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57 Radiator Issue

Started by FabCad, June 23, 2024, 11:41:48 AM

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FabCad

My 57 Eldorado started spewing coolant from the overflow line on the radiator. This happens when the car is warm and driving (not just idling). The car is not overheating and the coolant level is not overly full. What would cause this?

Thanks,
Fab
1948 Sedanette
1949 Convertible
1950 Convertible
1957 Biarritz
1960 Convertible

Big Fins

Have you recently changed or added coolant? Is there an overflow bottle being used? The level of the coolant in the radiator should be approximately 1 1/2" below the flange in which the seal of the radiator cap rests.

It's also bee excessively hot lately and the coolant level may be looking for it's own level. An overflow bottle may not be factory, but it sure does help in the maintaining the proper level in the system.
Current:
1976 Eldorado Convertible in Crystal Blue Fire Mist with white interior and top. (Misty Blue)

Past and much missed:
1977 Brougham de Elegance
1976 Eldorado Convertible
1972 Fleetwood Brougham
1971 Sedan de Ville
1970 de Ville Convertible
1969 Fleetwood Brougham
1969 Sedan de Ville
1959 Sedan deVille

FabCad

I have not added any coolant lately, other than to replace what has leaked out. Yes, the coolant was filled 1-1/2" below the flange, give or take. It is leaking out to the point where there's no longer any coolant visible inside the top of the radiator.

No overflow reservoir.

I drove it yesterday in the morning when it was still cool out, so I don't think it was the heat.

Could it be a bad thermostat?
 
1948 Sedanette
1949 Convertible
1950 Convertible
1957 Biarritz
1960 Convertible

Big Fins

Loss of coolant means a leak, a split seam, bad cap or heaven forbid, freeze plugs.

Better look into that a little deeper.
Current:
1976 Eldorado Convertible in Crystal Blue Fire Mist with white interior and top. (Misty Blue)

Past and much missed:
1977 Brougham de Elegance
1976 Eldorado Convertible
1972 Fleetwood Brougham
1971 Sedan de Ville
1970 de Ville Convertible
1969 Fleetwood Brougham
1969 Sedan de Ville
1959 Sedan deVille

Clewisiii

I put a large sheet of brown paper under my car while running to help me find the drips. I had a lower hose that had an intermittent leak at the clamp.
"My interest is in the future, because I am going to spend the rest of my life there."  Charles Kettering

Cadillac Jack 82

Could be the water pump too.  I was having issues with overflow in the 59 before the pump failed. 
Tim

CLC Member #30850

1948 Buick Roadmaster 76S Sedanette
1959 Cadillac CDV
1966 Oldsmobile Toronado

Past Cars

1937 LaSalle Coupe
1940 Chevy Coupe
1941 Ford 11Y
1954 Buick 48D
1955 Cadillac CDV
1955 Packard Super Panama
1957 Cadillac Series 62
1962 VW Bug
1962 Dodge 880
1964 Cadillac SDV
1966 Mercury Montclair
1967 Buick Wildcat
1968 Chevy Chevelle SS
1968 Plymouth Barracuda
1977 Lincoln MKV

Jon S

OP says it is coming out the overflow. I suspect the radiator needs a good cleaning.
Jon

1958 Cadillac Sedan De Ville
1973 Lincoln Continental Coupe
1981 Corvette
2004 Mustang GT

FabCad

So today I replaced the radiator cap  and drove it. No leakage. Not sure if that truly resolved the issue or what. But I'd be a bit surprised if it was that easy of a fix.
1948 Sedanette
1949 Convertible
1950 Convertible
1957 Biarritz
1960 Convertible

Big Fins

Why? The rubber seals go bad and the springs get weak over time. Kinda like us if you think about it.  ;D

Monitor it. It's nice to thrown a bone now and then.
Current:
1976 Eldorado Convertible in Crystal Blue Fire Mist with white interior and top. (Misty Blue)

Past and much missed:
1977 Brougham de Elegance
1976 Eldorado Convertible
1972 Fleetwood Brougham
1971 Sedan de Ville
1970 de Ville Convertible
1969 Fleetwood Brougham
1969 Sedan de Ville
1959 Sedan deVille

FabCad

Makes sense!

