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Where/when was this parade

Started by veesixteen, January 07, 2016, 03:50:38 PM

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veesixteen

Who can tell me the date and location of this parade?
The flag could be a clue; I don't recognise it.
The Cadillac is a 1961 "Series 75" Fleetwood limousine.
Yann Saunders, CLC #12588
Compiler and former keeper of "The Cadillac Database"
aka "MrCadillac", aka "Veesixteen"

The Tassie Devil(le)

I maybe mistaken, but the escorting Motor Cycles look like Hondas.

The flag looks like a Military Standard.

Bruce. >:D
'72 Eldorado Convertible (LHD)
'70 Ranchero Squire (RHD)
'74 Chris Craft Gull Wing (SH)
'02 VX Series II Holden Commodore SS Sedan
(Past President Modified Chapter)

Past Cars of significance - to me
1935 Ford 3 Window Coupe
1936 Ford 5 Window Coupe
1937 Chevrolet Sports Coupe
1955 Chevrolet Convertible
1959 Ford Fairlane Ranch Wagon
1960 Cadillac CDV
1972 Cadillac Eldorado Coupe

veesixteen

To my knowledge, only Austria and Lebanon have (national) flags with the horizontal red-white-red design, with a central motif on the white band. Let me check with a family member in the State dept. 
Yann Saunders, CLC #12588
Compiler and former keeper of "The Cadillac Database"
aka "MrCadillac", aka "Veesixteen"

Dan LeBlanc

The Kennedys had a 61 Series 75 that they had shipped around for official visits.  I wonder if this is a JFK visit somewhere.
Dan LeBlanc
1977 Lincoln Continental Town Car

veesixteen

Three other flags I know of have "red-white-red" horizontal stripes:
An old Peruvian flag, one from French Polynesia and another from the UAR.

BTW, the Merdedes (security car?), in the background has LHD, suggests the action may be taking place in one of the MANY countries (and Island Nations) - especially where the British Empire spread its hegemony - where cars still drive on the left:

Anguilla, Antigua and Barbuda, Australia, Bahamas, Bangladesh, Barbados, Bermuda, Bhutan, Botswana, Bunei, Cayman Islands, Channel Islands, Christmas Island, Cocos (Keeling) Islands, Cook Islands, Cyprus, Dominica, East Timor (Timor-Leste), Falkland Islands, Fiji, Great Britain (England, N. Ireland, Scotland & Wales), Grenada, Guyana, Hong Kong, India, Indonesia, Ireland (Eire), Jamaica, Japan, Kenya, Kiribati, Lesotho, Macau, Malawi, Malaysia, Maldives, Malta, Mauritius, Montserrat, Mozambique, Namibia, Nauru, Nepal, New Zealand, Niue, Norfolk Island, Pakistan, Papua New Guinea, Pitcairn Islands, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Saint Lucia, Saint Helena, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Samoa, Seychelles, Singapore, Solomon Islands, South Africa, Sri Lanka, Suriname, Swaziland, Tanzania, Thailand, Tokelau, Tonga, Trinidad and Tobago, Turks and Caicos Islands, Tuvalu, Uganda, Virgin Islands (British), Virgin Islands (USA), Zambia, Zimbabwe.


Yann Saunders, CLC #12588
Compiler and former keeper of "The Cadillac Database"
aka "MrCadillac", aka "Veesixteen"

Steve Passmore

Quote from: veesixteen on January 08, 2016, 01:34:37 PM
Three other flags I know of have "red-white-red" horizontal stripes:
An old Peruvian flag, one from French Polynesia and another from the UAR.

