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Started by wrefakis, March 07, 2020, 10:57:09 AM

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Bill Balkie 24172

Quote from: wrench on March 09, 2020, 09:59:42 AM
Just popped the ‘70 Eldorado out of the barn and drove it around this weekend. Nice weather and no salt on the road, well except they salted north of me, fortunately I saw that before I went out in the Eldorado so I headed south, and East and West instead!

Gonna drive it around today, too. I replaced the steering wheel inlay yesterday.

jim,     
   The car looks great . Tell us more about your steering Wheel .  Did you send it out ? You said in your post you replaced the inlay . It looks great .

   Bill




Bill Balkie
1970 Coupe DeVille
2009 CTS

wrench

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Quote from: Bill Balkie 24172 on March 09, 2020, 12:11:23 PM


Hi Bill,

I will do a post specifically about what I found/did. I will do that tomorrow.

I did not send it out. I did not pay our friend in FL $2500 for a wheel. I stumbled on a guy who what we (in my industry, when dealing with obsolescence) call ‘re-industrialized’ the inlay. I dug out the old inlay, cleaned up the inside channel and laid in the inlay. The process took me 3 hours, mainly because somebody along the way used superglue to tack on the old inlay when it started to come apart. This wound up ‘melting’ part of the wheel under the inlay. If one has a wheel in good condition but only the inlay is bad, it would probably take less time. I will elaborate on what I did to overcome some of the minor conditional obstacles in the specific post about it.

There is hope as the technique is affordable and able to be mass produced using modern materials and processes. They are hand made by the guy, but high quality.

I am making measurements on my 1969 rim blow to compare as I think the inlay in 1969 is a tad wider.

Once I have communicated back with the guy, additional details will be forthcoming.

I will say, I am very happy with the results. I don’t have the test of time yet, but it is a heck of a lot better than the old leather wrap wheel cover that was on there.

1951 Series 62 Sedan
1969 Eldorado
1970 Eldorado (Triple Black w/power roof)
1958 Apache 3/4 ton 4x4
2005 F250
2014 FLHP
2014 SRX

Bill Balkie 24172

Hello Jim ,
      That is very interesting. When those wheels are right they are beautiful .  I think the biggest reason for those wheels deteriorating are drivers picking at them over the years . I am sure the sun has a lot to do with it as well. Fortunately my wheel is in very good condition . And it is original . 2500 dollars is a lot of money to pay to restore a wheel . I wish I could go back in time to study the process . If someone could get that price down to 4 to 6 hundred dollars there is a whole lot of wheels out there that look like hell . There must of been a terrific amount of money  in tooling to manufacture those wheels . It would be a good nitch for somebody .

      Bill
Bill Balkie
1970 Coupe DeVille
2009 CTS

The Tassie Devil(le)

I wonder just how many people got into trouble simply because they didn't have a clue how to operate the horns in these Rim-blow wheel fitted cars?

Or, just the reverse, how many drivers got the fright of their lives when they accidentally operated the horns when gripping the wheel really hard?

Bruce. >:D
'72 Eldorado Convertible (LHD)
'70 Ranchero Squire (RHD)
'74 Chris Craft Gull Wing (SH)
'02 VX Series II Holden Commodore SS Sedan
(Past President Modified Chapter)

Past Cars of significance - to me
1935 Ford 3 Window Coupe
1936 Ford 5 Window Coupe
1937 Chevrolet Sports Coupe
1955 Chevrolet Convertible
1959 Ford Fairlane Ranch Wagon
1960 Cadillac CDV
1972 Cadillac Eldorado Coupe

wrench

Quote from: The Tassie Devil(le) on March 09, 2020, 09:33:37 PM
I wonder just how many people got into trouble simply because they didn't have a clue how to operate the horns in these Rim-blow wheel fitted cars?

Or, just the reverse, how many drivers got the fright of their lives when they accidentally operated the horns when gripping the wheel really hard?

Bruce. >:D

Currently doing research on whether I want to reactivate the rim blow on my 1969. You listed two concerns. Another was that after some time and usage, simple temperature changes would cause the switch to actuate and blow the horn randomly and uncommanded
1951 Series 62 Sedan
1969 Eldorado
1970 Eldorado (Triple Black w/power roof)
1958 Apache 3/4 ton 4x4
2005 F250
2014 FLHP
2014 SRX

The Tassie Devil(le)

I have never heard of any rim-blow horns going off on their own.

