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'57 Brougham, the fun will never begin!

Started by Poncholover, October 25, 2022, 05:30:13 PM

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Poncholover

Flattie Caddy

Jeff Rosansky CLC #28373

What a shame that they modified it.
Jeff R.
Jeff Rose
CLC #28373
1970 Coupe DeVille (Big Red)
1955 Series 62 (Baby Blue)
Dad's new 1979 Coupe DeVille

Roger Zimmermann

This is one of the fists cars built (#64) with painted aluminum door trim panels. Fortunately, the later cars had a soft trim made with leather.
Good luck to find the wiper arms!
1956 Sedan de Ville (sold)
1956 Eldorado Biarritz
1957 Eldorado Brougham (sold)
1972 Coupe de Ville
2011 DTS
CLCMRC benefactor #101

V63

I can appreciate that the car does not appear obviously modified, save for opening the hood .

I don't know how you can do this much in a conversion and not have functioning gauges or air conditioning? This alone seems telling,  as minimally ... it's a work in progress.

Roger Zimmermann

Quote from: V63 on October 26, 2022, 05:14:52 AMI can appreciate that the car does not appear obviously modified, save for opening the hood .

What is wrong with the hood?
1956 Sedan de Ville (sold)
1956 Eldorado Biarritz
1957 Eldorado Brougham (sold)
1972 Coupe de Ville
2011 DTS
CLCMRC benefactor #101

jwwseville60

You cant fix stupid.
But you can fix this car...put it back to factory spec.
Lifetime CLC

V63

There is nothing wrong with hood, it's just that once it has open it's revealed the modifications.

Having owned broughams, to have one to 'factory spec' is not realistic.
Cadillac themselves certainly could NOT do it. Now 70 years later and no parts inventory how can we do it today? Not to mention the cost.
 
Most broughams were simply parked as an embarrassment,  as both their expectations and excessive cost. This helped as to survival numbers.

benji808

IMO a "restomod" like this has it's place, and could be pretty cool to own and drive. Agree it's concerning  that some "simple" things don't work...you know what they say about buying someone else's project.  :D

V63

The brougham gauges were specific to them and not the simple fix most would think, especially with the desire of keeping it looking authentic.

Scott Nellis

   While I don't personally agree with going the restomod route, and the purists in our club are really cringing at this, I am happy that this beautiful car is probably going to be driving around the countryside for all to see. In my opinion it is one of the most beautifully sculptured Cadillacs ever built. As has been mentioned, until you open the hood, it looks as it was intended to look in 1957.
1957 Eureka Hearse
1965 Miller-Meteor Hearse
1968 Miller-Meteor Hearse
1968 Fleetwood Brougham
1970 Superior Hearse

Roger Zimmermann

On the other side, I understand why a modern engine was installed: with the original motor, the Brougham is not a quick car; its curb weight is the reason. My '56 Biarritz, about 200 kg lighter than the Brougham I had, accelerate better.
1956 Sedan de Ville (sold)
1956 Eldorado Biarritz
1957 Eldorado Brougham (sold)
1972 Coupe de Ville
2011 DTS
CLCMRC benefactor #101

The Tassie Devil(le)

Quote from: Scott Nellis on October 27, 2022, 03:51:09 AMWhile I don't personally agree with going the restomod route, and the purists in our club are really cringing at this, I am happy that this beautiful car is probably going to be driving around the countryside for all to see. In my opinion it is one of the most beautifully sculptured Cadillacs ever built. As has been mentioned, until you open the hood, it looks as it was intended to look in 1957.
With some people, myself included, I prefer to drive around in a car that is aesthetically pleasing to the eye, and able to keep up with modern driving conditions and traffic.

No good having a car, especially one that is really old, and not being able to comfortably drive it, in all weather, which can and does happen down here.

Some "resto-rods" are extremely well done, like this car, and others are way too outlandish.

Bruce. >:D
'72 Eldorado Convertible (LHD)
'70 Ranchero Squire (RHD)
'74 Chris Craft Gull Wing (SH)
'02 VX Series II Holden Commodore SS Sedan
(Past President Modified Chapter)

Past Cars of significance - to me
1935 Ford 3 Window Coupe
1936 Ford 5 Window Coupe
1937 Chevrolet Sports Coupe
1955 Chevrolet Convertible
1959 Ford Fairlane Ranch Wagon
1960 Cadillac CDV
1972 Cadillac Eldorado Coupe

James Landi

Apparently, the seller spent a fortune to purchase and, we can assume, that the conversion and retention of the original drive train was part of the program to "...keep up with modern driving conditions and traffic" as Bruce states.  With less than 200 additional miles on the clock,I suspect none of this worked out--- with important parts not easily made to work... It's likely a "buying opportunity" so someone with the cash who would want to complete the more tedious and conplex work to get it ALL functioning, or to perhaps, more simply put it all back to mostly original.  All this said, I don't believe all of this work will add dollars to the purchase price.  Buying rare items can be a terrific hedge against inflation, but something that is not original will not draw the big bucks.    James