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Carl 61 Fleetwood Phyllis

Started by Clewisiii, January 20, 2020, 09:10:55 AM

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Clewisiii

"My interest is in the future, because I am going to spend the rest of my life there."  Charles Kettering

Clewisiii

Just putting on the tower clamps so I could look at them. 
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And just realized I had completely forgotten about the oil pressure sensor.  I will need to pick one up. IMG_20230718_191418655.jpg
"My interest is in the future, because I am going to spend the rest of my life there."  Charles Kettering

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@Clewisiii  Carl, what is your source for the tower clamps?

Quote from: Clewisiii on July 18, 2023, 07:18:17 PMJust putting on the tower clamps so I could look at them. 
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And just realized I had completely forgotten about the oil pressure sensor.  I will need to pick one up. IMG_20230718_191418655.jpg

1962 Cadillac Series 62
1965 Pontiac Bonneville

Clewisiii

"My interest is in the future, because I am going to spend the rest of my life there."  Charles Kettering

Clewisiii

Of course they are not really installed. But my wires are here.
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I also got the body ground straps but I will need to clean some paint to give them a good connection.IMG_20230719_185714184.jpg
"My interest is in the future, because I am going to spend the rest of my life there."  Charles Kettering

Clewisiii

You know.  Looking at my under radiator shield.  I think I can repair this.  The only real damage is in the flatter area.  I think all I would need is a bead roller to make a patch for this area. 

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"My interest is in the future, because I am going to spend the rest of my life there."  Charles Kettering

The Tassie Devil(le)

I agree.   Shouldn't be difficult to create the replacement piece and weld it into the original panel.

Even if you create a complete new piece, and cut out the awkwardly pressed parts, and weld them into the new piece.   A lot less welding involved in going down this route.

Looking at the pictures, it looks like there is a large area with small holes than just the heavily ventilated edge.

Bruce. >:D
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'70 Ranchero Squire (RHD)
'74 Chris Craft Gull Wing (SH)
'02 VX Series II Holden Commodore SS Sedan
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Past Cars of significance - to me
1935 Ford 3 Window Coupe
1936 Ford 5 Window Coupe
1937 Chevrolet Sports Coupe
1955 Chevrolet Convertible
1959 Ford Fairlane Ranch Wagon
1960 Cadillac CDV
1972 Cadillac Eldorado Coupe

Roger Zimmermann

If you are a bit creative with simple tools, you will be able to recreate the outer edge. Sure, I'm thinking like doing a part for a scale model but the same "technique" can be applied to real cars. Take some more time than a bead roller...Either you spend the money or the time!
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1956 Eldorado Biarritz
1957 Eldorado Brougham (sold)
1972 Coupe de Ville
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Clewisiii

Sitting here thinking about gaping my spark plugs and resetting the distributor.  But I will need to pull it again to prime the oil before I start it in October. 

So I don't think I want to be in the shop doing that on a hot day today.  But I did lay out the plug wires. IMG_20230722_104344279_HDR.jpgIMG_20230722_104332681_HDR.jpgIMG_20230722_104327445_HDR.jpg
"My interest is in the future, because I am going to spend the rest of my life there."  Charles Kettering

Clewisiii

Haggerty Insurance quote for $30,000 agreed value was $632 a year.  If I insure now I should actually get build insurance. But I was curious what the quote would be.
"My interest is in the future, because I am going to spend the rest of my life there."  Charles Kettering

Clewisiii

I picked up my first batch of powder coated under hood components today.  This batch of Semi Gloss was not as shiny as the semigloss from the frame powder coater.  I wish it would have been a little glossier to better match original.  But I will be happy as long as they all are the same. 

This batch is everything needed to mount  the radiator. Which I will need to start the engine.  I just really hope the paint shop works to protect all this detailed engine bay work.

I will have another batch for brackets, grill support and headlight bumper supports.  But that can all be later

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"My interest is in the future, because I am going to spend the rest of my life there."  Charles Kettering

Clewisiii

I am missing one bolt on my radiator fan shroud.  Looking at my old fastener photos it looks like I only had three bagged. This is a size I have not purchased from Jason Edge so I do not have spares.

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 I will figure it out later.  But there are two more holes that would require a J nut to install a bolt.  But I have no idea what might go there.  Does anyone have an idea?

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"My interest is in the future, because I am going to spend the rest of my life there."  Charles Kettering

Clewisiii

The bottom of the radiator core support is secured by a single central body mount.  This is the only attachment to frame for everything forward of the body.  IMG_20230724_192411542.jpg


I have heard people try to claim that the IIHS crash test between a 59 Malibu and a 2009 Malibu was fake. Claiming they removed the fender bolts.  Well I have talked to the people who crashed that car. And I have seen it.  There was no trick.  Honestly they said they were surprised by the results as well. Only one point secures all that front end and fenders.
"My interest is in the future, because I am going to spend the rest of my life there."  Charles Kettering

Clewisiii

Well the next batch of parts being powder coated, I must remember the AC Condenser brackets.

It is so enjoyable just assembling things.  But I will need to build some type of fixture to hold the core support before I get the body on the frame. 

And the next batch being plated, I must remember the headlight harness bracket to core support.
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"My interest is in the future, because I am going to spend the rest of my life there."  Charles Kettering

Clewisiii

#674
If anyone happens to have a rubber grommet for the AC generator air hose at core support. I will be your best friend if you are willing to sell it. 

I have been looking for similar fittings to see if I can make something work.  I found one close but it is hard plastic. 
"My interest is in the future, because I am going to spend the rest of my life there."  Charles Kettering

Clewisiii

Man these body mounts were expensive when I bought them. More then $600. 

Laying everything out I am missing three bolts and seven square shims if I expect to have one on every body mount.  I will need to make a new list and get with Jason Edge. 

I am actually surprised this many survived. I cut a few bolts to remove the body. And a few of those washers and shims were very far gone. 


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"My interest is in the future, because I am going to spend the rest of my life there."  Charles Kettering

Clewisiii

I had ordered a supposed complete body mount set from Caddy Daddy. But they did not pair the right size square mounts with round mounts in the set.  I made them a chart showing what each Cadillac Model used then defined the mount combinations.  No mount used the combination caddy daddy sent.  There are a few sizes not available. so four mounts need to be modified.

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"My interest is in the future, because I am going to spend the rest of my life there."  Charles Kettering

Clewisiii

#677
So I am looking into how much wiring I will be able to buy. And how much I will need to build. 

Lectric Limited lists two Forward headlight harnesses.  One from firewall to core support. One from core support to headlights. 

The firewall one says I must provide the bulkhead connector. Well the AC and other wires direct connect into the bulkhead  connector.  That branch on my car was completely eaten by rodents.  I will need to call Lectric Limited to ask if that branch is included.

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"My interest is in the future, because I am going to spend the rest of my life there."  Charles Kettering

David King (kz78hy)

typically, they just need to reuse the old components/connectors.
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Clewisiii

It is hot and humid in my shop. I need to get a mini split to at least keep the humidity down.

But this has caused a slight return of the barn fresh odor that this car came with 9 years ago. I think it is either an internal body panel. Or the original trunk carpet I had stored away. 

Either way thd humidity has got to go to prevent future rust and rot
"My interest is in the future, because I am going to spend the rest of my life there."  Charles Kettering