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Front seat bench

Started by jwwseville60, October 14, 2023, 10:53:41 AM

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jwwseville60

On every 1960s Caddy I own, 1960,1961,1963...I have had to unbolt the front seat bench and move it back 2––3 inches. Well, my mechanic did anyway. What a pain.

Im only 6 ft. tall.
Why did Cadillac make the front seat bench so cramped?
Anyone know?
Lifetime CLC

David Greenburg

I've wondered the same thing. I think we were collectively shorter back in those days, and they were designing for the average Joe and Joanne.
David Greenburg
'60 Eldorado Seville
'61 Fleetwood Sixty Special

Clewisiii

It is also our width. The distance from the pedal to back of the seat is a blend of height and waistline.
"My interest is in the future, because I am going to spend the rest of my life there."  Charles Kettering

Michael Petti

I thought I was the only one. At 5ft 7inches I feel too crowded and I thought I had installed the 6 way seat wrong.

David Greenburg

If you really want to feel cramped, try the front seat of a Series 75 limo w/divider. People must have recruited their chauffeurs from retired jockeys.
David Greenburg
'60 Eldorado Seville
'61 Fleetwood Sixty Special

Lexi

Yes, perhaps Cadillac sacrificed some front cabin space to increase the size of the rear "salon" area, (as they called it). Not much room up front in some of those older cars. Clay/Lexi

jwwseville60

Well, GM left room for moving it back at least.
Lifetime CLC

Lexi

#7
Yes they did John. But in the case of my Limo for example, they also shortened the rear deck (hence trunk size), to further enlarge the rear seat area, in addition to a factory stretch & an extended wheelbase of 149.75 inches. I always thought that it affected the look of the car as it has made them appear a bit on the "stubby" side in the rear quarters. Even though the Series 75s back then are longer cars than the Series 62s, most of the later had body lines that tend to flow better with the deeper trunk. Those Series 62s arguably do look better at least in some respects, rear exterior, (but not interior IMO). Clay/Lexi

64\/54Cadillacking

I find the same odd issue with legroom in my '64. How can these cars be so long with a massive wheelbase with not much leg room for tall people to stretch out? It's definitely a styling issue I believe or possibly the X-Frame chassis somehow interfering with interior roominess.

Because it looks starting from 1959-64, the interior legroom on those specific years was not that good at all for above average height of and adult male.

Compared to my '54 Fleetwood, that car has legroom for days. It's literally a mini limo when sitting in the back seat. So much room to stretch out and the interior  hip room is absolutely massive.

Front seat legroom is equally as spacious with lots of legroom up front. The low transmission tunnel height also makes it easy and comfortable for someone to sit in the middle seat without their knees hitting them in the face.
Currently Rides:
1964 Sedan Deville
1954 Cadillac Fleetwood 60 Special
1979 Lincoln Mark V Cartier Designer Series
2007 Lexus LS 460L (extended wheelbase edition)

Previous Rides:
1987 Brougham D' Elegance
1994 Fleetwood Bro
1972 Sedan Deville
1968 Coupe Deville
1961 Lincoln Continental
1993 Lincoln Town Car Signature Series
1978 Lincoln Continental ( R.I.P.) 1978-2024 😞

jwwseville60

Perhaps design changes for safety. Also, the 61-64 cars were lower and sleeker, which probably hurt interior room.
Lifetime CLC

Steve W

My 68 Coupe deVille came from the factory with two front seat mounting locations!! I was able to re-mount the seat myself farther back, and now it fits just right! (Apparently it was a 'customer convenience option' that your dealer would do free of charge, back in the day). And, luckily, my car has the tilt/telescopic steering wheel option, so its infinitely adjustable, and very comfy for guys like me. The tilt feature makes getting in and out of the car a breeze too! That's just one reason why I prefer a hardtop coupe over a sedan of ANY classic make...longer front door!

I'm just a hair under 6'6" and have ALWAYS had to relocate the front seats in my cars. On my 66 GTO convertible, I had to have the seats removed and steel skids bolted in to move the seat rearward. Same with my 68 Camaro SS convertible. I could have had them welded in, but I wanted to make the modification reversible to a potential next owner. I was prepared to do the same with my CdV, until I read the chassis manual! What a relief. (The only other vehicle I have that has plenty of legroom is my good old 03 Tahoe!)
Steve Waddington
1968 Coupe deVille
North Hollywood, CA
CLC Member # 32866

The Tassie Devil(le)

Quote from: Steve W on December 23, 2023, 11:04:17 PM...... That's just one reason why I prefer a hardtop coupe over a sedan of ANY classic make...longer front door!....
Except when parking in most any modern car parks, especially shopping centres where that extra length of door is a real pain.

Bruce. >:D
'72 Eldorado Convertible (LHD)
'70 Ranchero Squire (RHD)
'74 Chris Craft Gull Wing (SH)
'02 VX Series II Holden Commodore SS Sedan
(Past President Modified Chapter)

Past Cars of significance - to me
1935 Ford 3 Window Coupe
1936 Ford 5 Window Coupe
1937 Chevrolet Sports Coupe
1955 Chevrolet Convertible
1959 Ford Fairlane Ranch Wagon
1960 Cadillac CDV
1972 Cadillac Eldorado Coupe

Julien Abrahams

Try parking in the average European size car parking spot ;).
And parking garages I cannot get in, because the bends are too tight. Well a good excuse to use two parking spaces (which people actually do not mind when they look at the car).
1951 Buick Eight special
1954 Cadillac series 62
1967 Cadillac Sedan De Ville HT
1969 Austin Healey Sprite
1979 Opel Kadett

Steve W

Luckily for me, here in So California, that's not an issue!  However, finding a parking spot that's deep enough can sometimes be!  ;D
Steve Waddington
1968 Coupe deVille
North Hollywood, CA
CLC Member # 32866

76Caddy

It's not only the 60's but 70's as well.  I'm 6'0 and feel cramped in my Fleetwood but there's plenty of room in the back and my Seville was not meant for big people at all (tall or fat).

Tim
Tim Plummer
CLC #18948
1967 Eldorado
1976 Brougham
1976 Seville
2019 XT5
1969 Chevy c/10 pickup
1971 Chevy Impala