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1959 Cadillac standard air filters?!

Started by Cadillac Jack 82, April 08, 2024, 06:49:11 PM

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gkhashem

1959 Oldsmobile 98 Holiday Sports Sedan
1960 Cadillac Coupe Deville (CLC Sr #72)
1964 Oldsmobile 98 Town Sedan (OCA 1st)
1970 GMC C1500
1977 Oldsmobile 98 Regency Coupe
1978 Cadillac Coupe Deville (CLC Sr Crown #959)*
1992 Oldsmobile 98 (OCA 1st)
1996 Oldsmobile 98
*CLC Past President's Preservation

Past Cadillacs
1959 Coupe Deville
1966 Coupe Deville (Sr #861)*
1991 Eldorado Biarritz (Sr #838)

Michael Petti

#41
I found a company called Baldwin Filters. Air filter is PA 631. I called them and they said they still make it and it's a current number. I have not bought from them yet. Hastings and Baldwin seem to be the same.
https://www.baldwinfilters.com/us/en.html
United States
Baldwin Filters
4400 E Highway 30
Kearney, NE 68847
United States
Ph: 308 234 1951 / 800 822 5394
baldwin.info@parker.com

Cadillac Jack 82

Baldwin PA 631 is for the Eldo and not the standard model.
Tim

CLC Member #30850

1934 Harley VD 74ci "Rosie"
1948 Buick 76S "Lillian"
1950 Cadillac CDV "Doris"
1959 Cadillac CDV "Shelley"

Past Cars

1937 LaSalle Coupe
1955 Cadillac CDV
1957 Cadillac Series 62 Coupe
1964 Cadillac SDV

and a bunch of others...

smatarese

Frank Nicodemus Jr, now a CLC Board Member, is preparing to have a run of 59-60 4BBL air filters made.

His business is Cadillac Parts & Restoration.

https://www.cprforyourcar.com/
1959 Eldorado Biarritz
1960 Eldorado Brougham

Cadillac Jack 82

Wonderful news!  Is he planning on having them done in the same red rubber?
Tim

CLC Member #30850

1934 Harley VD 74ci "Rosie"
1948 Buick 76S "Lillian"
1950 Cadillac CDV "Doris"
1959 Cadillac CDV "Shelley"

Past Cars

1937 LaSalle Coupe
1955 Cadillac CDV
1957 Cadillac Series 62 Coupe
1964 Cadillac SDV

and a bunch of others...

Clewisiii

The wix part number for 1961 stock has also dried up. I have been looking around at small old autopart stores hoping someone had one left over. Surprisingly one showed up on rock auto. They must have found one in their warehouse. Because they have been out of stock a long time. I bought it a couple of days ago and now they are out of stock again.

FYI if someone can search by size 1961 is 3 inch tall 12.5 inch outer diameter, and 9.75 inner diameter.
"My interest is in the future, because I am going to spend the rest of my life there."  Charles Kettering

smatarese

Quote from: Cadillac Jack 82 on June 20, 2024, 03:14:30 PMWonderful news!  Is he planning on having them done in the same red rubber?

Original black
1959 Eldorado Biarritz
1960 Eldorado Brougham

Cadillac Jack 82

Black was the replacements I thought?  I just picked up a filter from 1960 and its red.  Either way happy to have the replacement filters.
Tim

CLC Member #30850

1934 Harley VD 74ci "Rosie"
1948 Buick 76S "Lillian"
1950 Cadillac CDV "Doris"
1959 Cadillac CDV "Shelley"

Past Cars

1937 LaSalle Coupe
1955 Cadillac CDV
1957 Cadillac Series 62 Coupe
1964 Cadillac SDV

and a bunch of others...

Gabe Davis

The filters linked above from Rockauto are not correct. I ordered two the other day and they arrived this morning. They are not as tall as the original filter.

Quote from: Cadillac Jack 82 on June 18, 2024, 11:18:05 AMBaldwin PA 631 is for the Eldo and not the standard model.

Tim is correct. The PA 631 is what they shipped. It is what was listed for a DeVille. I'm going to ship them back to Rockauto unless anyone is interested in them.

I'll buy a couple of the correct filters from Frank at CPR when they are available.
1959 Coupe DeVille
Rosewood with Dover White Top

Gabe Davis

Quote from: Cadillac Jack 82 on June 20, 2024, 05:13:29 PMBlack was the replacements I thought?  I just picked up a filter from 1960 and its red.  Either way happy to have the replacement filters.

The Authenticity Manual does not state a color in Section 3-J. The examples in the photos are black. But I'm not sure that is the end all be all authority on the air filter.

