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Title: 1960 Trouble starting when Cold
Post by: 60eldo on April 10, 2025, 03:20:37 PM
I have a manuel choke that works fine, and electronic ign. I get in the car and tryed pressing gas pedal 3 times and engine just turns, the next day tryed pressing 5 times nothing. Eventually it starts. Temp is about 40F. Im getting gas cause I looked down the carb and by hand pushed the throdle and saw lots of gas come out, so its getting gas. Starts fine after warm up. What am I missing here.
Title: Re: 1960 Trouble starting when Cold
Post by: James Landi on April 11, 2025, 07:24:30 AM
As your engine ages, several issues will cause hard starting when cold.  I suggest that you purchase a vacuum gauge and carefully and thoroughly learn about this important tool and its many diagnostic capabilities.  A lack of  sufficient vacuum, uneven vacuum, or an engine that is not in tune will cause hard, cold starting.  In the meantime, I suggest that you try pumping the accelerator with the starter engaged and your choke pull on. Doing so will help to overcome a lack of sufficient vacuum.  Hope this helps.  James
Title: Re: 1960 Trouble starting when Cold
Post by: 60eldo on April 11, 2025, 12:51:30 PM
OK I can try that. When I pull the choke on, should the butterfly be completly closed, or open just slightly, maybe 1/8in.
Title: Re: 1960 Trouble starting when Cold
Post by: 59-in-pieces on April 11, 2025, 01:41:20 PM
Jon,

Since when does a 60 Cad have a manual - cable actuated - choke.

Have fun,
Steve B.
Title: Re: 1960 Trouble starting when Cold
Post by: dn010 on April 11, 2025, 02:53:30 PM
I thought this was a newly rebuilt engine and all that? The choke should not be fully closed, you would have to look in the shop manual but there is supposed to be a gap when "closed". Get rid of the manual choke and go back to the thermostatic choke.
Title: Re: 1960 Trouble starting when Cold
Post by: 60eldo on April 11, 2025, 02:59:17 PM
 My choke tube was burned out and when I got the engine rebuilt, I forgot to tell the guy to replace it. Now thats why I installed a manual choke.
Title: Re: 1960 Trouble starting when Cold
Post by: dn010 on April 11, 2025, 03:20:07 PM
In that case make sure the choke gap is set to the correct specs in the manual with the choke fully closed and then see how it does.
Title: Re: 1960 Trouble starting when Cold
Post by: 60eldo on April 14, 2025, 03:33:12 PM
So its better now. Starts right up. I closed the choke then opened it just a crack. Pumped it about 3 or 4 times,,,,then waited 10-15 seconds and it fired right up. Thanks all.
Title: Re: 1960 Trouble starting when Cold
Post by: Julien Abrahams on April 15, 2025, 11:04:31 AM
It also depends on how long the car has been sitting.  Do you mean you have to crank it for 10-15 seconds? Beecuase that seems quite long (depending on how long it has been sitting and the outside temperature.
If I compare it to my '54 and '67. If they sit for something like 24 hours, I just need to press the accelerator once to set the choke and both cars start within a second or two. If they have been sitting longer, the '54 will start with the same procedure in about 5 seconds.
Title: Re: 1960 Trouble starting when Cold
Post by: 60eldo on April 15, 2025, 12:21:02 PM
 No, I mean I pump the gas then wait 10-15 sec, then turn it over, and she starts right up