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Title: ‘84 Eldorado Convertible Squeals when Top is engaged
Post by: GratefulDad on October 12, 2024, 07:33:25 PM
1984 Eldorado Convertible squeals when I put the top up and down. Probably something with the alternator? Any ideas?
Title: Re: ‘84 Eldorado Convertible Squeals when Top is engaged
Post by: The Tassie Devil(le) on October 12, 2024, 08:24:56 PM
Could be the fan belt is loose, and the squealing being caused by the power drain on the top motor, creating the alternator to work overtime, and the drive belt slipping.

If this is so, then try tightening the belt tension.

You are operating the top with the engine running?

Bruce. >:D
Title: Re: ‘84 Eldorado Convertible Squeals when Top is engaged
Post by: smokuspollutus on October 12, 2024, 10:14:47 PM
Loose air pump belt
Title: Re: ‘84 Eldorado Convertible Squeals when Top is engaged
Post by: James Landi on October 13, 2024, 06:49:12 AM
Your convertible is equipped with a window relay that engages ALL of the high amperage load window motors to cycle down, as well as the hydraulic convertible top pump--- a MIGHTY large power drain on your battery, alternator, and belts. As mentioned above, a loose belt will cause a squeal, HOWEVER, in addition, an OLD and failing battery and corroded battery cables will NOT do their part regarding the heavy current draw during the down window and top down cycle, and thus but much of the amperage load on your suffering alternator. Check the purchase date, have your battery load tested, check the battery connection cable ends and, yes, tighten the belt if it's loose.
Title: Re: ‘84 Eldorado Convertible Squeals when Top is engaged
Post by: GratefulDad on October 13, 2024, 10:19:04 AM
Thank you to all. All great advice...
Title: Re: ‘84 Eldorado Convertible Squeals when Top is engaged
Post by: GratefulDad on October 13, 2024, 11:08:12 AM
Quote from: The Tassie Devil(le) on October 12, 2024, 08:24:56 PMCould be the fan belt is loose, and the squealing being caused by the power drain on the top motor, creating the alternator to work overtime, and the drive belt slipping.

If this is so, then try tightening the belt tension.

You are operating the top with the engine running?

Bruce. >:D
Yes I am
Title: Re: ‘84 Eldorado Convertible Squeals when Top is engaged
Post by: The Tassie Devil(le) on October 13, 2024, 06:35:22 PM
If it turns out to be the slipping belt, then you also need to remove the belt, clean up both sides of the "V", to remove any "polished" areas, plus clean the sides of the pullies.

Plus, if the belt has been rubbing the bottom of the "V", then you will need a new belt, as the belt is only supposed to be riding up on the sides of said "V".   This is where it gets its friction from.

Bruce. >:D
Title: Re: ‘84 Eldorado Convertible Squeals when Top is engaged
Post by: TJ Hopland on October 14, 2024, 12:00:44 PM
Its been a while since I had to mess with belts on longitudinal 4100 but I seem to recall they basically used the same layout as the previous engines?  If that is the case then the alternator is driven with its own belt off the water pump and tension comes from the alternator.  The water pump is driven by the crank and AIR (smog) pump and tension comes from the smog pump.  This means the alternator belt could be in good condition and tension and the smog belt is the one that has issues and is slipping under this extreme load.