Do you happen to know what is the correct cap for a 57 Cadillac? (vented vs non-vented, psi)
1948 Sedanette
1949 Convertible
1950 Convertible
1957 Biarritz
1960 Convertible

Cadillac Jack 82

Tim

CLC Member #30850

1948 Buick Roadmaster 76S Sedanette
1959 Cadillac CDV
1966 Oldsmobile Toronado

Past Cars

1937 LaSalle Coupe
1940 Chevy Coupe
1941 Ford 11Y
1954 Buick 48D
1955 Cadillac CDV
1955 Packard Super Panama
1957 Cadillac Series 62
1962 VW Bug
1962 Dodge 880
1964 Cadillac SDV
1966 Mercury Montclair
1967 Buick Wildcat
1968 Chevy Chevelle SS
1968 Plymouth Barracuda
1977 Lincoln MKV

Cadillac Jack 82

Tim

CLC Member #30850

1948 Buick Roadmaster 76S Sedanette
1959 Cadillac CDV
1966 Oldsmobile Toronado

Past Cars

1937 LaSalle Coupe
1940 Chevy Coupe
1941 Ford 11Y
1954 Buick 48D
1955 Cadillac CDV
1955 Packard Super Panama
1957 Cadillac Series 62
1962 VW Bug
1962 Dodge 880
1964 Cadillac SDV
1966 Mercury Montclair
1967 Buick Wildcat
1968 Chevy Chevelle SS
1968 Plymouth Barracuda
1977 Lincoln MKV

FabCad

1948 Sedanette
1949 Convertible
1950 Convertible
1957 Biarritz
1960 Convertible

Big Fins

No sir. Looks like you got a satisfactory answer.
Current:
1976 Eldorado Convertible in Crystal Blue Fire Mist with white interior and top. (Misty Blue)

Past and much missed:
1977 Brougham de Elegance
1976 Eldorado Convertible
1972 Fleetwood Brougham
1971 Sedan de Ville
1970 de Ville Convertible
1969 Fleetwood Brougham
1969 Sedan de Ville
1959 Sedan deVille

dn010

If you are not going for originality and don't want to pay nearly $100 for a cap, I have been using the cap below since 2020 on my 57 when I suffered the same issue as you did with a leaky cap. No issues whatsoever.

https://www.amazon.com/Gates-31511-Safety-Vent-Cap/dp/B000C2WEV4
-----Dan B.
'57 Cadillac Sedan Deville 6239DX
'81 DMC DeLorean

Cadillac Jack 82

Dan those latch type caps are a recipe for issues.  Stant makes a similar 13# one that works as well.
Tim

CLC Member #30850

1948 Buick Roadmaster 76S Sedanette
1959 Cadillac CDV
1966 Oldsmobile Toronado

Past Cars

1937 LaSalle Coupe
1940 Chevy Coupe
1941 Ford 11Y
1954 Buick 48D
1955 Cadillac CDV
1955 Packard Super Panama
1957 Cadillac Series 62
1962 VW Bug
1962 Dodge 880
1964 Cadillac SDV
1966 Mercury Montclair
1967 Buick Wildcat
1968 Chevy Chevelle SS
1968 Plymouth Barracuda
1977 Lincoln MKV

FabCad

#16
I ended up buying one of these on Amazon. Hopefully it does the trick.

https://www.amazon.com/ACDelco-RC6-Professional-P-S-I-Radiator/dp/B000C9TZOQ/
1948 Sedanette
1949 Convertible
1950 Convertible
1957 Biarritz
1960 Convertible

TJ Hopland

That link looks spooky.....  not that the name really matters since those are easy to spoof.

If you have a tractor supply farm and fleet sort of place near you old tractors used lower pressure caps like that and those places often stock them.  I'm sure just about every parts store stocks them too but they can't look it up so its up to you to figure out their part number and then walk in and ask for it by part number.

One of my cars had a AC cap on it.  Stood for Allis Chalmers but I'm sure most people if they even noticed assumed that was AC Delco....  what does the AC in Delco stand for anyway?
73 Eldo convert w/FiTech EFI, over 30 years of ownership and counting
Somewhat recently deceased daily drivers, 80 Eldo Diesel & 90 CDV
And other assorted stuff I keep buying for some reason

FabCad

1948 Sedanette
1949 Convertible
1950 Convertible
1957 Biarritz
1960 Convertible

Big Fins

Quote from: TJ Hopland on June 24, 2024, 08:31:21 PMwhat does the AC in Delco stand for anyway?

Of course AC spark plugs were used in GM's concept cars: AC (ACDelco) was a division of GM. But did you know that AC were the initials of Albert Champion, who gave his name to that eponymous spark plug company.
Current:
1976 Eldorado Convertible in Crystal Blue Fire Mist with white interior and top. (Misty Blue)

Past and much missed:
1977 Brougham de Elegance
1976 Eldorado Convertible
1972 Fleetwood Brougham
1971 Sedan de Ville
1970 de Ville Convertible
1969 Fleetwood Brougham
1969 Sedan de Ville
1959 Sedan deVille