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Stainless steel braided brake lines.

Started by Cadman-iac, September 21, 2023, 02:42:07 AM

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bcroe

On my lines to disc brakes, the general curve and
the keying at both ends needs to be turned right
to fit.  Perhaps you do not have that issue? 

Bruce Roe

Cadman-iac

Quote from: bcroe on September 25, 2023, 08:34:34 PMOn my lines to disc brakes, the general curve and
the keying at both ends needs to be turned right
to fit.  Perhaps you do not have that issue? 

Bruce Roe

 If I were going with disc brakes, that would be right, but with the drums, the line screws into the wheel cylinder, then the other end is clipped to the metal line bracket, so the ends aren't "keyed" in specific positions like what a lot of disc brakes need.

 I don't have a parts book that goes back to 56, but I'm thinking the hoses are the same for all models. I can't think of anything that would make one different from another in the rear. The fronts should all be the same simply because the suspension is the same.
 Can anyone with a book on these verify that?
 Thanks,

 Rick
CLC# 32373
1956 Coupe Deville A/C car "Norma Jean"

 Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool.

 Remember,  no matter where you go, there you are.

Roger Zimmermann

1941 to 1956 the front brake hoses are the same, two per car. The rear hose is different, they are the same from 1950 to 1956, one per car.
1956 Sedan de Ville (sold)
1956 Eldorado Biarritz
1957 Eldorado Brougham (sold)
1972 Coupe de Ville
2011 DTS
CLCMRC benefactor #101

Cadman-iac

  Thank you Roger, that's very helpful.
 

 Rick
CLC# 32373
1956 Coupe Deville A/C car "Norma Jean"

 Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool.

 Remember,  no matter where you go, there you are.

Cadman-iac

#24
  Here's what Brake Hoses Unlimited has to offer for stainless steel Hoses for a 56, and others that match.

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Now I'm just curious, is there something that they know that we collectively do not know here?

Why would the hoses for the 62 series be more money than those for the 60 and 75 series?

Besides cosmetic differences between models, are they not identical underneath, discounting of course body lengths?

Before I call them, I'd like verification from someone that has a parts book for these years.
Roger has answered already, but did he maybe miss a footnote?
  Thanks in advance,

Rick
CLC# 32373
1956 Coupe Deville A/C car "Norma Jean"

 Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool.

 Remember,  no matter where you go, there you are.

Roger Zimmermann

No footnote. There are crocks everywhere.
1956 Sedan de Ville (sold)
1956 Eldorado Biarritz
1957 Eldorado Brougham (sold)
1972 Coupe de Ville
2011 DTS
CLCMRC benefactor #101

Cadman-iac

Quote from: Roger Zimmermann on September 26, 2023, 03:52:12 PMNo footnote. There are crocks everywhere.

Well I just found out that these guys make the hoses as they're ordered, and the prices are updated as the sets are ordered as well, so apparently there were no hoses for the 60 and 75 series ordered since their last price update. They haven't had the chance to update the site yet, thus the discrepancy in price.
But even at the higher cost, these are worth the price. The hose is made here, not China.

I finally got to speak to someone at Russell hoses and he freely admitted up front that theirs are Chinese made.

So once I verify a couple things on my parts car, I'll be ordering from Brake Hoses Unlimited.
The guy I spoke with was very knowledgeable and helpful too, so if you're in the market for any stainless brake hoses, check these guys out. 1-616-836-7885.


  Rick
CLC# 32373
1956 Coupe Deville A/C car "Norma Jean"

 Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool.

 Remember,  no matter where you go, there you are.

Poncholover

"The guy I spoke with was very knowledgeable and helpful too, "

Your mileage may vary but when I told him that I was happy with my previous purchase but need to try another rear hose as my rear brakes have been dragging, I suspect the internals may have collapsed...
he did not hesitate to remake at no charge.
I wish we had more guys like that in our hobby :)
Flattie Caddy

Cadman-iac

Quote from: Poncholover on September 26, 2023, 08:04:49 PM"The guy I spoke with was very knowledgeable and helpful too, "

Your mileage may vary but when I told him that I was happy with my previous purchase but need to try another rear hose as my rear brakes have been dragging, I suspect the internals may have collapsed...
he did not hesitate to remake at no charge.
I wish we had more guys like that in our hobby :)

Well I greatly appreciate the referral Poncholover, I got a set ordered today. I went with the black covering on them just because they would look more like an original type of hose. I thought about getting them with a red, white and blue covering, but keeping them clean would be a pain.

