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Started by MB49Caddy, January 30, 2013, 08:57:51 PM

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MB49Caddy

Ok, so while I am having a "major" done on my Italian car I figured I would start documenting what I am doing to my new to me 1949 Series 62 Sedan and include pics when I can and in the meantime ask questions to learn about OEM condition of these cars.

So, here we go with what will be a thread that may last for years as I slowly bring this car back to the condtion that I wish it to be in.......it is a good car and a solid baseline to get started.

First project while prepping the car for Winter was to ensure tires were inflated properly and as I called to ask Joe Cutler how to remove the fender skirts I found this:

Subsequently I though I would take the skirts and have the inside of them blasted, and recoated with a resin-based powdercoat. But we found some body work done with Bondo so they told me when they blast them their will end up being some holes. The decision has been made to blast the entire two pieces and then they will prime them. Then we will get them repaired with proper metal and have them painted with Corinth Blue on the exterior.

BUT here are my two questions
1) What was the original material on the inside of the skirts? It looks like it may have been some type of coating (it defininetly was NOT smooth, it has relief).
2) Does anyone have the exact paint codes that transfer over to DuPont or Glasurit for Corinth Blue for me?

I found the rubber gaskets with the help of a few CLC'ers at Steel Rubber - they have the exact ones.

Thanks. Pics are here...
"Sir, my concern is not whether God is on our side; my greatest concern is to be on God's side, for God is always right." - Abraham Lincoln

gary griffin


  I am assuming the material you found on the back of your fender skirts was "Under Coating" installed by dealers on new cars for an additional fee.

  Some dealers did pretty good jobs and some did not. It was supposed to prevent rust.

  Feel free to enhance your blog with pictures. I have been keeping track of my progress on my blog here in this forum and have had a good time doing it.

  I don't have the paint codes but I am sure someone will provide them.

  1949 was such an Iconic model that there is a group called the 49ers that you may want to loin.

  It may be more feasible (Less costly) to buy good condition fender skirts rather than restoring yours. Just a suggestion of course. Agape Auto also reproduces fender skirts. Their number is 812-423-7332

   There is a "New huge list of Cadillac parts vendors. It was removed from this Forum by the directors but I think is is still on the 49ers website. My copy is dog eared and marked with lots of notes but if you cant find one I will be glad to mail it to you. It has been of great assistance for me.

Gary Griffin
Gary Griffin

1940 LaSalle 5029 4 door convertible sedan
1942 Cadillac 6719 restoration almost complete?
1957 Cadillac 60-special (Needs a little TLC)
2013 Cadillac XTS daily driver

Makandriaco

Hi, hope this helps.

Corinth Blue in Dupont: 760, 246-81439
Ditzler PPG: 10590

Ric
1959 Series 62 4 Window Sedan

Always loved Cadillacs.

MB49Caddy

#3
More pics to follow. Had them blasted and primed. Appears there was just a little bit of filler and that was to smooth out some minor blemishes that appear to be have been inflicted decades ago. Have been told if I want to put them back on the car I should spray the inside of them with black rust-o-leum to keep any moisture out before I have them painted (which would be wiser to do when I get the entire car painted).

By the by, that may be a while from now as I have a major service to complete on the "Red" car...

MB
"Sir, my concern is not whether God is on our side; my greatest concern is to be on God's side, for God is always right." - Abraham Lincoln

MB49Caddy

Here they are after being blasted and primed...
MB
"Sir, my concern is not whether God is on our side; my greatest concern is to be on God's side, for God is always right." - Abraham Lincoln

MB49Caddy

Man, it is frustrating trying to post pictures to this site (just to let the moderators know).

Anyway, after having a friend shrink them down, I decided to replace the center caps. An "after and before" picture now included. The work continues at a slow but steady pace. This car is REALLY cool.

