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Heater hose and power steering hose question....

Started by Cape Cod Fleetwood, March 18, 2018, 12:48:35 AM

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Cape Cod Fleetwood

#20
OK, accidental day off let me spend the day with The Ark... I had so much fun. So relaxing, just a blast.

Changed the return hose on the power steering. Started off by covering the areas around the pump with towels and giving it a good spray with brake cleaner to clean it for painting. Also gave that tower clamp a good spray of WD40 so it would come off. Realized why the bottom worm clamp was on upside down - because you can crawl under the car and get to it very easily. Took the bottom one off first, put a vise grip on the hose to stop the flood and 'capped' the line with a plastic sandwich bag tight to the end with a rubber band.

Tower clamp loosened right up and slid back, hose was welded to the pump, starting cutting it off with my box cutter, sandwich bag and rubber band at the ready. Hose was cut off and immediately noticed the fluid coming out was jet black. Didn't I just 'change' this fluid? Heck with it, let it all drain out, D6 is cheap. Cleaned the end really well.

Cut the new hose to the exact length of the old hose, put my clamps on with some tension on each end so I wouldn't have to chase them. Put the pump side on first, pretty snug but got it on and to the same spot as the old one. Clamp a 1/4" from the end, and tightened 1 more turn past "that's tight enough".

Crawled under the car and slide the other end on, right to the spot the old was. Tightened the worm clamp the same way as above.

I had already spray painted the pump so I'm being pretty careful with the D6. Used a funnel and way over filled it. Turkey baster to remove excess fluid, capped, start car and start the wheel turning side to side in gear. Boy did she groan a few times. Checked the fluid, it got really foamy, too much fluid, sucked more out. Repeat. Still foamy. Removed more, repeat. Pump quieted down and fluid level stayed at the 'hot' line after about a dozen runs with the car in gear, foot on brake, and turning all the way left and right a dozen times. Fluid stopped being foamy. No leaks!  :)

Question: when the car is running and in PARK, the wheels seem to have a greater range of motion left and right than when its in GEAR and I'm turning the wheels. Yes I'm long and agile enough to have a foot on the ground, a foot on the brake, and turn the wheel fully left and right.

Is this normal or do I still have an air bubble in there? If I still have air in the system will more 'exercising' of the steering while in gear eventually get it out?

Before and after pics below. 35-709, all I had was gloss paint, not semi, oh well. It still looks better!

\m/
Laurie


There are 2 kinds of cars in the world, Cadillac and everything else....

The Present -1970 Fleetwood Brougham

The Past -
1996 Deville Concours
1987 Sedan De Ville "Commonwealth Edition"
1981 Coupe De Ville (8-6-4)
1976 Sedan De Ville
1975 Sedan De Ville

The Daily Driver and work slave -
2008 GMC Acadia SLT *options/all

35-709

It DOES look better and will be just fine!   ;)
There is a fine line between "Hobby" and "Mental Illness".  Dave Barry.   I walk that line.
1935 Cadillac Sedan resto-mod "Big Red"
1973 Cadillac Caribou - now back home as of 9/2024
1950 Jaguar Mark V Saloon resto-mod - Sold
1942 Cadillac 6269 - Sold
1968 Pontiac Bonneville Convertible - Sold
1950 Packard 2dr. Club Sedan
1935 Glenn Pray - Auburn Boattail Speedster, Gen. 2

Cape Cod Fleetwood

Quote from: 35-709 on March 29, 2018, 08:16:44 AM
It DOES look better and will be just fine!   ;)

:-*

So the phenomena of the wheels turning 'less' while in gear than in park is nominal?

\m/
Laurie!

PS I'm going to do more spray painting in the engine back of the black. Should I just stay with the gloss
or do the rest in a semi? Continuity et al....
There are 2 kinds of cars in the world, Cadillac and everything else....

The Present -1970 Fleetwood Brougham

The Past -
1996 Deville Concours
1987 Sedan De Ville "Commonwealth Edition"
1981 Coupe De Ville (8-6-4)
1976 Sedan De Ville
1975 Sedan De Ville

The Daily Driver and work slave -
2008 GMC Acadia SLT *options/all

35-709

#23
I have not experienced the wheels turning more, or less, while in park than while in gear (but with the car not moving?).  Shouldn't make any difference if the car isn't moving. 

Any air that might still be in the system should work itself out in a short time.