Bruce. >:D
'72 Eldorado Convertible (LHD)
'70 Ranchero Squire (RHD)
'74 Chris Craft Gull Wing (SH)
'02 VX Series II Holden Commodore SS Sedan
(Past President Modified Chapter)

Past Cars of significance - to me
1935 Ford 3 Window Coupe
1936 Ford 5 Window Coupe
1937 Chevrolet Sports Coupe
1955 Chevrolet Convertible
1959 Ford Fairlane Ranch Wagon
1960 Cadillac CDV
1972 Cadillac Eldorado Coupe

Bill Balkie 24172

Hello ,
    How exactly does the rim- blow horn work ?

     Bill
Bill Balkie
1970 Coupe DeVille
2009 CTS

The Tassie Devil(le)

Bill,

The inside circumference on the outer rim contains a squeezable inlay, that when pressed by the fingertips or the thumb, anywhere around the inside of said rim, closes an internal continuous contact, resulting in the horn relay being energised, thus blowing the horn/s.

The inlay looks like a 1/4" wide rubber strip.

Bruce. >:D
'72 Eldorado Convertible (LHD)
'70 Ranchero Squire (RHD)
'74 Chris Craft Gull Wing (SH)
'02 VX Series II Holden Commodore SS Sedan
(Past President Modified Chapter)

Past Cars of significance - to me
1935 Ford 3 Window Coupe
1936 Ford 5 Window Coupe
1937 Chevrolet Sports Coupe
1955 Chevrolet Convertible
1959 Ford Fairlane Ranch Wagon
1960 Cadillac CDV
1972 Cadillac Eldorado Coupe

Bill Balkie 24172

Hello Bruce ,
    I guess they were problematic or to expensive to make and redesigned for 70 .

     Bill
Bill Balkie
1970 Coupe DeVille
2009 CTS

76eldo

I’ve seen ads on Facebook for a guy making the wood inlay for about $300.00.
Brian Rachlin
Huntingdon Valley, Pa
I prefer email's not PM's rachlin@comcast.net

1960 62 Series Conv with Factory Tri Power
1970 DeVille Conv
1970 Eldo
1970 Caribu (?) "The Cadmino"
1973 Eldorado Conv Pace Car
1976 Eldorado Conv
1980 Eldorado H & E Conv
1993 Allante with Hardtop (X2)
2008 DTS
2012 CTS Coupe
2017 XT
1956 Thunderbird
1966 Olds Toronado

cadillacmike68

Quote from: wrefakis on March 07, 2020, 10:57:09 AM
an idea for 70 fans, lets post our best 70 photos be nice to see some real ones, I am in if you are? facebook? clc?

So Will, where are Your pics??
Regards,
"Cadillac" Mike

wrefakis

I have posted the bayberry 70 on this page

cadillacmike68

Yes, I just saw that.

Where's the Fleetwood Brougham?
Regards,
"Cadillac" Mike

wrefakis

18 416 original miles still with 1971 inspection sticker

dochawk

Quote from: D.Smith on March 07, 2020, 07:07:07 PM
How about one of each?     


It's fascinating the difference that color makes.

My immediate reaction to the white one in the first picture is that the fins are two long (extending too far past the trunk).

But in every other color, I think they look great . . .

(says the guy whose there caddies are all white . . .)

1972 Eldorado convertible,  1997 Eldorado ETC (now awaiting parts swap from '95 donor), 1993 Fleetwood but no 1926 (yet)

dochawk

Quote from: The Tassie Devil(le) on March 09, 2020, 09:33:37 PM
I wonder just how many people got into trouble simply because they didn't have a clue how to operate the horns in these Rim-blow wheel fitted cars?

We bought the van new in '02, and I *still* set off the horn regularly when reaching across it.

Must be a size thing, as no-one else has had that issue.

But my '93 Fleetwood is longer, and gives me far more room as a driver . . . (first car I've had that actually fits me since the '70s land yachts . . . I can lift my elbow without hitting the door or window, and put the visor to the side and drive with my hat on, too)

The oddest horn I've ever driven was the '83 cougar:  you had to push the turn signal in, as it had a nifty-crystally inset on the steering wheel hub.

Tough to remember in an emergency, and then, once you got used to it and drove something else, you attacked the turn signals in emergencies . . . ::)

1972 Eldorado convertible,  1997 Eldorado ETC (now awaiting parts swap from '95 donor), 1993 Fleetwood but no 1926 (yet)

Quentin Hall

All this talk of rim blow horns going off without warning. I’ll best say nothing.
53 Eldo #319
53 Eldo #412.
53 Eldo #433
57 Biarritz
53 series 62 conv
39 Sixty Special Custom
57 Biarritz

cadillacmike68

Regards,
"Cadillac" Mike