Re: 1972 Eldorado wiring harness

[Stoverlarry]

I believe it's starting to look better still working on the wiring part though

["Cadillac Kid" Greg Surfas 15364]

The old "rattle can overhaul". Why did you use that color? The correct color is available and looks much better. Even not running.
Greg Surfas

[Stoverlarry]

I pulled up the color coat for it that's what matched there were some spots on the motor  the same color on the lower end by the oil pan

[35-709]

The correct color for Cadillac valve covers and engines from 1949 through 1976 is Cadillac Blue, available from Bill Hirsch or mix your own from Rustoleum Royal Blue with a little Black to match an original dark blue piece.

http://www.hirschauto.com/AEROSOL-ENGINE-ENAMEL/productinfo/EEA-SPRAY/CAD%20DK%20BLU/
The Cadillac (dark) Blue from Bill Hirsch in rattle cans was out of stock for some time but his site now lists it as "in stock".  It also comes in brush-on cans.

The color of your engine appears to be GM "Corporate Blue" which Cadillac used after 1976.  Some one painted yours the incorrect color in the past (which you copied) or I suppose it is in the realm of possibility that you have a later (after '76) engine in there.  The correct Cadillac Blue for your car used to be available at parts stores in rattle cans, but no longer.

Below is a picture of a 1966 Cadillac engine in "Cadillac Blue" 

[Stoverlarry]

Well I'm going to change the color

[Stoverlarry]

Okay I ran a hot wire to my coil I still have no fire from the battery

["Cadillac Kid" Greg Surfas 15364]

What do you mean no fire FROM the battery?
Greg Surfas

[Stoverlarry]

Yep no fire

[The Tassie Devil(le)]

The wire has to go from the battery to the + on the coil, to get ignition, and the  -  on the coil to the distributor, and then simply crank the engine over with the Starter Motor/Key.

MAKE SURE THE CAR IN IN PARK.

If it starts, to turn it off, simply remove the wire from the coil to the battery from the battery.

What you are doing this way is to by-pass the on-board ignition circuit.

Bruce.

[Stoverlarry]

That's what I did Bruce I disconnected the two wires going to the coil going to the bulkhead and ran a wire to the positive of the battery to the positive of the coil

[The Tassie Devil(le)]

So, when you cranked the engine, did it fire up?

Bruce.

[Stoverlarry]

NO

[The Tassie Devil(le)]

Well, don't know what to say apart from asking if you poured a gut-full of petrol into the carby immediately prior to cranking the engine over.

Have you got spark at a plug lead whilst cranking?

This is tough over the internet.

Bruce.

[Stoverlarry]

I don't have no spark at all from the number one do you know where I can get the bracket for the decel and the kickdown solenoid I'd probably have to look around a salvage yard right

[35-709]

A couple of suggestions, if no one comes up with those pieces, would be Cadillac Tim (864-348-7732, no website) --- or Willington Cadillac (Jeff Burland)   http://willingtoncadillac.com/     or eBay.

[35-709]

In my opinion you really need to bite the bullet and get (hire) a mechanic to come and see just what you are dealing with here.  It shouldn't take a good mechanic very long to find your problem.  Just be sure that if he is not familiar with your engine that you point out to him that #1 is on the passenger side, those educated on Chevrolet have to learn this.