IMO, if you are going to be painting quite a few other components with the black, go with the semi-gloss.  But, if you like the look of the gloss better, stay with it.  It really only makes a difference if you are having the car charged judged (sorry about that) at a Grand National and are competing for a top prize.  To everyone else the paint will look very nice (they don't know if it should be gloss or semi) and indicate you care about your car and how it looks --- which will be spiffy. 
There is a fine line between "Hobby" and "Mental Illness".  Dave Barry.   I walk that line.
1935 Cadillac Sedan resto-mod "Big Red"
1973 Cadillac Caribou - now back home as of 9/2024
1950 Jaguar Mark V Saloon resto-mod - Sold
1942 Cadillac 6269 - Sold
1968 Pontiac Bonneville Convertible - Sold
1950 Packard 2dr. Club Sedan
1935 Glenn Pray - Auburn Boattail Speedster, Gen. 2

cadillacmike68

Regards,
"Cadillac" Mike

Cape Cod Fleetwood

Quote from: 35-709 on March 29, 2018, 01:17:31 PM
I have not experienced the wheels turning more, or less, while in park than while in gear (but with the car not moving?).  Shouldn't make any difference if the car isn't moving. 

Any air that might still be in the system should work itself out in a short time.

IMO, if you are going to be painting quite a few other components with the black, go with the semi-gloss.  But, if you like the look of the gloss better, stay with it.  It really only makes a difference if you are having the car charged judged (sorry about that) at a Grand National and are competing for a top prize.  To everyone else the paint will look very nice (they don't know if it should be gloss or semi) and indicate you care about your car and how it looks --- which will be spiffy.

I want to do the area over the front wheels, air cleaner, the cross bars, etc. 'gloss' might be too much with everything else pretty flat. At this point, what's another $10 for more Rustoleum. My plan is to brush off any rust with a steel brush, wipe off, hit with POR15, then SEMI GLOSS black Rustoleum.

\m/
Laurie!
There are 2 kinds of cars in the world, Cadillac and everything else....

The Present -1970 Fleetwood Brougham

The Past -
1996 Deville Concours
1987 Sedan De Ville "Commonwealth Edition"
1981 Coupe De Ville (8-6-4)
1976 Sedan De Ville
1975 Sedan De Ville

The Daily Driver and work slave -
2008 GMC Acadia SLT *options/all

35-709

There is a fine line between "Hobby" and "Mental Illness".  Dave Barry.   I walk that line.
1935 Cadillac Sedan resto-mod "Big Red"
1973 Cadillac Caribou - now back home as of 9/2024
1950 Jaguar Mark V Saloon resto-mod - Sold
1942 Cadillac 6269 - Sold
1968 Pontiac Bonneville Convertible - Sold
1950 Packard 2dr. Club Sedan
1935 Glenn Pray - Auburn Boattail Speedster, Gen. 2

Cape Cod Fleetwood

There are 2 kinds of cars in the world, Cadillac and everything else....

The Present -1970 Fleetwood Brougham

The Past -
1996 Deville Concours
1987 Sedan De Ville "Commonwealth Edition"
1981 Coupe De Ville (8-6-4)
1976 Sedan De Ville
1975 Sedan De Ville

The Daily Driver and work slave -
2008 GMC Acadia SLT *options/all

cadillacmike68

Laurie,

The steering wheel should be 3 full rotations  lock to lock. Now, while moving, it might appear to not want to go that far, but you should be just able to make 1 & 1/2 wheel turns from straight on in each direction.
Regards,
"Cadillac" Mike

Cape Cod Fleetwood

Quote from: cadillacmike68 on April 02, 2018, 08:26:27 PM
Laurie,

The steering wheel should be 3 full rotations  lock to lock. Now, while moving, it might appear to not want to go that far, but you should be just able to make 1 & 1/2 wheel turns from straight on in each direction.

Thanks Mike! That sounds about right, I'll try it again my next free minute.
\m/
Laurie
There are 2 kinds of cars in the world, Cadillac and everything else....

The Present -1970 Fleetwood Brougham

The Past -
1996 Deville Concours
1987 Sedan De Ville "Commonwealth Edition"
1981 Coupe De Ville (8-6-4)
1976 Sedan De Ville
1975 Sedan De Ville

The Daily Driver and work slave -
2008 GMC Acadia SLT *options/all