1950s incorrect Paint Code ?

[cedmac59]

1956 Cadillac Ser 62 with incorrect paint code
VIN PLATE:
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|CADILLAC MOTOR CAR DIVISION|
| GENERAL MOTORS CORPORATION|    ('O' alone below = hole in VIN Tag = Rivet or hole)
|      DETROIT, MICH.      |
|    STYLE No_ 56-6239DX    |    =    Deluxe Sedan DeVille, 4dr.
| O  BODY No_  F W 39227  O |    =    Production Sequence
|    TRIM No_ 43      H  O |    =    (Interior) = 43 = "Black/Blue" Blk Cloth / Blu Leather,    H = ?
|  PAINT No_ 24-20        |    =    24 = Tahoe Blue (Lower/Body) - 20 = Sonic Blue (Upper/Roof) (10 is code for Black)
|  TOP  ACC.  EHY        |    =    ACCESSORY CODES = TOP(none), ACC. EHY =  E Z eye glass, H = Heater, Y = 6-WAY CONTROL SEAT,
|      BODY BY FISHER      |
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Paint code differs from car VIN (Original/Highly Original car)
25,770 miles

This car is Light Blue (Lower/Body) with Black (Upper/Roof)
Paint Code is "24-20"
XX-XX = lower color - upper color
24 = Tahoe Blue - 20 = Sonic Blue
so, car should be Tahoe Blue body with Sonic Blue Roof
It is not.
car is Light Blue with Black Roof
(10 is code for Black)

Is it possible the paint code is incorrect?
This car is 1000% original.
25718  01-16-1976 per oil change sticker
25770  10-25-2024
Only 52 miles in almost 49 years

Also,
What does the "H" mean to the right of the "43" (Interior) Trim Code ?

[Roger Zimmermann]

A repaint right after delivery? If the car was repainted, you should see traces of the original paint at hidden spots.

[cedmac59]

No evidence whatsoever of a repaint after delivery.



https://photos.google.com/album/AF1QipOibUL-rXDO2tKercoU_azmYDfCfPNmrqCzAMGL/photo/AF1QipOx64k90gnlfxhPpgWPicSvO3Ius6fFYfWOH3oa

https://photos.google.com/album/AF1QipOibUL-rXDO2tKercoU_azmYDfCfPNmrqCzAMGL/photo/AF1QipPDWv1PtlV0OmqV6G76-vuhNHUNnMCNu34a2wIM

[Clewisiii]

My car was damaged on the assembly line. The driver rear door must have hit something on the line while open. They used filler, factory red oxide primer, and a fresh coat of the blue on the door. I found broken glass stuck in seam sealer on the floor under the carpet. I did not know any of this until I completly disassembled my car and sandblasted it.

Maybe this was taken to the side and done as a factory repair and they did not use the orginal color.

Maybe this was delivered to a dealer and they changed the color to help a sale.

Maybe you are wrong that it is not a repaint.

My 52 buick is silver with a white roof. It came from the factory as a solid silver car. At some time long ago they thought the contrast color roof looked better and repainted it.

[Eric DeVirgilis CLC# 8621]

The links aren't working for me.

At any rate, I've never heard of a case where the paint codes on the body tag conflicted with the way the car originally left the factory. It's remotely possible the change to the roof color was made at the factory. If so, the only question is whether it was changed before or after the Sonic Blue paint was applied to the roof.

[cedmac59]

This is from the 1957 title;
Title  DATE: May 27, 1957
CADILLAC DEV SED 5662-145713

It was a very late production run.
Wondering if that had anything to do with it.
The Interior cloth color is BLACK.

Seems to me that comes into play when considering if the roof was factory black.

Besides, who would put a SONIC BLUE roof on a TAHOE BLUE car?
I'd think they would clash a bit.
I've seen many Tahoe & Sonic blue cars with White roofs but never a Tahoe Blue w/ Sonic Blue roof.

[Clewisiii]

Share some pictures. Have you ordered a build sheet.

[Clewisiii]

Looking up a cars history with Kevin Kirbitz the head of the GM archives, we once found an interesting one. A car Vin with two seperate build sheets. It was a car being sent to Europe for a show. It left the factory in primer with a build sheet to match. It was painted and finished assembly in europe with a new build seet. Someone in New Zealand had the car and asked if i could help look it up. Kevin came back and said that was the only time he found a car with two build sheets.