MB
"Sir, my concern is not whether God is on our side; my greatest concern is to be on God's side, for God is always right." - Abraham Lincoln

MB49Caddy

Well I posted this elsewhere but should put it here too so we keep up with the worklist here:
She is at Classic Cars of Fredricksburg to have seat belts installed (a must to take my child in the car to shows etc) and fix the leaky rear diff, and fix the horn and change out the transmission fluid.

I need to get her back by father's day as my wife is actually going to come with me to an antique car show in Sully, VA. I still won't believe it until it happens. She hates this "car stuff".

MB
"Sir, my concern is not whether God is on our side; my greatest concern is to be on God's side, for God is always right." - Abraham Lincoln

52Cadillac

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MB49Caddy

Welllll, I went to pick up the car today and after driving it 10 miles up the road, something went "thud" under the hood and back to Classic Car on a Flat-Tow it went.

I can't seem to have either of my fun cars in my hands.

Unreal.
"Sir, my concern is not whether God is on our side; my greatest concern is to be on God's side, for God is always right." - Abraham Lincoln

MB49Caddy

Not sure yet. Not a mechanic but my thought after looking under the hood prior to having it flat bed towed back to CCC was either a hose blowing off (maybe coolant) or an oil drain plug?

Hard to tell. Will update you guys by the middle of the week. Praying it wasn't an expensive noise. Gut says it wasn't but we shall see.  It's me, so who knows.

MB
"Sir, my concern is not whether God is on our side; my greatest concern is to be on God's side, for God is always right." - Abraham Lincoln

52Cadillac

MB,Was there coolant or oil on the ground or the vehicle?
Mike
SemperFiFund.org
(Helping combat injured Marines)

MB49Caddy

Turns out it was a minor deal. There was a wire that was mounted too closely to the manual fan levers in the engine bay and it got caught on the lever going over a bump. It has been replaced and properly installed.

The other news is that the window controller motor in the drivers side door (which is filled with.......wait for it - transmission fluid - that is what raises and lowers the windows with a motor controller) is leaking and needs to be replaced now.

So there was actually fluid leaking in the driver's door. Tranny fluid.

This car is going to take as much effort to get right as my other car is.... :o :-\
"Sir, my concern is not whether God is on our side; my greatest concern is to be on God's side, for God is always right." - Abraham Lincoln

harry s

MB,  Transmission fluid is the recommended replacement for the original fluid which was brake fluid. When that leaked it removed paint. The motor and pump for the windows and seat is located on the firewall under the hood. The mechanism in the door is a hydraulic cylinder. The cylinders are readily available and fairly easy to install. Hope you can get it fixed in time for the Sully Show.    Harry
Harry Scott 4195
1941 6733
1948 6267X
2011 DTS Platinum

Jeff Maltby 4194

What fan levers in engine bay ?
Jeffo 49er chapter

CLC 1985
Honda Gold Wing GL1500

MB49Caddy

Quote from: harry s on June 10, 2013, 07:41:01 PM
MB,  Transmission fluid is the recommended replacement for the original fluid which was brake fluid. When that leaked it removed paint. The motor and pump for the windows and seat is located on the firewall under the hood. The mechanism in the door is a hydraulic cylinder. The cylinders are readily available and fairly easy to install. Hope you can get it fixed in time for the Sully Show.    Harry

Ahhh, so it is ok to have the Transmission fluid in it.

On getting it ready in time for the show...me too. I hope they can get it done by Friday. At this point I am at wits end with my two fun cars. It will be almost July before I have either of them to drive. On the other hand, there are folks with bigger problems than that in the USA right now... :-[
"Sir, my concern is not whether God is on our side; my greatest concern is to be on God's side, for God is always right." - Abraham Lincoln

MB49Caddy

Quote from: Jeff Maltby 4194 on June 10, 2013, 07:54:25 PM
What fan levers in engine bay ?

I was assuming they were referring to the levers that make the ventillation function in the cabin on the front panel to the right of the steering wheel.
Right now they are not functioning properly but that is another thing I will fix.

MB
"Sir, my concern is not whether God is on our side; my greatest concern is to be on God's side, for God is always right." - Abraham Lincoln