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1969/70 Cadillac "Power Roof" vs "Sun Roof"

Started by Tonyv_73, September 09, 2024, 03:25:54 PM

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Tonyv_73

I am doing research for a 1969 eldorado with a factory sunroof.  I need to replace the "sun roof" switch and noticed that some reference material show the factory style switch as saying "SUN ROOF OPN/CLS" and others say "POWER ROOF OPN/CLS" im not entirely sure why or how this change happened but I felt it necessary to document...

1. the 1970 sunroof service manual and operating Manuel write "sun roof" on the switch
2. ive come across atleast three 1970 cars with "Power Roof" as the switch
3. I've seen some 1967/68 cars with the switch on the knee bolster
4. does the 1969 switch look identical to 1970 or is the orientation switched similarly to the convertible top switch (which comes either in a left or right orientation for 69/70)
5. the service bulliten in 1969 does state "sunroof" operation. but i do not own it to search...

1963 Series 62 Convertible
1965 Eldorado
1966 Calais Sedan
1970 Fleetwood Brougham
1970 Wildcat
1970 Coupe Deville
1973 Eldorado Convertible
1974 Coupe Deville
1976 Coupe Deville
1981 Eldorado Biarritz
1985 Eldorado Commemorative Edition
1991 Brougham
1993 Eldorado 4.9
1996 Fleetwood Brougham
2006 XLR
2006 DTS
2014 XTS

Tonyv_73

Quote from: Cadillac Fleetwood on March 31, 2019, 05:31:08 PMThe 1970-only sunroof operating switch came in two varieties: one is labeled "Sun Roof" with "Sun" appearing over "Roof", and the other type is labeled "Power Roof" with "Power" appearing over "Roof". Both toggle from the neutral position to OPN or CLS.  Unfortunately, in the past, I gutted these to repair convertible top switches, since the "guts" are the same as what's inside the top switches, and the top switches were not being reproduced back then.  I still have the switch faces/toggles.  I'll take a photo and post.

Charles Fares
from another post, does anyone know if Charles Fares is still around?
1963 Series 62 Convertible
1965 Eldorado
1966 Calais Sedan
1970 Fleetwood Brougham
1970 Wildcat
1970 Coupe Deville
1973 Eldorado Convertible
1974 Coupe Deville
1976 Coupe Deville
1981 Eldorado Biarritz
1985 Eldorado Commemorative Edition
1991 Brougham
1993 Eldorado 4.9
1996 Fleetwood Brougham
2006 XLR
2006 DTS
2014 XTS

Cadman-iac

Quote from: Tonyv_73 on September 09, 2024, 05:14:43 PMfrom another post, does anyone know if Charles Fares is still around?

 Unfortunately Charles passed away last year if I remember correctly.

  Rick
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1956 Coupe Deville A/C car "Norma Jean"

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It may be two years now. I sure miss him and his detailed knowledge of these cars. He also had the nicest parts around.
Current:
1976 Eldorado Convertible in Crystal Blue Fire Mist with white interior and top. (Misty Blue)

Past and much missed:
1977 Brougham de Elegance
1976 Eldorado Convertible
1972 Fleetwood Brougham
1971 Sedan de Ville
1970 de Ville Convertible
1969 Fleetwood Brougham
1969 Sedan de Ville
1959 Sedan deVille

Jeff Rosansky CLC #28373

Interesting.
I thought the roofs weren't an option until 1970.
Was this a retrofit by chance, or a really late 69?
Jeff Rose
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1970 Coupe DeVille (Big Red)
1955 Series 62 (Baby Blue)
Dad's new 1979 Coupe DeVille

Eric DeVirgilis CLC# 8621

Sunroof isn't even mentioned anywhere in the 1970 specs/ordering manuals or in sales literature. I've always understood it to be introduced late in 1970 production. It's difficult to imagine it could have been available in 1969 from the factory.
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mrcady









The sunroofs on my 1977 & 1978 Eldorados are after market installed by American sunroofs in Mich. The cars were shipped from the factory complete less the headliner. The converted vehicle was sent to the dealer. My 1979 Eldorado has a true factory astro roof as they were then called , not to be confused with Lincoln's moon roof
Tom Sandstrom CLC#8571

Eric DeVirgilis CLC# 8621

Quote from: mrcady on September 10, 2024, 01:40:17 PMThe sunroofs on my 1977 & 1978 Eldorados are after market installed by American sunroofs in Mich. The cars were shipped from the factory complete less the headliner. The converted vehicle was sent to the dealer. My 1979 Eldorado has a true factory astro roof as they were then called , not to be confused with Lincoln's moon roof

GM outsourced sunroof/astroroof installation to American Sunroof Corporation (ASC) so technically not "aftermarket". The 84/85 Eldorado and 82-85 Riviera convertibles were also done by ASC for GM.
A Cadillac Motorcar is a Possession for which there is no Acceptable Substitute