[J. Gomez]

No evidence whatsoever of a repaint after delivery.



https://photos.google.com/album/AF1QipOibUL-rXDO2tKercoU_azmYDfCfPNmrqCzAMGL/photo/AF1QipOx64k90gnlfxhPpgWPicSvO3Ius6fFYfWOH3oa

https://photos.google.com/album/AF1QipOibUL-rXDO2tKercoU_azmYDfCfPNmrqCzAMGL/photo/AF1QipPDWv1PtlV0OmqV6G76-vuhNHUNnMCNu34a2wIM

1956 Cadillac Ser 62 with incorrect paint code
VIN PLATE:
---------------------------
|CADILLAC MOTOR CAR DIVISION|
| GENERAL MOTORS CORPORATION|    ('O' alone below = hole in VIN Tag = Rivet or hole)
|      DETROIT, MICH.      |
|    STYLE No_ 56-6239DX    |    =    Deluxe Sedan DeVille, 4dr.
| O  BODY No_  F W 39227  O |    =    Production Sequence
|    TRIM No_ 43      H  O |    =    (Interior) = 43 = "Black/Blue" Blk Cloth / Blu Leather,    H = ?
|  PAINT No_ 24-20        |    =    24 = Tahoe Blue (Lower/Body) - 20 = Sonic Blue (Upper/Roof) (10 is code for Black)
|  TOP  ACC.  EHY        |    =    ACCESSORY CODES = TOP(none), ACC. EHY =  E Z eye glass, H = Heater, Y = 6-WAY CONTROL SEAT,
|      BODY BY FISHER      |
--------------------------
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Paint code differs from car VIN (Original/Highly Original car)
25,770 miles

This car is Light Blue (Lower/Body) with Black (Upper/Roof)
Paint Code is "24-20"
XX-XX = lower color - upper color
24 = Tahoe Blue - 20 = Sonic Blue
so, car should be Tahoe Blue body with Sonic Blue Roof
It is not.
car is Light Blue with Black Roof
(10 is code for Black)

Is it possible the paint code is incorrect?
This car is 1000% original.
25718  01-16-1976 per oil change sticker
25770  10-25-2024
Only 52 miles in almost 49 years

Also,
What does the "H" mean to the right of the "43" (Interior) Trim Code ?

You may need to request the built sheet to validate/verify the options on the car versus the tag itself.

According to the Specification Manual (available at GM Heritage Center) the;

TOP  ACC.  EHY        |    =    ACCESSORY CODES = TOP(none), ACC. EHY =  E Z eye glass, H = Heater, Y = 6-WAY CONTROL SEAT,

The "Y" option is for the 4-way aka "Posture seat adjuster" which was optional on the vertical/tilting and standard on the horizontal movement although identified as a 6-way adjuster if the optional was added, the 6-way was not available for any of the body style F, J, L and M.

The 6239D is under body style "L" under the specs manual however there are no codes for the 6239DX. 

GENERAL MOTORS CORPORATION|    ('O' alone below = hole in VIN Tag = Rivet or hole)
O  BODY No_  F W 39227  O |    =    Production Sequence

There is a note on this manual "To order a special exterior color, type Code "O" in color space on order form and type complete lacquer name and number on center part of order form."

Now not sure if this may be been included in the tag somewhere when request were made, I know "SO" was included on the tag for Special Orders but "O"  


TRIM No_ 43      H  O |    =    (Interior) = 43 = "Black/Blue" Blk Cloth / Blu Leather,    H = ?

The TRIM code 43 is shown as "W B Y Stardust and blue lather" for the DeVille coupe "J" and sedan "L", however there are no code 43 under the trim combination table.  I recall the additional letter after the trim codes were discussed long time ago at the old MidCentury Cadillac site (unfortunately long-time ago defunct      ) I could be wrong but there was a list compiled from several researches.

[cedmac59]

I have not ordered the build sheet yet.
Will wait to see if I find it under the rear seat. Have car in storage currently.

[Warren Rauch #4286]

  Some general information .
  In 1956 Cadillac the 100 preferred two-tones(Specification Manual)
   top Choices Tahoe Blue (24) lower

         Upper  Canyon Gray(12)
                Sonic Blue (20)
                Alpine White (90)
   Second Best  Cascade Gray(14)
                Cobalt Blue (26)

Black was not a preferred  choice. It could be ordered without  going to a Special Order,but probably not for stock. Or a stock car top could be repainted,to make a sale.

 A guess on 43 HO. In 1958 up upholstery charts H is used for headliner. Could HO = HEADLINER SPECIAL ORDER? In later years it would require a whole special order interior.

Warren

[cedmac59]

Warren, Thanks,
I thought the Sonic Blue Roof was a weird combo but evidently not.
Tahoe Blue is also not what I would have chosen but it's growing on me.
The  H  after the 43 for 'H'eadliner makes sense.
   (the 'O' is just location of the rivet or hole in the tag - see my note on orig post.)