Restoration Thoughts
Post by: Clewisiii on October 08, 2023, 03:07:47 PM
Quote from: J. Russo on October 08, 2023, 03:00:10 PMThis place converted my 1941 radio.

https://www.joesclassiccarradio.com/

Yes I looked at joes. Between restoration and conversation they are another source who have stopped restoration.
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Patrick this is a 61 am only.

Title: Re: Classic Radio Restoration Thoughts
Post by: V63 on October 08, 2023, 04:46:53 PM
Here is a "reproduction audio"  with faux AM dial but conceals a fully amplified stereo, HD radio, BT, hands free telephone. External Amplifier Expandable.

  I adapted the original knobs (not easy) , including audio labels (original back lights)   behind knobs

The sound is absolutely wonderful even to an audiophile!

$400 if memory serves.
Title: Re: Classic Radio Restoration Thoughts
Post by: David Greenburg on October 08, 2023, 05:36:23 PM
I've left my '61 radio alone so far, even though it's only useful for the occasional baseball game or news.  But had my '60 converted by Gary Tayman, and I'm very happy with it. It looks completely stock and the wonderbar works. But it has FM stereo and Bluetooth, and he'll tweak it depending on your power/speaker needs. I'm only running 2 speakers, in the original locations, because this car is never going to be a listening room, and I didn't want to cut anything to add speakers.
Title: Re: Classic Radio Restoration Thoughts
Post by: Clewisiii on October 08, 2023, 05:42:56 PM
Quote from: David Greenburg on October 08, 2023, 05:36:23 PMI've left my '61 radio alone so far, even though it's only useful for the occasional baseball game or news.  But had my '60 converted by Gary Tayman, and I'm very happy with it. It looks completely stock and the wonderbar works. But it has FM stereo and Bluetooth, and he'll tweak it depending on your power/speaker needs. I'm only running 2 speakers, in the original locations, because this car is never going to be a listening room, and I didn't want to cut anything to add speakers.
David, does he have a shop or does he work independently.
Title: Re: Classic Radio Restoration Thoughts
Post by: Michael Petti on October 08, 2023, 06:40:59 PM
Phillips Electronics redid my radio. AM only. Works great. I listen to talk radio and in Fall I get football.  Love my rebuilt AM radio.
Title: Re: Classic Radio Restoration Thoughts
Post by: PHIL WHYTE CLC 14192 on October 08, 2023, 06:47:22 PM
Keep your radio original and use a Redirad to link up your phone for your choice of music. You can't beat the sound of a valve (tube) radio.
Title: Re: Classic Radio Restoration Thoughts
Post by: 35-709 on October 08, 2023, 07:13:47 PM
Gary Tayman (Sarasota, Florida) did the radio in my '50 Packard.  Everything looks original on the outside but all new components on the inside.  He has all kinds of options like bluetooth, etc., if you want them.

 https://www.taymanelectrical.com/ 
Title: Re: Classic Radio Restoration Thoughts
Post by: Cadillac Jack 82 on October 09, 2023, 11:58:25 AM

Try Precision Stereo Repair in Utica, NY.  They rebuilt my 1967 Wildcat radio and upgraded the capacitors.  The sound quality was fantastic!  The pricing is fair too and the turn-around time is usually 6-7 weeks.
Title: Re: Classic Radio Restoration Thoughts
Post by: Cadillac Jack 82 on October 09, 2023, 11:59:11 AM
Also on a side note do NOT convert it to Bluetooth.  Sure its nice to have a modern amenity in the radio but they tend to fail quickly according to several sources I've spoken with.
Title: Re: Classic Radio Restoration Thoughts
Post by: bcroe on October 09, 2023, 01:45:55 PM
An old radio can be made to perform like new, when
refreshed along with the speakers.  I fear though
the background noise on the AM is much more severe
today, than decades ago.  And any radio noise
supressors in the car must be functional.  Want
more than new, get the upgrade/conversion and the
extra speakers.  Bruce Roe
Title: Re: Classic Radio Restoration Thoughts
Post by: Cadillac Jack 82 on October 09, 2023, 03:27:46 PM
Bruce you'd be surprised at the radio quality of AM.  I'm able to pick up a 60s/70s station in Tucson from the east valley.  The sound quality is incredible.
Title: Re: Classic Radio Restoration Thoughts
Post by: eldofever58 on October 13, 2023, 06:03:51 PM
The biggest problem with these conversions is that they use a cheap Chinese tuner and amp board, and the replacement dial scale sticks out like a sore thumb. My personal preference is to restore the factory radio (pretty much all parts are still available), but add an aux-in cable which you can tuck into the glovebox when not in use. That way you can still pull in the AM oldies channel on Saturday night, the Wonderbar and push buttons are still functional, and you can listen to your phone/MP3 source with real tube amp sound when you want to.
Title: Re: Classic Radio Restoration Thoughts
Post by: jwwseville60 on October 13, 2023, 07:03:53 PM
Keep your radio original.
Its mostly commercials anyway.
An iPod and portable speaker is not a bad solution.
I listen to Johnny Cash, Sinatra and classical in the Caddy.
Title: Re: Classic Radio Restoration Thoughts
Post by: David King (kz78hy) on October 20, 2023, 05:53:14 PM
I used Charles Sigfried to rebuild my Brougham radio and he knows the wonder bar system well.  Still works good after 13 years.

http://www.nadjaart.com/web_design/webwork/charles/index.htm