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Early Hydra-Matic Transmission Fluid

Started by Michael Brittan CLC #2750, March 31, 2024, 08:35:43 PM

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Cadillac Jack 82

Personally Dex/Merc III work fine with the gals.  Had a hard shift in the 55 but added some Lucas and boom...gone.
Tim

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1948 Buick 76S "Lillian"
1950 Cadillac CDV "Doris"
1959 Cadillac CDV "Shelley"

Past Cars

1937 LaSalle Coupe
1955 Cadillac CDV
1957 Cadillac Series 62 Coupe
1964 Cadillac SDV

and a bunch of others...

Michael Brittan CLC #2750

The ATF transfusion took place as planned.  The transmission took 12.5 quarts of the Dex/Merc, just like the shop manual says it should.  I have only managed to put a few miles on the car since.  My initial impression is that there is a small improvement in the 2-3 shift, but more extensive driving is required when time and weather permit. I'll report again when I have racked up some more miles.
M Brittan
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Michael Brittan CLC #2750

Latest update:  After a few more miles on the road, my initial impressions following the ATF transfusion remain - i.e. a small improvement.  Tim's observation that Lucas treatment fixed the hard shift on his '55 is interesting, and may be worth trying, though possibly counterintuitive.  I would expect the Lucas additive to increase the viscosity (as per TJ Hopland's post) and therefore maybe exacerbate a hard shift.  On the other hand, maybe a slightly more viscous fluid might slow down the mechanical transition involved in the 2-3 shift and therefore be of benefit.  Any words of wisdom before I try this?
M Brittan
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TJ Hopland

I don't think we know if the issues is its too thick or too thin for the hydraulic parts or if its too sticky or too slippery for the clutch and band parts so you just have to try both and see which helps. I think that is one of the interesting things about ATF, it kinda has to be all 4 things at the same time.
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Upnorth

Hello Everyone I was just reading on here about the transmission to carb linkage Adjustment my 47 seems to shift at a slow speed

I was wondering if any one knew do I make the rod shorter or longer to increase the rpm the transmission shifts at?

Thanks Kindly Al

Michael Brittan CLC #2750

Al, if you Google "Early Hydramatic changing shift points" you will find references to the question in many threads.

On my ATF experimenting, I'm planning to try the Lucas additive late next week.  I'll report back.
M Brittan
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Michael Brittan CLC #2750

After further driving, I conclude that the Lucas additve made no detectable difference, but that changing the transmission fluid resulted in a small improvement in the 2-3 shift.  I would say the shifting is now reasonably smooth and acceptable.  Any further refinement would likely take someone with good experience with band adjustment.
M Brittan
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