check the bid history on this amazing 62 Eldo
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4638419932 I at first thought someone punched in $45,000.00 and
got too many "Os"
The shieks must be bidding against each other
A beauty of a Cadillac but, FOUR MILLION ! This cant be right. It looks like some people got into a bidding war, looking at the bids. I hope the seller is not counting his money just yet. I would be real nervous.This will make all you guys happy who own 62 Eldorados.
steve
A good way to launder money.
Me thinks something fishy is going on here.
Bruce,
The Tassie Devil(le),
60 CDV
Thats some messed up stuff man.
Trust me it took me 2 years to sell my car. Last week they had an beter car like 62 sell for less 50k . I know where could I buy one for 25000 to 35000.
Maybe crooked auction .
Dale
Anyone else notice you cant "Watch It Now" on this auction? Never seen that before. Something going on here?
If that is a genuine bid, the buyer, or underbidder, can make me an offer on my 1959 Biarritz, factory Persian Sand (matching top and interior, factory buckets, all factory options, still with factory Warranty Book, and complete history and all previous owners documented (first owner a purple-heart recipient & Las Vegas Casino owner). This car is the only known survivor on the planet with all the most desirable factory options on the most iconic American car and year model of all. Not that I have ever entertained selling her, but at that price?????
For more info go to:
www.zanetti.net.au/priscilla.htmlPaul Zanetti
Quote from: Paul ZanettiAnyone else notice you cant "Watch It Now" on this auction? Never seen that before. Something going on here?
If that is a genuine bid, the buyer, or underbidder, can make me an offer on my 1959 Biarritz, factory Persian Sand (matching top and interior, factory buckets, all factory options, still with factory Warranty Book, and complete history and all previous owners documented (first owner a purple-heart recipient & Las Vegas Casino owner). This car is the only known survivor on the planet with all the most desirable factory options on the most iconic American car and year model of all. Not that I have ever entertained selling her, but at that price?????
For more info go to: http://www.zanetti.net.au/priscilla.html TARGET=_blank>www.zanetti.net.au/priscilla.html
Paul Zanetti
Great looking car, but why did you block the coping of the pictures. I wanted to use it for my wallpaper.
*There is a simple way of copying your pictures.
Hi John,
Sorry about that, but its for copyright reasons. The photo images do not belong to me, and are on my website conditional to prevention of unathourised reproduction. I have sent you a photo of the car by email for your wallpaper (not to be reproduced elsewhere please), or I breach my copyright agreement.
Regards from Australia.
Paul
Whats to stop someone from highlighting the photos...clicking Ctrl_C then Ctrl_V in any other document?
Breaching copyright is not about being clever, its about being honest. Depends on your personal integrity, I guess. Whats to stop someone from breaking a glass window and stealing a display TV?
Quote from: Vic MaileyBreaching copyright is not about being clever, its about being honest. Depends on your personal integrity, I guess. Whats to stop someone from breaking a glass window and stealing a display TV?
Thank you father for your inspirational thoughts.
Im not taking the pictures nor suggesting anyone else take them by being clever....just pointing out that he said he has the pictures on his website conditional to prevention of unauthorized reproduction and reproduction is not being prevented.
Glad to help keep you on the straight and narrow path, my son.
Not gonna touch that one. Wouldnt be prudent.
I understand the whole copyright concept, and I am more or less in favor of copyrights. I can see why some people wouldnt want their creativity used by others for profit. Myself, I just wanted to use one of the pictures for my "wallpaper". I change my wallpaper often, and once I go on the new one, the old one is deleted. Actually I didnt use the 59 as my wallpaper. I just wanted to let people know that just because they put a "block" on reproducing the picture, that it still can be reproduced, even by a PC-illiterate guy like me. People that put pictures and info on the internet, should realize that they are leaving themselves open to all forms of "Invasion of privacy". People should never put anything on the internet, that they wouldnt want the world to know or use.
Gee whiz!
