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Fuel line hose 1962 Coupe DeVille

Started by 62devillecoupe, April 26, 2020, 02:24:36 PM

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fishnjim

Cantankerous old man;
So long as there's a rolled edge, it's satisfies the clamp requirements.   Too many(nearly all) get modified to some extent.   ~60 years worth of changes by owners, some forced by part suppliers.   Part suppliers "obsolete" things, so some OEM you can't even obtain after a certain point.   Easier to sell a length of tubing than a bent fuel line.   I recall in the "daze" the stock area in the local NAPA store had all sorts of factory parts; exhaust pipes, fuel and brake lines, etc. hanging on hooks.   That's all gone away.   You could even get parts for the parts, not for last 30+ years.   Gone away with the slow mover computer inventory programs.   The book 1984 and the advent of computerized inventory share the same year.
ps: The '61 had the first full oil filter vs the "up top" partial thru '60, so is not "same" in my book, per se.   The "'63" engine would have been re-designed in '62 or before, for the '63 model year.   Also left over '62s engines were sold in '63s.

Jon S: there should be a barbed connector on your '58 fuel pump and the open end of the hose is held to with a screw clamp.  Should not have to disconnect at the line?   If not, it's been modified.   That's connector is fairly difficult to come by because it's a 45 degree bend so aligns with the fuel line.   Pictures exist.   re:''58 owners group."

35-709

"The '61 had the first full oil filter vs the "up top" partial thru '60, so is not "same" in my book, per se."

:)  Actually, 1960 was the first year for the full flow oil filter, '59 being the last year for the  "up top" partial filter.
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Jon S

Quote from: 35-709 on April 29, 2020, 10:12:36 AM
"The '61 had the first full oil filter vs the "up top" partial thru '60, so is not "same" in my book, per se."

:)  Actually, 1960 was the first year for the full flow oil filter, '59 being the last year for the  "up top" partial filter.

The car never had a barbed end at the fuel pump. Both ends were screw in threads from the Factory. This car was purchased new. I realize the Factory had variations during the production year, but this is how this car arrived.
Jon

1958 Cadillac Sedan De Ville
1973 Lincoln Continental Coupe
1981 Corvette
2004 Mustang GT

gkhashem

#23
Anyone by chance have a 1962 Shop Manual with a photo of the fuel pump?

If that special tube by Jon is  correct I would think people would take a short cut and pump on a hose and clamps. Since the pumps in just about every car by now has been changed.

So Jon say he has owned the car or his dad did when new. Maybe he is correct. My thought would be see if we are lucky enough to find a photo in the shop manual. Maybe maybe not.

I will look at my 1959 since I did change the original fuel pump about 5 years ago. It was the real one since it had a trace of blue on it still on the bottom and had the AC Delco cap on it.
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Jon S

#24
Quote from: gkhashem on April 29, 2020, 12:45:30 PM
Anyone by chance have a 1962 Shop Manual with a photo of the fuel pump?

If that special tube by Jon is  correct I would think people would take a short cut and pump on a hose and clamps. Since the pumps in just about every car by now has been changed.

So Jon say he has owned the car or his dad did when new. Maybe he is correct. My thought would be see if we are lucky enough to find a photo in the shop manual. Maybe maybe not.

I will look at my 1959 since I did change the original fuel pump about 5 years ago. It was the real one since it had a trace of blue on it still on the bottom and had the AC Delco cap on it.

Here’s the only pictures I can find in the 1958 Shop Manual. Looks to me as the fuel line is screwed directly into the fuel pump. No “barb” end.

UPDATE:  Checking the 1957 Shop Manual, the fuel line hookup was different. Picture 3. Am anxious to see a 1962 Shop Manual picture as George suggests.
Jon

1958 Cadillac Sedan De Ville
1973 Lincoln Continental Coupe
1981 Corvette
2004 Mustang GT

quadfins

Quote from: gkhashem on April 29, 2020, 12:45:30 PM
Anyone by chance have a 1962 Shop Manual with a photo of the fuel pump?

George, the picture I posted above is from the '62 shop manual. It is grainy, but the pump, hose, and Corbin clamp are visible.

Jim
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1961 Coupe de Ville
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quadfins

This from the Master Parts book:

Shows 57 & 58 fuel lines as specific parts, 59 - 65 as hose, available in 25 foot rolls.

More pics in remote sections of the 62 shop manual show views similar to the one I posted earlier. I can scan and post if interested...

Very much simplified from '59 on. There was a ridged fitting on the fuel pump inlet, to which the basic 9/16 OD hose was clamped.

Fuel line from filter to carb was a metal pipe, different style and part # between Carter & Rochester carbs.

There is, also, a special clamp used to hold the fuel hose away from the accessory belts. This is often left out after water pump or engine repairs.

Jim

Jim Eccleston
1961 Coupe de Ville
BATILAC
Senior Crown
DeCou Driving Award x 4

Jon S

Here’s a picture of my 1958 setup:
Jon

1958 Cadillac Sedan De Ville
1973 Lincoln Continental Coupe
1981 Corvette
2004 Mustang GT

Caddyholic

Here is a picture of my 62 set up and the fitting in question. The answer is use stock 5/16 fuel hose and Corbin clamps. My 61 has the same set up.
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1961 Series 62 Convertible Coupe http://bit.ly/1RCYsVZ
1962 Coupe Deville

Jon S

Looks like Corbin clamp and new tubing is the way to go. Is there a Corbin clamp on the other end of the hose too?  A lot easier hose to change than mine!
Jon

1958 Cadillac Sedan De Ville
1973 Lincoln Continental Coupe
1981 Corvette
2004 Mustang GT

Caddyholic

Yes the other end has a Corbin clamp. The steel line back to the tank has a barb/ double flare/ or what ever you want to call it.
I got myself a Cadillac but I can't afford the gasoline (AC/DC Down Payment Blues)

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