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Removing Hinge Pins

Started by Clewisiii, December 17, 2024, 05:53:03 PM

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Clewisiii

Can anyone talk through the process of removing hinge pins. Should I be able to beat them out or will a press be necessary.

Bonus if you have pictures.
"My interest is in the future, because I am going to spend the rest of my life there."  Charles Kettering

The Tassie Devil(le)

I can relate to 1971 and 1972 but I would say that others will be the same.

The pins will be swaged after they pass through the last part of the hinge.   This swage will need to be ground off before pressing out the pin.   And then reswaged when the job is completed.

Bruce. >:D
'72 Eldorado Convertible (LHD)
'70 Ranchero Squire (RHD)
'74 Chris Craft Gull Wing (SH)
'02 VX Series II Holden Commodore SS Sedan
(Past President Modified Chapter)

Past Cars of significance - to me
1935 Ford 3 Window Coupe
1936 Ford 5 Window Coupe
1937 Chevrolet Sports Coupe
1955 Chevrolet Convertible
1959 Ford Fairlane Ranch Wagon
1960 Cadillac CDV
1972 Cadillac Eldorado Coupe

Clewisiii

Pics of mine. I do not have a flat swaged side. It might be mushroomed.

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"My interest is in the future, because I am going to spend the rest of my life there."  Charles Kettering

The Tassie Devil(le)

What do your replacement pins look like?   That is, if you have replacements.

There is another possibility in that the pin, just under the head could be knurled so as to use this as a method of retainment.

But, the look of the end does look like a swaging of the whole end.

Bruce. >:D
'72 Eldorado Convertible (LHD)
'70 Ranchero Squire (RHD)
'74 Chris Craft Gull Wing (SH)
'02 VX Series II Holden Commodore SS Sedan
(Past President Modified Chapter)

Past Cars of significance - to me
1935 Ford 3 Window Coupe
1936 Ford 5 Window Coupe
1937 Chevrolet Sports Coupe
1955 Chevrolet Convertible
1959 Ford Fairlane Ranch Wagon
1960 Cadillac CDV
1972 Cadillac Eldorado Coupe

Clewisiii

There is a kit for front door at caddy Daddy. No kit for rear door. Only the fronts really have any play so I think I am going to just do them.
"My interest is in the future, because I am going to spend the rest of my life there."  Charles Kettering

The Tassie Devil(le)

Quote from: Clewisiii on December 17, 2024, 08:24:07 PMThere is a kit for front door at caddy Daddy. No kit for rear door. Only the fronts really have any play so I think I am going to just do them.
Rock Auto has the replacement bushings for both front and rear doors, but no pins.

Bruce. >:D
'72 Eldorado Convertible (LHD)
'70 Ranchero Squire (RHD)
'74 Chris Craft Gull Wing (SH)
'02 VX Series II Holden Commodore SS Sedan
(Past President Modified Chapter)

Past Cars of significance - to me
1935 Ford 3 Window Coupe
1936 Ford 5 Window Coupe
1937 Chevrolet Sports Coupe
1955 Chevrolet Convertible
1959 Ford Fairlane Ranch Wagon
1960 Cadillac CDV
1972 Cadillac Eldorado Coupe

dn010

#6
I did some of the pins on my 57. They were knurled under the head. The end of the pin is just tapered (not swaged). I used a punch and a hammer to hammer the pins out, same method to get the new ones in. If you find yourself having some difficulty, heating the hinge up with some MAPP will help greatly.
-----Dan B.
'57 Cadillac Sedan Deville 6239DX
'81 DMC DeLorean

Clewisiii

Well one is pushing out nicely in the press.
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The other one is doing something interesting. The pin is not moving but the head broke off. Maybe i can press it in the other direction now.
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"My interest is in the future, because I am going to spend the rest of my life there."  Charles Kettering

Clewisiii

"My interest is in the future, because I am going to spend the rest of my life there."  Charles Kettering

The Tassie Devil(le)

Looks like heating is required.   Never seen a head come off like that.

I notice that the one you moved has beautiful ferrules at the head to maintain retention.

Bruce. >:D
'72 Eldorado Convertible (LHD)
'70 Ranchero Squire (RHD)
'74 Chris Craft Gull Wing (SH)
'02 VX Series II Holden Commodore SS Sedan
(Past President Modified Chapter)

Past Cars of significance - to me
1935 Ford 3 Window Coupe
1936 Ford 5 Window Coupe
1937 Chevrolet Sports Coupe
1955 Chevrolet Convertible
1959 Ford Fairlane Ranch Wagon
1960 Cadillac CDV
1972 Cadillac Eldorado Coupe

dn010

#10
These pins are decades old, probably rusted between the pin and hinge wall. Heat it up well with mapp, they'll come out. As a bonus, you can heat up the bent end of the punch until it is yellow-orange and straighten it out while you're at it.
-----Dan B.
'57 Cadillac Sedan Deville 6239DX
'81 DMC DeLorean

The Tassie Devil(le)

Don't forget to temper the end when finished straightening.

Get it up to temperature and then quench in oil.

Bruce. >:D
'72 Eldorado Convertible (LHD)
'70 Ranchero Squire (RHD)
'74 Chris Craft Gull Wing (SH)
'02 VX Series II Holden Commodore SS Sedan
(Past President Modified Chapter)

Past Cars of significance - to me
1935 Ford 3 Window Coupe
1936 Ford 5 Window Coupe
1937 Chevrolet Sports Coupe
1955 Chevrolet Convertible
1959 Ford Fairlane Ranch Wagon
1960 Cadillac CDV
1972 Cadillac Eldorado Coupe

Jeff Rosansky CLC #28373

I ended up just removing the hinge and used a vice and a socket to press mine out.
This was on the 70.
Jeff Rose
CLC #28373
1970 Coupe DeVille (Big Red)
1955 Series 62 (Baby Blue)
Dad's new 1979 Coupe DeVille

dn010

He is using a press to get them out which is probably the best way but of course the china punch couldn't handle it when the pin hit resistance.
-----Dan B.
'57 Cadillac Sedan Deville 6239DX
'81 DMC DeLorean

Classic

Summit Racing offers a "Bob Drake Hinge Pin Pullers TL-100".
Hinge pin puller.  Other vendors sell the same tool as well. It will work in some applications, but not all.  It will not work with hinge pins that have a large diameter head (ask me how I know).
Gene
Gene Menne
CLC #474