I only added an explanation for John Flemming, who asked why I put a block on the pictures. I explained it was a condition of use by the magazine UNIQUE CARS and the photographer (understandable, as the images are their livelihood). As rightful owners of the images, I agreed to their request to give them credit and to place a copyright protection.
Now, if someone want to get around the block and breach the copyright laws, that is their own call. Ive not breached my agreement. Vic Mailey makes a good point. The laws only apply to honest people. The crooks ignore the laws. He makes the point that because you place a sheet of glass on a TV shopfront display, it will not prevent a crook from breaking the glass and taking what he wants. Although, John responded sarcastically at this analogy, I think its an apt comparison. Hope you enjoyed the image I sent you, John, and thanks for the email correspondence. Paul (Down Under).
Quote from: Paul ZanettiGee whiz!
[I only added an explanation for John Flemming,]
Thats Fleming with one "m", thank you.
[ The laws only apply to honest people. The crooks ignore the laws.]
In the words of my all time hero, Richard Milhouse Nixon "I am not a crook"
[He makes the point that because you place a sheet of glass on a TV shopfront display, it will not prevent a crook from breaking the glass and taking what he wants.]
Actually sheets of glass are used to show ones merchandise. If a store keeper wanted real security, he would put up steel roll down gates.
[Although, John responded sarcastically at this analogy, I think its an apt comparison.]
Thank you for the compliment, "sarcasm" is my middle name, its what I do best.
[Hope you enjoyed the image I sent you, John, and thanks for the email correspondence. Paul (Down Under).]
Yes I did, and I have it in reserve for future use. For the record, I didnt infringe upon anyones copyright. I didnt copy the pictures you blocked. As the unofficial self annointed guardian of privacy on the Internet, it was my purpose to bring out that if even some tries to block something on the Internet, it still can be copied. I had this sort of thing happen before, awhile back, when it was noted that some of us prefer to not use our full name, because of of privacy issues. Its kinda of ironic that you have some concerns about "copyrights", but saw fit to unmask me and expose me to the entire board.
Huh????
My head is starting to hurt!
Paul Z
Thats okay Paul.
If you were a Tasmanian, then it wouldnt hurt so moch as you could then share the hurt with the other one.
Bruce,
the Tassie Devil(le),
60 CDV
Hi,
I often wonder about auctions with "private bidders"
This means no one looking at the auction can see the bidding history so the seller could raise the
bidding on their own with a couple user names, or buddys who are willing to raise it.
Ive seen this with other items on Ebay that on the average sell 1/4 of the price a seller using Private bidding in his auction.
Its so obvious what they are doing I dont see why they bother.
I thought Ebay was better a couple years ago, it seemed more honest
and the auctions were transparent none of the secret privacy stuff.
Eric
This comment may sound a little trite but, for me, it has been a major discovery and breakthrough.
Im probably the least "geeky" of all you computer experts out there. I discovered accidentally that if I click on one of those "locked" eBay images, theres a little box of icons at top left; the first one looks like a miniature 3.5" diskette. When I click on that icon, I can "save" the image on my hard drive and change then file name as I see fit.
I dont usually breach a persons "copyright" ...except to make what the legal guys call "fair use" of coyrighted material, to illustrate a point. In this case, I used a cropped version of ONE out of about 50 of those Eldo images, in the "Photos" scetion of the Cadillac Database (1962), to illustrate what a nicely restored 1962 Cadillac Eldorado might look like.
Now, Im prepared to REMOVE that image, should the owner complain that his "copyright" has been breached.
And then one more tiny light would go out in the vastness of cyberspace...
If it were MY car, Id by PROUD to have it shown here and there!
Quote from: Paul ZanettiHuh????
My head is starting to hurt!
Paul Z
My brillance does tend to overwhelm people at times.....
Ive just taken a laxative and going to have a good lie down....
