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Title: 1941 Cadillac Series 62 - First restore
Post by: wpbennett on November 08, 2018, 01:07:01 PM
Greeting,

This is my first post to the forum. I recently picked up a 1941 series 63 and am making my first attempt at a restore. I plan to make it a driver and add AC and a few other power options as time and money permit. I tried posting a couple of times before with a picture attached and it would error out on me so I'll post without a pic this time and see if I can get it to work.

I'm going to need to rewire, are there recommendations or cautions about any of the companies that sell the wire looms? There seems to be a bit of difference in their pricing.

Any tips to avoid pitfall would be welcomes and well and money pits to avoid.

I look forward to learning and hopefully sharing as time goes on.

Thanks,
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Title: Re: 1941 Cadillac Series 63 - First restore
Post by: wpbennett on November 08, 2018, 01:24:20 PM
Here's a pic
Title: Re: 1941 Cadillac Series 63 - First restore
Post by: D.Yaros on November 08, 2018, 02:12:25 PM
Welcome!  Looks to be an interesting project.  Am sure aficionados here of this year/model will be glad to render whatever assistance they can to you during your journey.
Title: Re: 1941 Cadillac Series 63 - First restore
Post by: harry s on November 08, 2018, 02:28:28 PM
Welcome to the forum. Your car looks like a 62 Series to me. Can you post a picture of your data plate? It should be on the drivers side where the hood hinge attaches to the cowl. In any event it looks like a nice solid car.    Harry
Title: Re: 1941 Cadillac Series 63 - First restore
Post by: Steve Passmore on November 08, 2018, 04:46:07 PM
Agreed Harry, 62 series.
Title: Re: 1941 Cadillac Series 63 - First restore
Post by: wpbennett on November 08, 2018, 06:01:18 PM
Quote from: harry s on November 08, 2018, 02:28:28 PM
Welcome to the forum. Your car looks like a 62 Series to me. Can you post a picture of your data plate? It should be on the drivers side where the hood hinge attaches to the cowl. In any event it looks like a nice solid car.    Harry

Thanks I'll get a shot of that tonight and post.
Title: Re: 1941 Cadillac Series 63 - First restore
Post by: wpbennett on November 08, 2018, 10:39:10 PM
Here is a pic of the data plate

If I'm reading it correctly it is a series 62 but what does the "19D" mean?
Title: Re: 1941 Cadillac Series 63 - First restore
Post by: G Pennington on November 08, 2018, 10:53:29 PM
If you are planning on adding air conditioning and other power options, I suggest you convert it to 12 volt negative ground.  Don't think anyone makes aftermarket A/C components that operate on 6V. 
Title: Re: 1941 Cadillac Series 62 - First restore
Post by: wpbennett on November 08, 2018, 11:06:00 PM
12 v conversion added to the list

Thanks
Title: Re: 1941 Cadillac Series 62 - First restore
Post by: jagbuxx #12944 on November 09, 2018, 12:00:46 AM
Nice potential, 6219-D, for Deluxe trim,
Code 59, Valcour Maroon with Tan heather cord.
Title: Re: 1941 Cadillac Series 63 - First restore
Post by: Steve Passmore on November 09, 2018, 04:10:44 AM
Quote from: wpbennett on November 08, 2018, 10:39:10 PM
Here is a pic of the data plate

If I'm reading it correctly it is a series 62 but what does the "19D" mean?

19 is the body style, (4 door sedan)
'D' is delux model (had a few nice extra internal trim bits.)
Title: Re: 1941 Cadillac Series 63 - First restore
Post by: wpbennett on November 09, 2018, 11:28:58 AM
Jagbuxx and Steve

Thank you for your replies.  If you don't mind me asking what are some of the extras that came with the delux?


As I'm making a plan of attack would you recommend a frame off restore or is that a bit of overkill for building a driver? (like I've said this is my first restore/build)

Thanks
Title: Re: 1941 Cadillac Series 62 - First restore
Post by: Steve Passmore on November 09, 2018, 12:55:42 PM
Delux is a little fancier on the upholstery plus all the stainless around the bottom of the seats and on the door panels.  Steering wheel is the chrome type, maybe heater and radio.
Title: Re: 1941 Cadillac Series 62 - First restore
Post by: harry s on November 09, 2018, 01:07:16 PM
I was just replying regards "D" features when Steve's post popped up. In addition to what Steve mentions fender skirts or wheel shields were included.
I think you are wise to not go the frame or body off route. That is prohibitively expensive and when finished not practical for everyday of fun use.     Harry
Title: Re: 1941 Cadillac Series 62 - First restore
Post by: wpbennett on November 14, 2018, 05:48:57 PM
Steve and Harry thank you for the additional information.

Another question, hope you don't get tired of them as I move along with this.  Are there any sources for replacement spare tire well's in the trunk, seems like a common place to rust out. 

