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-51 convertible project

Started by dogbergs, February 13, 2021, 02:57:38 AM

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dogbergs

According to instruction new pinion sealing should be used with factory outer sealing. Precautions when taking apart for saving the outer part. I never got how it was meant.
I made a new one.
-51 Cadillac serie 62 convertible, project
-64 Dodge Polara 2dHt, 1 driving and 1 for spares.
-70 Volvo 121 (Now sold after 21 years)
-63 Plymouth Max Wedge clone, project
-42 Harley WLA
-43 Royal Enfield WDCO
-33 Ford Pick up, project

Cadillac Jack 82

Nice when I had mine up in the air it appears that whomever restored my 50 did exactly that.  Luckily since it was probably done in the 2000s it should be solid for decades to come.
Tim

CLC Member #30850

1948 Buick 76S "Lillian"
1950 Cadillac CDV "Doris"
1959 Cadillac CDV "Shelley"

Past Cars

1937 LaSalle Coupe
1955 Cadillac CDV
1957 Cadillac Series 62 Coupe
1964 Cadillac SDV

and a bunch of others...

dogbergs

The added length of drive train, had to be cut somewhere. There are a few ways to do it, this is one of them.
It gets straight and no messing with balance weights. There is a 4" piece of pipe turned to perfect fit inside.
Will have it tig welded. All new joints.
-51 Cadillac serie 62 convertible, project
-64 Dodge Polara 2dHt, 1 driving and 1 for spares.
-70 Volvo 121 (Now sold after 21 years)
-63 Plymouth Max Wedge clone, project
-42 Harley WLA
-43 Royal Enfield WDCO
-33 Ford Pick up, project

dogbergs

#103
Some clearance for oil filter on the passenger side, other than that looking quite symmetrical. This with a small end pipe will be enough for starting.

Added,

Copied part for exhaust hanger on the driver side.
The belt earlier used as tacking material keeps on giving.

Painted and done for now.
-51 Cadillac serie 62 convertible, project
-64 Dodge Polara 2dHt, 1 driving and 1 for spares.
-70 Volvo 121 (Now sold after 21 years)
-63 Plymouth Max Wedge clone, project
-42 Harley WLA
-43 Royal Enfield WDCO
-33 Ford Pick up, project

dogbergs

#104
Why do it only once when you can go twice or maybe even triple the joy?
My newly rebuilt water pump wanted more from me, i don't know what, but more!
It had some drip e d drop from leakage hole and only thing I could think of was not having surfaces lubed with grease when assembling?
We will try with new seal and old stock impeller because the after market sheet metal impeller could not come off with some dignity, it just had to be a .....
But now with things apart again we can also turn the hub with it sitting on the axle.
No more wobbling pulley.
Bronze bushing was for the first seal, the second one is 5/8 instead of 3/4 so no space for bushing.

The two last added pics are for closing down this post.
VICTORY!!
-51 Cadillac serie 62 convertible, project
-64 Dodge Polara 2dHt, 1 driving and 1 for spares.
-70 Volvo 121 (Now sold after 21 years)
-63 Plymouth Max Wedge clone, project
-42 Harley WLA
-43 Royal Enfield WDCO
-33 Ford Pick up, project

dogbergs

Quote from: dogbergs on February 11, 2025, 07:18:20 AMWell I've kept the focus on getting it started, that will be a milestone.
Not so much left keeps me from trying.

Only,

12v.                                                                   done!
Fuel.                                                                  done!
Trans oil and drive shaft in place.                     done!
Cooling fluid, hoses and clamps.                     done!
At least some kind of short exhaust pipes.      done!

-51 Cadillac serie 62 convertible, project
-64 Dodge Polara 2dHt, 1 driving and 1 for spares.
-70 Volvo 121 (Now sold after 21 years)
-63 Plymouth Max Wedge clone, project
-42 Harley WLA
-43 Royal Enfield WDCO
-33 Ford Pick up, project

dogbergs

-51 Cadillac serie 62 convertible, project
-64 Dodge Polara 2dHt, 1 driving and 1 for spares.
-70 Volvo 121 (Now sold after 21 years)
-63 Plymouth Max Wedge clone, project
-42 Harley WLA
-43 Royal Enfield WDCO
-33 Ford Pick up, project

The Tassie Devil(le)

Didn't sound like 2,500 RPM to me.   Plus, has to be maintained for no less than 15 minutes.   Preferably 1/2 Hour.

Plus, blipping the throttle is not good either.

To bed the Cam and Lifters in is important, and at such low revs, don't be shocked if there is problems later on.

The Cam Lobe lubrication is from the oil splashing off the Big Ends, and too slow a rotation is not sufficient for proper lubrication.