Hi Yann,
If it were up to me, you would all have oodles of photos to share and play with. It would be in my best interest to have thousands of images of my car scattered through cyber-space. Unfortunately the Packer Empire (Australias largest magazine empire, owned by Australias richest man, James Packer), run a tight ship and own those images via their UNIQUE CARS publication, who went to considerable expense to harness the photos, flying the editor from Melbourne to Queensland, and the photographer from Sydney to Queensland, for three days for the photos and story. I was grateful enough that they even sent me conditional images of the car, on my request, that they not be re-published except on my personal, non-commercial website. The Packer Empire is also a joint partner locally with Bill Gates (Microsoft) with its Channel Nine TV network website (www.ninemsn.com.au), so it has a serious internet interest, and I guess thats why they want those pictures (and all their copyright photos and text protected). Its protecting their commercial property.
But as others have said....whats to stop the crooks and the sneaky from stealing the photos at
www.zanetti.net.au/priscilla.html , anyway?????
Regards from Down Under
Paul
[But as others have said....whats to stop the crooks and the sneaky from stealing the photos]
Wow I didnt realize the ramifications of using one of the pictures as wallpaper!!!!! Far be it from me to bring down Australias richest man and Bill Gates!!!!!! Oh the humanity!!!!!
Hi Johnny.
While I have enjoyed your postings, and I am sure they have been as highly entertaining for others as they have been to me,I think there must be some misunderstanding on your part. I am starting to see a pattern that you seem to be on the defensive a lot, whenever I have posted an explanation that the photos are copyright protected. I have never considered you to be a crook, as your defensive postings imply. Such postings from you arent necessary. Even when I reply to others comments about why the copyright is on the photos.
I have never said or inferred that you are dishonest. But after I have explained why the copyright protection exists, you immediateley retaliate with a vigorous defence.
My previous posting:
[ The laws only apply to honest people. The crooks ignore the laws.]
Your reply:
In the words of my all time hero, Richard Milhouse Nixon "I am not a crook"
My previous posting:
My previous posting
[But as others have said....whats to stop the crooks and the sneaky from stealing the photos]
Your reply
Wow I didnt realize the ramifications of using one of the pictures as wallpaper!!!!! Far be it from me to bring down Australias richest man and Bill Gates!!!!!! Oh the humanity!!!!!
Your previous comment:
Its kinda of ironic that you have some concerns about "copyrights", but saw fit to unmask me and expose me to the entire board.
My reply:
I cant figure that one out. You are the one posting all the comments and replies, with your name and email address. How did I unmask you and expose you to the entire board?
Honestly, Johnny, there aint no conspiracy happening here. Glad you like the photos, anyway.
Looking forward to your next posting!!!!!!
Paul,
After some of the comments you got, Im surprised you needed the laxative....
Yeah...some people do that to you (LOL)!
Not you Johnny, I hasten to add! I think his postings have been intended to be humourous and sarcastic.
Its been a good laugh!
Now....about Cadillacs.......
Quote from: Paul ZanettiI am starting to see a pattern that you seem to be on the defensive a lot, whenever I have posted an explanation that the photos are copyright protected. I have never considered you to be a crook, as your defensive postings imply. Such postings from you arent necessary.
I have never said or inferred that you are dishonest. But after I have explained why the copyright protection exists, you immediateley retaliate with a vigorous defence.
Only because you introduced my full name into the discussion.
I submit into evidence your post:
"Gee whiz!
I only added an explanation for John Flemming, who asked why I put a block on the pictures."
Since you found it necessary to mention my name in this discussion, I felt it necessary to defend my honor, with a pinch of humor.
My previous posting:
[ The laws only apply to honest people. The crooks ignore the laws.]
Your reply:
In the words of my all time hero, Richard Milhouse Nixon "I am not a crook"
I thought that reference was quite clever.
My previous posting:
My previous posting
[But as others have said....whats to stop the crooks and the sneaky from stealing the photos]
Your reply
Wow I didnt realize the ramifications of using one of the pictures as wallpaper!!!!! Far be it from me to bring down Australias richest man and Bill Gates!!!!!! Oh the humanity!!!!!
