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Oil filter assembly top brass fitting

Started by Andy Green, November 30, 2020, 11:50:05 AM

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Andy Green

I have a 57 Fleetwood series 60 and have a broken brass fitting which connects the top pipe to the assembly, would anyone have one please? Many thanks.

Andy Green

Cadman-iac

 Andy,
Not having seen the fitting, I'm not sure if there is anything special about it. It's possible that you can find one in the hardware store or a auto parts store.
Can you remove the pieces to match it up, or is part of it missing?
I have a couple of old filter housings out in one of my parts cars, but I don't remember if the fittings are still on them.
Can you post a picture of what exactly you need?

Rick
CLC# 32373
1956 Coupe Deville A/C car "Norma Jean"

 Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool.

 Remember,  no matter where you go, there you are.

Andy Green

Rick,

Thanks for coming back to me for help. There are two fittings on the filter assembly, one is on the side and the other one is underneath. It is the one on the side that I need, it does unscrew from the assembly but best to use a wide wrench as I used a small one and wrecked it around the thread area. I have taken pictures of it and will try to put one on this post.
I live in the UK Rick and am having problems trying to find anything like this part so far. Hope the file worked out, let me know if it hasn't please.

Thanks, Andy.

Andy Green

Looks like the picture worked Rick, I will send another from a different angle.

Andy

The Tassie Devil(le)

I too may have a couple, and will have a squiz in my parts section.

Bruce. >:D
'72 Eldorado Convertible (LHD)
'70 Ranchero Squire (RHD)
'74 Chris Craft Gull Wing (SH)
'02 VX Series II Holden Commodore SS Sedan
(Past President Modified Chapter)

Past Cars of significance - to me
1935 Ford 3 Window Coupe
1936 Ford 5 Window Coupe
1937 Chevrolet Sports Coupe
1955 Chevrolet Convertible
1959 Ford Fairlane Ranch Wagon
1960 Cadillac CDV
1972 Cadillac Eldorado Coupe

Cadman-iac

Hi Andy,
Yes, the picture is fine, and it appears that it's a regular fitting. I will check here now and see if I have one.
Will let you know in a moment.

Rick
CLC# 32373
1956 Coupe Deville A/C car "Norma Jean"

 Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool.

 Remember,  no matter where you go, there you are.

Cadman-iac

Ok, I have a brand new one in my collection of parts. It's a 1/8 inch pipe to 3/16 inch flared tube elbow, if you want to try and get one locally. Or you could order it from RockAuto or any other parts supplier online.
If you don't have any luck finding it that way,  I can send this one to you. I don't have any idea what the shipping costs would be though. I'm sure it would be more than what one of the places online would charge, being that they have a commercial account with every shipper in the world. And it would get there faster too.
Please let me know if you want this one. If I send it,  it would have to go through our mail system, and I have no idea how long it might take to get to you, but  I'd be glad to help out if you want it.

Rick
CLC# 32373
1956 Coupe Deville A/C car "Norma Jean"

 Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool.

 Remember,  no matter where you go, there you are.

Andy Green

Rick,
that is the same fitting, I will try Rock Autos first not to inconvenience you and take your stock. The cost of the fitting and shipping is not a problem for me Rick as I can't use the car without this. I do appreciate your help and may have to come back to you if I don't get any luck. Thanks again for your help.

Andy

Andy Green

Bruce,

Ah that is very good of you, thank you. I do appreciate your offer of help with this fitting. I do feel guilty taking someone's stock so I will try Rock Autos first as Rick suggested but may have to come back to you guys again.

Andy

The Tassie Devil(le)

#9
Hang on while I go and look, as what I can send to you can go by a cheaper method than from USA, unless you want it NOW.

Okay, before I spend a vast amount of time cleaning up the part, this is the only one I have that I can immediately find, but I have two with 1/8" Gas thread on the male side and the same large female thread.

The Male thread is 13.5 mm OD, and the Female thread is 11.5 mm Inside diameter.

Bruce. >:D
'72 Eldorado Convertible (LHD)
'70 Ranchero Squire (RHD)
'74 Chris Craft Gull Wing (SH)
'02 VX Series II Holden Commodore SS Sedan
(Past President Modified Chapter)

Past Cars of significance - to me
1935 Ford 3 Window Coupe
1936 Ford 5 Window Coupe
1937 Chevrolet Sports Coupe
1955 Chevrolet Convertible
1959 Ford Fairlane Ranch Wagon
1960 Cadillac CDV
1972 Cadillac Eldorado Coupe

Andy Green

Thanks Bruce I can wait, no problem. Can't find it on Rock Autos at the moment.