Lastly, seeing as the car is not in a driveable condition, you will not be able to Bed the Rings in either as pressure needs to be put on the pistons, and this cannot be done unless driving, or on a Dyno.

Plus, the engine has to be hot enough to heat up EVERYTHING, including the Gaskets, so that they will correctly seal.   And Stick.   Especially the Head Gaskets.

Bruce. >:D 
'72 Eldorado Convertible (LHD)
'70 Ranchero Squire (RHD)
'74 Chris Craft Gull Wing (SH)
'02 VX Series II Holden Commodore SS Sedan
(Past President Modified Chapter)

Past Cars of significance - to me
1935 Ford 3 Window Coupe
1936 Ford 5 Window Coupe
1937 Chevrolet Sports Coupe
1955 Chevrolet Convertible
1959 Ford Fairlane Ranch Wagon
1960 Cadillac CDV
1972 Cadillac Eldorado Coupe

dogbergs

#108
Thanks Bruce.

It had about 20 minutes and even if I cant say exactly the rpms it was sure above the 2' and some more.
The throttle action in video was the only for the whole 20 minutes.
I would say it was hot all through..

Best / Johan
-51 Cadillac serie 62 convertible, project
-64 Dodge Polara 2dHt, 1 driving and 1 for spares.
-70 Volvo 121 (Now sold after 21 years)
-63 Plymouth Max Wedge clone, project
-42 Harley WLA
-43 Royal Enfield WDCO
-33 Ford Pick up, project

The Tassie Devil(le)

#109
Got to be over 2,500 rpm.

One thing I recommend when running in the Cam, is that the owner not be present as they seem to get really scared when the engine is "screaming" up that high, for so long.  Especially if the exhaust is loud.

The reason I don't like bedding in the Cam, and leaving the rest until the car is completed, is that I did that with a '59 Thunderbird I built, and when we got down to re-firing up the engine to bed the rings in, following the completion of the car, the head gaskets leaked coolant into the sump.

When I undid the head bolts to remove the heads, they simply fell off, as the Head Gaskets hadn't done their internal sealing and gluing to the Head and Cylinder surfaces.   I was not amused.

As an aside, I remember a story I heard regarding Chevrolet and their car building.   If the engine designed for the car was not installed after a month of being built, that engine was scrapped, simply because they are started up when built, then not fired up again till the completed car rolls off the assembly line.

Bruce. >:D
'72 Eldorado Convertible (LHD)
'70 Ranchero Squire (RHD)
'74 Chris Craft Gull Wing (SH)
'02 VX Series II Holden Commodore SS Sedan
(Past President Modified Chapter)

Past Cars of significance - to me
1935 Ford 3 Window Coupe
1936 Ford 5 Window Coupe
1937 Chevrolet Sports Coupe
1955 Chevrolet Convertible
1959 Ford Fairlane Ranch Wagon
1960 Cadillac CDV
1972 Cadillac Eldorado Coupe

dogbergs

Yes, i've heard similar regarding the last part you wrote and have had that in mind. Been rotating some every now and then. Added a bottle of TB zinc plus when starting up, already using zinc plus racing oil.
Also used Clevite assembly lube on cam and lifters.
The time between building and starting up have bothered me some but thats simply how it became, with life and everything..
I appreciate your concern Bruce👍
-51 Cadillac serie 62 convertible, project
-64 Dodge Polara 2dHt, 1 driving and 1 for spares.
-70 Volvo 121 (Now sold after 21 years)
-63 Plymouth Max Wedge clone, project
-42 Harley WLA
-43 Royal Enfield WDCO
-33 Ford Pick up, project

dogbergs

Found some old photos in work shop computer, good to spread them around.
-51 Cadillac serie 62 convertible, project
-64 Dodge Polara 2dHt, 1 driving and 1 for spares.
-70 Volvo 121 (Now sold after 21 years)
-63 Plymouth Max Wedge clone, project
-42 Harley WLA
-43 Royal Enfield WDCO
-33 Ford Pick up, project

Roger Zimmermann

At least you had some good remaining pieces of the trim; a good help for the upholsterer!
1956 Sedan de Ville (sold)
1956 Eldorado Biarritz
1957 Eldorado Brougham (sold)
1972 Coupe de Ville
2011 DTS
CLCMRC benefactor #101

dogbergs

Yes Roger,

CH Trim Shop, Bodafors has done the upholstery work. I still have not seen the result myself but have no doubts. There is kind of an agreement that they will do the top too.
-51 Cadillac serie 62 convertible, project
-64 Dodge Polara 2dHt, 1 driving and 1 for spares.
-70 Volvo 121 (Now sold after 21 years)
-63 Plymouth Max Wedge clone, project
-42 Harley WLA
-43 Royal Enfield WDCO
-33 Ford Pick up, project