Do you not see the humor in that?
Your previous comment:
Its kinda of ironic that you have some concerns about "copyrights", but saw fit to unmask me and expose me to the entire board.
My reply:
I cant figure that one out. You are the one posting all the comments and replies, with your name and email address. How did I unmask you and expose you to the entire board?
Again, your post:
"Gee whiz!
I only added an explanation for John Flemming, who asked why I put a block on the pictures."
Looking forward to your next posting!!!!!!
I do not disappoint......
Hey John...loossen-up, chill-out, COOL IT!
Your post:
("Since you found it necessary to mention my name in this discussion, I felt it necessary to defend my honor")
My reply:
Sorry pal, but I didnt "mention" your "name in this discussion". You did. Take a look back....
Youve used the same christian name and email for all your postings. Thats not my doing. Its no state secret that John Fleming and Jonny#662 are one-and-the same. Check your own email address on all postings under John Fleming and Johnny#662. And if I can see that all the way from down under, how about all those much smarter folk than me back in the USA?
By the way, if you were so sensitive about being identified, why were you so quick to clarify the spelling of your name so everyone could be sure it was you? Funny way to want to be anonymous. Use the same email and then make sure the spelling is right. You are a funny guy!
I submit into evidence your post:
("Thats Fleming with one "m", thank you.")
I can only re-iterate, I didnt have you in mind, as I am sure Vic didnt when we made the comment about laws stopping dishonest people stealing TVs, as your name wasnt mentioned. By the way HAVE you stolen any TVs? I can only wonder considering all the protesting being done!
This has been very entertianing, but alas, I have a life to get back to, and there are some kangaroos hopping into my Eldorado!
If you ever get down to Oz, Ill buy you a beer!!!!
Over and Out!!!!
Quote from: Paul Zanetti[Hey John...loossen-up, chill-out, COOL IT!]
Living in Florida, its all I can do to try and chill out and COOL IT.
[Your post:
("Since you found it necessary to mention my name in this discussion, I felt it necessary to defend my honor")
My reply:
Sorry pal, but I didnt "mention" your "name in this discussion". You did. Take a look back....]
You most certainly did, and I posted where you did, but I will do it again. Here it is for your dining and dancing pleasure:
Paul Zanetti Thursday, 5/18/06 5:37 PM
Gee whiz! I only added an explanation for John Flemming,
[Youve used the same christian name and email for all your postings. Thats not my doing.] Its no state secret that John Fleming and Jonny#662 are one-and-the same. Check your own email address on all postings under John Fleming and Johnny#662.]
Half right. Yes I do use the name Johnny #662 in my postings, but never my last name. Because of idenity theft that happens on the Internet, I used to only use my first name. Since a discussion was had awhile back concerning the use of names on the board, I added the #662, to give validity to my membership in the CLC.
[And if I can see that all the way from down under, how about all those much smarter folk than me back in the USA?]
Only folks with the CLC directory or access to one, would be able to know my last name. They would have to take the time, such as you did to look it up.
[By the way, if you were so sensitive about being identified, why were you so quick to clarify the spelling of your name so everyone could be sure it was you? Funny way to want to be anonymous.]
Since you let the cat out of the bag, I figured that at least my last name should be spelled right, just in case Ed McMahon, would come to my house and give me one of them checks from the Publishers Clearing House.
[ Use the same email and then make sure the spelling is right. You are a funny guy!]
Thank you for the compliment, thats what I try to be.
[I submit into evidence your post:
("Thats Fleming with one "m", thank you.")
I can only re-iterate, I didnt have you in mind, as I am sure Vic didnt when we made the comment about laws stopping dishonest people stealing TVs, as your name wasnt mentioned. By the way HAVE you stolen any TVs? I can only wonder considering all the protesting being done!]
Just when you were being civil, you start with the accusations.