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1969 light switch

Started by Roger Zimmermann, August 06, 2024, 11:12:17 AM

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Roger Zimmermann

A friend of mine had a trouble with headlamps. He would like that I'm looking into the lamp switch to see if something is bad. Did somebody  opened such a 1969-1975 switch or is that mission impossible? I don't have the switch yet, I should get it in the next few days.
Thanks for your comments!
1956 Sedan de Ville (sold)
1956 Eldorado Biarritz
1957 Eldorado Brougham (sold)
1972 Coupe de Ville
2011 DTS
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klinebau

I never tried to open one up, but they were used in millions of GM vehicles so are readily available new (probably made cheaply overseas).  There are some minor differences with the pinouts over the years.
1970 Cadillac Deville Convertible
Detroit, MI

Big Fins

Don't be too fast to condemn the headlight switch, unless it's known to be faulty. The dimmer switch from the mid 60's to the mid 90's were famous to make poor connections. Especially the plug connection to the dimmer switch. They get hot, damp and dirty hanging out under the carpet.
Current:
1976 Eldorado Convertible in Crystal Blue Fire Mist with white interior and top. (Misty Blue)

Past and much missed:
1977 Brougham de Elegance
1976 Eldorado Convertible
1972 Fleetwood Brougham
1971 Sedan de Ville
1970 de Ville Convertible
1969 Fleetwood Brougham
1969 Sedan de Ville
1959 Sedan deVille

Roger Zimmermann

Thanks for the answers! However, you missed the point: can the switch be opened or not?
Just for your info: the owner replaced the foot switch some time ago and found recently some badly "repaired" wires emerging from the switch. No need to buy another switch if the one he has is good, but how to prove it?
1956 Sedan de Ville (sold)
1956 Eldorado Biarritz
1957 Eldorado Brougham (sold)
1972 Coupe de Ville
2011 DTS
CLCMRC benefactor #101

Big Fins

I'm reasonably sure they can be taken apart, just carefully. The last one I did was for a '59. It was a simple circuit board inside with old crusty grease and a top circuit board, (using that for the lack of a better term) that slid over the lower one to make the needed connection path.

The wiring connectors is what burns them out. The connectors get dusty, loose and then start getting hot, making the connection worse, then none at all. Much of that resistance starts at the headlight bulbs themselves because they are the first item on the path out in the weather.

Clean up all the connections first with contact cleaner, a fine wire brush and then when reinstalling, use dielectric grease on them. If you do have to condemn the switch, remove it, take it apart and clean it, again putting it back together with fresh grease and be sure the connectors going to the switch are clean and tight.
Current:
1976 Eldorado Convertible in Crystal Blue Fire Mist with white interior and top. (Misty Blue)

Past and much missed:
1977 Brougham de Elegance
1976 Eldorado Convertible
1972 Fleetwood Brougham
1971 Sedan de Ville
1970 de Ville Convertible
1969 Fleetwood Brougham
1969 Sedan de Ville
1959 Sedan deVille

69Deville

Yes, I've done it. But like others have said, it wasn't the cause of my issues.

A good cleaning of the grounding points at the headlights and the foot switch resolved my issue.

After opening it and cleaning it and having it not work, I bought a new one for about $20. It worked exactly the same as the restored one.
1969 Cadillac Deville Convertible
1966 Cadillac Series 60 Fleetwood
1996 Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham-sold :(

Roger Zimmermann

Indeed, the light switch is rather easy to open by bending the stell tabs at both sides. Contrary to earlier switches, no spring is flying as they stay inside a "chariot".
I cleaned the bi-metal's contacts, assembled back and it's ready to be installed back into the car.
New repro switches are available now for a tad over $ 25.00.

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1956 Sedan de Ville (sold)
1956 Eldorado Biarritz
1957 Eldorado Brougham (sold)
1972 Coupe de Ville
2011 DTS
CLCMRC benefactor #101

Big Fins

That one got a little warm. Look at the contact points bar. Very discolored. High resistance from bad or weak grounds.
Current:
1976 Eldorado Convertible in Crystal Blue Fire Mist with white interior and top. (Misty Blue)

Past and much missed:
1977 Brougham de Elegance
1976 Eldorado Convertible
1972 Fleetwood Brougham
1971 Sedan de Ville
1970 de Ville Convertible
1969 Fleetwood Brougham
1969 Sedan de Ville
1959 Sedan deVille

Roger Zimmermann

It's what I found too! There was a previous "repair" at the main wire to the dimmer switch creating the mess.
1956 Sedan de Ville (sold)
1956 Eldorado Biarritz
1957 Eldorado Brougham (sold)
1972 Coupe de Ville
2011 DTS
CLCMRC benefactor #101