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1947 Convertible Top

Started by RABLEB, August 27, 2024, 06:00:09 PM

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RABLEB

I am in the final stages of restoring my convertible.

I have a question: Does the 1947 Convertible Top have a headliner?

I have the first version of the authenticity manual and a 1946-1948 Body Manual. Neither book discusses a headliner. The body manual goes into great detail about replacing the top but doesn't mention a headliner. I am asking because the front frame has a tack strip the full width and it is my understanding that is for a headliner.

TonyZappone #2624

I have had (and I have one now) 5 or 6 '47 convertibles.  I remember none of them with a headliner.  I remember some in the 60's or 70's with a partial headliner from the first bow forward only
Tony Zappone, #2624
1936 Pierce-Arrow conv sed
1947 Cadillac Conv cpe
1958 Cadillac conv
2016 Cadillac CT6 Platinum
2022 Chrysler Pacifica Pinnacle

The Tassie Devil(le)

There was a Headliner in 1972.   Header bow to 1st bow.

Bruce. >:D
'72 Eldorado Convertible (LHD)
'70 Ranchero Squire (RHD)
'74 Chris Craft Gull Wing (SH)
'02 VX Series II Holden Commodore SS Sedan
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Past Cars of significance - to me
1935 Ford 3 Window Coupe
1936 Ford 5 Window Coupe
1937 Chevrolet Sports Coupe
1955 Chevrolet Convertible
1959 Ford Fairlane Ranch Wagon
1960 Cadillac CDV
1972 Cadillac Eldorado Coupe

Warren Rauch #4286

   From 1948 Cadillac Master Body book

       Group 36.0001 Roof coverings

         Yardage Needed
                       Outside   lining
     
           42-6267     6yd        4 1/2 yd
           46-6267     6yd        4 1/2 yd
           47-6267     6yd        4 1/2 yd
           48-6267     6yd        4 1/2 yd

    Cloth part numbers

          47-6267 Before body approx #2724

          416 1455   Tan outside material                                                                                                                                                                                                         
          416 1456   Black outside material
          414 8484   Tan lining used with black or tan covering

       47-6267 after body approx #2725

          416 2097  Tan outside material
          416 2098  Black outside material
          416 2093  Tan lining used with black or tan covering

       48-6267X

          416 4683  Tan outside material
          416 4685  Tan lining
          416 4684  Black outside material
          416 4684  Black lining

I vote for a lining. The book lists lining yardage for 1939-48 models,so it was the standard at that time.  In group 36.0002 ( made up top coverings)it makes note that there was a change in how bindings are now made. From 1942-47 they matched the color of the interior leather . Starting in 1948 they are tan on tan tops,black on black tops. All replacement tops (1947- 1948) use the 1948 practice.

  What bindings are they talking about? Odd colors on the outside of the car?

Warren
         

       

TonyZappone #2624

Many European convertibles had an "inner top liner", an actual separate piece under the convertible top, for insulation, or whatever.  I think what we are speaking of here, is a sort of laminated colored layer, to go along with the interior trim.  Most cars of that era have had the tops replaced, therefore the lower layer facing the interior has always been black, on the cars I have owned
Tony Zappone, #2624
1936 Pierce-Arrow conv sed
1947 Cadillac Conv cpe
1958 Cadillac conv
2016 Cadillac CT6 Platinum
2022 Chrysler Pacifica Pinnacle

Warren Rauch #4286

           Tony what your saying is the lining material is just to cover the inside of the top material. It fits above the top bows, but under the outer top layer. Where a headlining would hang below and hide the bows.
        I wonder if it was water proof.It should have been . The canvas tops of the era ,could get soaked and drip a little. It also explains (at least in part) why hardtop convs of the 50s had exposed chrome top bows for decoration.They were trying to imitate that look.

Warren