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how many are left ??

Started by linchero, July 04, 2012, 07:42:57 AM

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linchero

Any you guys out there know how many 1960 cadillac eldorado seville,s are still around ? I read there were 1075 made then some guy wrote to me there are two hundred left world wide .what do you think ?  any proof of that? thanx   linchero

C.R. Patton II



Hello

Inquisitive question.

Without an accurate model registry virtually impossible to approximate. There are 45 listed in our 2012 CLC Directory.

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linchero


Eldorado Tex

I'm sure many of them are in Europe

Eric DeVirgilis CLC# 8621

If I had to guess, I'd put it around 300-350.
A Cadillac Motorcar is a Possession for which there is no Acceptable Substitute

Mike Josephic CLC #3877

The number of 1960 Sevilles produced in my books was 1057 (not 1075).

Therefore, for the number left I agree with Eric's "guesstimate" is likely
in the 300 range.  Using the numbers for those registered in our Club
can be rather deceptive.  For example, there are many large clubs in Europe
with members who have very nice selections of our cars.  The Cadillac Club Germany alone has about 500 members!  Equally large clubs exist in Finland,
Belgium, etc. even Australia.

So, to answer your question -- there is no definitive way to give you
an exact number as to the famous question "how many are left" as there
is no accurate way to compile that data.

Mike
1955 Cadillac Eldorado
1973 Cadillac Eldorado
1995 Cadillac Seville
2004 Escalade
1997 GMC Suburban 4X4, 454 engine, 3/4 ton
custom built by Santa Fe in Evansville, IN
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linchero

thanks mike , sounds good to me.

veesixteen

Yann Saunders, CLC #12588
Compiler and former keeper of "The Cadillac Database"
aka "MrCadillac", aka "Veesixteen"

Barry

This looks like the one I remember in Durham, NC many years ago. It was owned by George Wrenn and was a very nice , original car !
Barry Norman
1958 Biarritz
1961Biarritz
1976 Bicentennial
1976 Fleetwood Talisman
1961Continental Convertible

C.R. Patton II



Hello

"Left" is an interesting discussion topic.

Eric's guesstimate of approximately 31% is debatable over a good steak. He may have a good argument with our comrads in Europe and Australia selecting premium collector cars. The 1960 Cadillac Seville was an exclusive automobile for the affluent in that time period. Owners probably maintained them properly.

I rode in a Texas members car (Joe) in Galveston in January....smooth as silk. Also a buddy (Tom) has a beautiful one in Michigan.

If there are 69% that are not members of our club let's enthusiastically encourage them to join our club.
All good men own a Cadillac but great gentlemen drive a LaSalle. That is the consequence of success.

Eric DeVirgilis CLC# 8621

#10
The estimate I gave was based on an unofficial tally of extant '59 Eldorado Biarritz. While I do not recall the source, the figure given was ~400 or approximately 1/3 production. Being the Seville fell into the same price level as the Biarritz (59 & 60) I would imagine a similar rate would apply calculating to around 300 or so.

New 1960 Cadillac owners probably kept their cars around a bit longer than new '59 owners. (Just a hypothesis). This may have worked in the 1960 models' favor - so perhaps up to 35% or around 350. I doubt 40%, but it is certainly  possible.

ECD

A Cadillac Motorcar is a Possession for which there is no Acceptable Substitute

76eldo

Considering that many new Cadillac buyers back then traded their cars for new ones every two years I am sure that a lot of these were traded or sold by 63/64.

Probably sold as clean used cars and kept for a while.

It's when these cars see the 3rd 4th and 5th owners and start getting serviced at Pep Boys and the corner gas station that they go down hill in a hurry.

Factor in that they were not worth much at all by the late 60's or early 70's and cars in the rust belt were rusty by then, it cuts the number of survivors down a  lot.
Now think about how many decent Eldo coupes were cut up and cannibalized to restore convertibles and that eliminates more potential examples remaining.

Whatever the exact number is, you own a very rare car.

Brian

Brian Rachlin
Huntingdon Valley, Pa
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1960 62 Series Conv with Factory Tri Power
1970 DeVille Conv
1970 Eldo
1970 Caribu (?) "The Cadmino"
1973 Eldorado Conv Pace Car
1976 Eldorado Conv
1980 Eldorado H & E Conv
1993 Allante with Hardtop (X2)
2008 DTS
2012 CTS Coupe
2017 XT
1956 Thunderbird
1966 Olds Toronado

C.R. Patton II



Brian and Eric

I really enjoy reading you thoughts. Thank you for sharing your knowledge. This is a great club.
All good men own a Cadillac but great gentlemen drive a LaSalle. That is the consequence of success.

linchero

#13
honesly you guys,I knew this beauty was rare but such a response to "how many are left" leaves me in a complete reality that I better hold on to this beauty.You guys are competely with it . thanx