Thanks
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Title: Re: 1941 Cadillac Series 62 - First restore
Post by: Steve Passmore on November 15, 2018, 04:08:58 AM
They can usually be fabricated by a good sheet metal man.
Title: Re: 1941 Cadillac Series 62 - First restore
Post by: wpbennett on November 23, 2018, 07:26:58 PM
Quick update on the project

A few pics of the take down process.

Looks like one of the blowers for the under seat heaters in gone.
Got a few extra thing in the back of one of the seats.
Is this a factory seat color for a delux?
Any suggestions for the rear arm rests?

Working while the weather lets me, hope you all had a great Thanksgiving.
Title: Re: 1941 Cadillac Series 62 - First restore
Post by: carlhungness on December 11, 2018, 10:30:18 PM
     If you must add some power accessories I suggest a power rack and pinion steering gear and a Mexican air conditioner. The Mexican air-conditioner fits in the trunk, is run by a 12 volt 2.75 motor and doesn't infringe upon the originality of the cockpit. You can find the electric motor here.
https://www.hydrogenappliances.com/3hpmotor.html
  The owner of the company selling the electric motor says he has sold thousands of them to the Mexicans for a cheap air conditioning unit.

   The power rack and pinion will be a simple addition as it is skinny and can mount up near the front cross-member. The air conditioner will take up little space in the trunk and you won't have to worry about bracketry on the engine. You can mount the compressor next to the 12 volt motor easily and the condensor can be located under the gas tank. I'm doing so on my '37 Coupe and other than a small amount of grille work in the back seat you won't be able to tell the car has air.
Title: Re: 1941 Cadillac Series 62 - First restore
Post by: wpbennett on December 12, 2018, 12:26:29 PM
Carl, I'd be interested to see photos of the a/c setup when you get yours installed and I'll look into the power r and p.

Thanks,
Title: Re: 1941 Cadillac Series 62 - First restore
Post by: wpbennett on December 13, 2018, 07:16:50 PM
I was looking at some pics of my carb today, it's a Carter with a tag that reads "682S".  In looking at what should be on this car I'm thinking it should be a "506S".  Am I correct and somewhere along the line this got switched?

Any issues I should be aware of with the carb switch?
Title: Re: 1941 Cadillac Series 62 - First restore
Post by: Bob Hoffmann CLC#96 on December 14, 2018, 05:40:54 PM
Page,
I have a pair of the floor heaters. Good used, dry stored for years. $150 pair plus shipping. Please advise. Thanks, Bob
Title: Re: 1941 Cadillac Series 62 - First restore
Post by: carlhungness on July 29, 2019, 10:36:09 PM
       Rhode Island wiring has sure received magnificent reviews over the years for wiring harnesses. Personally, I'd call and tell them you want to install some 12 volt accessories and ask if they can construct a harness that will accommodate your additions.
       You should consider turn signals for sure.
Title: Re: 1941 Cadillac Series 62 - First restore
Post by: Steve Passmore on July 30, 2019, 04:45:34 AM
41 already has turn signals Carl.
Title: Re: 1941 Cadillac Series 62 - First restore
Post by: wpbennett on August 04, 2020, 10:30:36 PM
It's been a while but the work is still going on. Life happens and this got put on hold but I'm able to get back at it again.

Unfortunately once I got the engine out the block is cracked. Now I have to look at my options and make a decision whether to find another 346 or go with a newer drive train.

I'm planning on converting to a 12 volt system and adding a/c and a few other comforts.

Just a bit about the car as I was taking it apart the tranny is for a 49 lincoln and the flywheel was marked as a 47 cad so I'm not working with the original drive train

Any thing to watch out for or lessons that have been learned along the way will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
Title: Re: 1941 Cadillac Series 62 - First restore
Post by: harry s on August 05, 2020, 11:18:57 AM
Sorry about the unexpected crack in your engine block. If you decide to stick with the 346 there was a complete running engine (rebuilt I think) advertised on here several months ago for less than the cost of a rebuild. Also I have a '41 bare block available. Good luck.      Harry
Title: Re: 1941 Cadillac Series 62 - First restore
Post by: wpbennett on August 05, 2020, 03:20:57 PM
Harry,

Thanks for the heads up. I'll keep this info in mind as I look at my options.
Title: Re: 1941 Cadillac Series 62 - First restore
Post by: Scott Anderson CLC#26068 on August 11, 2020, 03:54:00 PM
Quote from: wpbennett on November 23, 2018, 07:26:58 PM
Quick update on the project

A few pics of the take down process.

Looks like one of the blowers for the under seat heaters in gone.
Got a few extra thing in the back of one of the seats.
Is this a factory seat color for a delux?
Any suggestions for the rear arm rests?

Working while the weather lets me, hope you all had a great Thanksgiving.

I have the bracket for the missing fan motor (and perhaps a few other bits I can look for) after doing the heaters in my car. I'd be willing to just give them to you for the shipping. Drop me a line at sanderson1962email addresses not permitted if you're interested.