I also received the promise that if anything didn't fit, or I was unhappy with anything, he would be happy to replace them with another. Excellent customer service there.

  Rick


CLC# 32373
1956 Coupe Deville A/C car "Norma Jean"

 Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool.

 Remember,  no matter where you go, there you are.

Cadman-iac

  Just wanted to update. I received the hoses last Saturday in the mail, and they look great. Other than the slightly smaller diameter of the hose itself, and the gloss of the covering, they would just appear to be stock-style hoses if you were to glance at them under the car.
 It's still going to be a while before I can install them, but I don't anticipate any problems. They look identical to the original ones as I said, just a slightly smaller outer diameter.
 Hopefully I won't ever have to buy another hose for it, but if so, the price is very reasonable. Excellent service and speedy shipping.
 I highly recommend this outfit if you are in the market for new brake hoses.
  I haven't had a chance to take any pictures of them yet, but will post some as soon as I can.


  Rick
 
CLC# 32373
1956 Coupe Deville A/C car "Norma Jean"

 Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool.

 Remember,  no matter where you go, there you are.

papas52cad

Very good thread on these SS hoses., I have a 52 Fleetwood, thankfully no hose issues, but I always like finding out about good suppliers as you found and reference here and keeping for future use. My question is - did you have to send them old hoses to match, or do they know specs and make to order from their internal specs?
Thank you again
Good luck on install.
Peter
1952 Fleetwood

Cadman-iac

Quote from: papas52cad on October 07, 2023, 10:22:34 AMVery good thread on these SS hoses., I have a 52 Fleetwood, thankfully no hose issues, but I always like finding out about good suppliers as you found and reference here and keeping for future use. My question is - did you have to send them old hoses to match, or do they know specs and make to order from their internal specs?
Thank you again
Good luck on install.
Peter

  Hi Peter,

This guy had all the info on the hoses, size of fittings, size of hose, and I told him about changing out the rear axle on mine to a 72, and he wanted to know if the end on the axle would have to be the same as a 72 or if the 56 hose would work. Since I used the original fittings and plumbed the axle to match, there was no need for a modified hose.
But he makes them as they are ordered and will make anything special you want.

The other place I contacted uses adapter fittings and a universal hose, which might be cheaper the next time you need a hose, as you don't need to buy the adapters again, but I didn't like that idea.

This guy also includes the copper washers and the retaining clips for the hoses. I know those don't cost much, but it's nice to have them with the hoses, you don't have to go looking for them later from somewhere/someone else.

Rick
CLC# 32373
1956 Coupe Deville A/C car "Norma Jean"

 Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool.

 Remember,  no matter where you go, there you are.

papas52cad

Hi Rick
Many thx, appreciate the details. I will keep this as a reference. I believe my hoses are all fine, but unlikely they are SS. I'll have to have my shop take a close look next oil chg. I have owned this cad for6 yrs now and I believe hoses may have been chged when it was restored, I'll chk records. For reference can you tell me what your cost was for your caddy?
Thx again. I'll be looking fwd to ur updates after you install them
Take care
Peter
1952 Fleetwood

Nickl

Have installed those 4 years ago in my 54 and had no problems. Fitted perfect and I think there is a better "feeling" when I push the pedal since I have them in my car
1954 Cadillac Series 62 Coupe

Cadman-iac

#34
Hey Peter,

These cost me $84.99 plus the tax and shipping.

Here's some pictures of what I got.

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CLC# 32373
1956 Coupe Deville A/C car "Norma Jean"

 Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool.

 Remember,  no matter where you go, there you are.

papas52cad

Thank you, greatly appr, very good value.
Good luck with your installation.
Peter
1952 Fleetwood