Andy

The Tassie Devil(le)

G'day Andy,

Okay, I will clean it up, and if you can PM me with your postal address, I will find out tomorrow what the postage will cost.   Then you can decide.

Bruce. >:D
'72 Eldorado Convertible (LHD)
'70 Ranchero Squire (RHD)
'74 Chris Craft Gull Wing (SH)
'02 VX Series II Holden Commodore SS Sedan
(Past President Modified Chapter)

Past Cars of significance - to me
1935 Ford 3 Window Coupe
1936 Ford 5 Window Coupe
1937 Chevrolet Sports Coupe
1955 Chevrolet Convertible
1959 Ford Fairlane Ranch Wagon
1960 Cadillac CDV
1972 Cadillac Eldorado Coupe

Andy Green

#12
Bruce,

That looks like the fitting, I don't know what thread it is. I have just taken two more photos so will send those shortly.

My sister in law lives in Maryborough Queensland and says it is 38 degrees there so I guess you are dealing with that too, about 10 degrees here in the UK today.

Andy

The Tassie Devil(le)

If you can accurately measure yours, I will do the same to mine.

Where you show the fitting on the ruler, mine is 15 mm, or about just over 9/16", so it looks like yours is smaller in actual size.

I am off to bed shortly, but so will check up in the morning.

Got to 26 C here today, then a cool change came in, and now it is down to 10 C and Gale warnings.

Bruce. >:D
'72 Eldorado Convertible (LHD)
'70 Ranchero Squire (RHD)
'74 Chris Craft Gull Wing (SH)
'02 VX Series II Holden Commodore SS Sedan
(Past President Modified Chapter)

Past Cars of significance - to me
1935 Ford 3 Window Coupe
1936 Ford 5 Window Coupe
1937 Chevrolet Sports Coupe
1955 Chevrolet Convertible
1959 Ford Fairlane Ranch Wagon
1960 Cadillac CDV
1972 Cadillac Eldorado Coupe

fishnjim

Definitely not a metric fitting for a '57. 
This is a common part, and I don't know if they still make them exactly like this or not.   I might have one or two, used elsewhere on the motor, from spare parts, etc.  See parts list page copy below.

You might try the hardware suppliers: Grainger, MSC, Fastenal, etc.   Would be a 1/8 NPT to SAE inverted flare tubing Ell.   Measure the tube OD(calipers).   Tube fittings go by OD.   

Most parts stores used to carry these, but since the standard changed to plumbophobic "no Pb" brass, they're mostly sourced from China and not in all configurations.  I know my local store threw out all the old fittings and cabinet and I could've cried when I found out...   I find some new in the big box stores occasionally, but usually limited range.
Sniff around some of the restoration sites or racing parts, Summit, Jegs, etc and see if they offer.   It's cold today and probably won't go down the garage to look, but already have offers.

harvey b

Here in Canada they are readily available at any parts store,most here have a wall mounted cabinet with tons of that stuff in them.I would go to a couple of parts stores and see if they can help,has got to be something close and faster then sending half way around the world for something so small,take the old one with you for comparison,maybe find a truck repair shop or a farm equipment repair shop,they should have a lead for you. Harveyb
Harvey Bowness

Joe G 12138

The male threaded end would be called 1/8" NPT (National Pipe Thread). I'm pretty sure British 1/8" pipe thread is different. The female end would be called 3/16" inverted flare, same as used on many American brake lines.   Hope this helps with your local or online  searches.    Joe Gibeault

Andy Green

fishnjim,

Thanks for the chart and the information, that's very useful to take with me. We don't seem to have the same sort of stores as you over here in the UK and I know my fitting wouldn't be metric but the plumbing stores would probably be metric stock but I will try them out. Such a small part  giving me a big issue. Still no 100% offers from anyone yet but I am hopeful that someone will be able to help me. Have a good day Jim

Thanks, Andy

Andy Green

Harveyb,

Thanks for your info, as yet I still have no luck in tracking this fitting down here in the UK. Most things have gone metric years ago so it is a problem. Still looking for one from whatever source and happy to pay for it and shipping. My car is just a large paperweight without it. Have a good day in Canada.

Thanks, Andy

Andy Green

Joe,

Thanks for the info, I am still searching for this fitting and don't mind paying for it and shipping. Not found one in the UK yet here. Enjoy today.
Andy