I do remember that my car at one point had a red/orange filter in it but figured that maybe it was a Fram as it matched their color. I don't know the filters origin but would guess it was from the 1980's looking at the history of the car.
1959 Coupe DeVille
Rosewood with Dover White Top

Cadillac Jack 82

Heres the NOS 1960 dated filter installed.  Looks cool imho.
Tim

CLC Member #30850

1934 Harley VD 74ci "Rosie"
1948 Buick 76S "Lillian"
1950 Cadillac CDV "Doris"
1959 Cadillac CDV "Shelley"

Past Cars

1937 LaSalle Coupe
1955 Cadillac CDV
1957 Cadillac Series 62 Coupe
1964 Cadillac SDV

and a bunch of others...

gkhashem

1959 Oldsmobile 98 Holiday Sports Sedan
1960 Cadillac Coupe Deville (CLC Sr #72)
1964 Oldsmobile 98 Town Sedan (OCA 1st)
1970 GMC C1500
1977 Oldsmobile 98 Regency Coupe
1978 Cadillac Coupe Deville (CLC Sr Crown #959)*
1992 Oldsmobile 98 (OCA 1st)
1996 Oldsmobile 98
*CLC Past President's Preservation

Past Cadillacs
1959 Coupe Deville
1966 Coupe Deville (Sr #861)*
1991 Eldorado Biarritz (Sr #838)

Carfreak

The CLC Museum receives donations of parts during the Fall Festival, at GNs and other times.

Several donations have included NORS 59-60 4 barrel air filter elements.

Another reason to attend the annual Cadillac Fall Festival near Kalamazoo, MI each September.
Enjoy life - it has an expiration date.

Cadillac Jack 82

Presently I have the NOS one I bought on ebay installed on my car.  Seems to be working well.
Tim

CLC Member #30850

1934 Harley VD 74ci "Rosie"
1948 Buick 76S "Lillian"
1950 Cadillac CDV "Doris"
1959 Cadillac CDV "Shelley"

Past Cars

1937 LaSalle Coupe
1955 Cadillac CDV
1957 Cadillac Series 62 Coupe
1964 Cadillac SDV

and a bunch of others...

cadman59

Thanks to these latest postings, I thought let me search our local online marketplace in the Netherlands; one never knows. 
And hold on, there was a NOS AC a85c filter on offer, still in the original box!

Just bought it for €38 incl. shipping, better have a spare on the shelve...
Feiko Kuiper - Netherlands (Europe)

1959 Cadillac Series SixtyTwo 6-Window Sedan
https://instagram.com/feikokuiper

Cadillac Jack 82

These are stories I love to hear about!  Congrats! 

Also any updates on new repro filters?
Tim

CLC Member #30850

1934 Harley VD 74ci "Rosie"
1948 Buick 76S "Lillian"
1950 Cadillac CDV "Doris"
1959 Cadillac CDV "Shelley"

Past Cars

1937 LaSalle Coupe
1955 Cadillac CDV
1957 Cadillac Series 62 Coupe
1964 Cadillac SDV

and a bunch of others...

Clewisiii

The 61 air filter was also unavailable for a while. But they are back in stock. I just checked rock auto and they are showing a filter for 59 as being available. 
"My interest is in the future, because I am going to spend the rest of my life there."  Charles Kettering

TJ Hopland

Uggh..... another long link screwing up the formatting.....

Since these are so hard to come by would it be worth maybe trying to come up with some sort of a pre filter to do most of the 'work'?  Like the foam band you commonly see on lawn equipment sort of thing?

Also is there any concern or history of old stock air filters failing and being ingested?  At least its fairly soft material but still not ideal to have in your engine.   
73 Eldo convert w/FiTech EFI, over 30 years of ownership and counting
Somewhat recently deceased daily drivers, 80 Eldo Diesel & 90 CDV
And other assorted stuff I keep buying for some reason

Cadillac Jack 82

Any filter that's currently out there's for the x3 barrel carbs.  I haven't seen any single 4-barrel carb filters outside of eBay in a while.
Tim

CLC Member #30850

1934 Harley VD 74ci "Rosie"
1948 Buick 76S "Lillian"
1950 Cadillac CDV "Doris"
1959 Cadillac CDV "Shelley"

Past Cars

1937 LaSalle Coupe
1955 Cadillac CDV
1957 Cadillac Series 62 Coupe
1964 Cadillac SDV

and a bunch of others...

Warren Rauch #4286

This isn't that small a market filter,lots of companies sold them.
 
   AC          A85C
   Baldwin    PA-629
   Big A      93092
   Deluxe     AF-404
   Fram       CA-178L
   Hastings   AF-21
   Motorcraft FA-30
   NAPA       2092
   Wix (old)   DT-92
   Wix        42092

Height   2.92 to 3.0 inch

Inside Dia  13 13/16

Outside Top  Dia 17  1/16

Outside  bottom  Dia   16  3/16

Most filters are not this big, and only a very few have the bigger top diameter(gasket). Seems to have been a short term fad.


Fits
    Buick 63 Riveria
          64 Riveria w/4bbl
        65-66 most w/400-V8

   Cadillac  59-60  w/4bbl


   Oldsmobile 59-60 w/4bbl
                61 none
              62-63 High Performance

The filter for Cadillac 59-60 3-2bbl also fits 58-62 Chev 3-2bbl,Chev 63-64 2 -4bbl models,plus other GM models.A bigger market? Or just more still in stock?

Warren