BTW, the Merdedes (security car?), in the background has LHD, suggests the action may be taking place in one of the MANY countries (and Island Nations) - especially where the British Empire spread its hegemony - where cars still drive on the left:



I think You meant to say RHD didn't you Yann.
Steve

Present
1937 60 convertible coupe
1941 62 convertible coupe
1941 62 coupe

Previous
1936 70 Sport coupe
1937 85 series V12 sedan
1938 60 coupe
1938 50 coupe
1939 60S
1940 62 coupe
1941 62 convertible coupe x2
1941 61 coupe
1941 61 sedan x2
1941 62 sedan x2
1947 62 sedan
1959 62 coupe

veesixteen

Yann Saunders, CLC #12588
Compiler and former keeper of "The Cadillac Database"
aka "MrCadillac", aka "Veesixteen"

Series75

I think it's the Prince of Morocco.   Here's a picture of him accepting delivery on Ellison St, Paterson, NJ from Thomas Brogan Sr.   

veesixteen

Thanks for the photo. I guess you meant Prince Rainier of MONACO and not "the Prince of Morocco" ?

Rainier married Grace Kelly in 1956. He was a fervent admirer of classic and sports cars, including (at least) 3 Cadillacs (1953 coupe, 1954 convertible and 1961 Fleetwood limo). I have mentioned him in the "Cadillac Database" and have attached also 3 photo URLs of these cars: 

http://www.cadillacdatabase.com/Dbas_txt/Starcar2.htm
http://www.cadillacdatabase.com/Dbas_str/str53monaco2.jpg
http://www.cadillacdatabase.com/Dbas_str/str54monaco.jpg
http://www.cadillacdatabase.com/Dbas_str/6175mona.jpg

I took the liberty of using PhotoShop to improve the photo you sent and would like your permission to include it in the "Database" with the other "Rainier" pics.
 



Yann Saunders, CLC #12588
Compiler and former keeper of "The Cadillac Database"
aka "MrCadillac", aka "Veesixteen"

Series75

Sure, place the photo in the database.
PS:  stand corrected.  Thought this was a discussion forum, not a college grad course. 8-)

Tito Sobrinho

Yann, just saw your excellent site...Cars of Stars and Personalities and I have a correction pertaining one car.

Marilyn Monroe rides in a 1951 Cadillac Coupe de Ville. I'm sorry to tell you as it is a 1950 Coupe de Ville easily identifiable by its dashboard that was the same for the '49 Cadillac.
The pleated seat side panels below the quarter windows were the same design for the '50 and '51 Coupe de Villes.
Tito S.

1949 CCP 6267X  (First Series)

Thanks to Frank Hershey for its design and thanks to Harry Barr, Ed Cole, John Gordon and Byron Ellis for its engine.

veesixteen

Tito is right. The visible dashboard is most definitely 1950. Compare the pics below of the 1950 and 1951 instrument panels.

I will ask JC to make the appopriate correction to the Database entry when he has a spare moment. I no longer have the possibility to do so myself. 
Yann Saunders, CLC #12588
Compiler and former keeper of "The Cadillac Database"
aka "MrCadillac", aka "Veesixteen"

veesixteen

A day when I don't learn something new is a day wasted. A day when I pass on   that (new?) information to someone else is a day when I feel I have shared  that something with a friend ... or three. I certainly want no part in teaching college grads ... since I never majored in anything but "Cadillac" ... and probably never got more than a "C+" at my best. 
Yann Saunders, CLC #12588
Compiler and former keeper of "The Cadillac Database"
aka "MrCadillac", aka "Veesixteen"

Steve Passmore

Steve

Present
1937 60 convertible coupe
1941 62 convertible coupe
1941 62 coupe

Previous
1936 70 Sport coupe
1937 85 series V12 sedan
1938 60 coupe
1938 50 coupe
1939 60S
1940 62 coupe
1941 62 convertible coupe x2
1941 61 coupe
1941 61 sedan x2
1941 62 sedan x2
1947 62 sedan
1959 62 coupe

Tito Sobrinho

Yann:

Your vast knowledge concerning Cadillacs translated in The Cadillac Database,  could not be duplicated by one holding a PhD degree.  Congratulations for your achievement!

I think, the picture in question was taken in one of the Caribbean Islands and my vote goes to The Bahamas when Rainier and Grace Kelly visited it.

The flag is still a mystery and could very well be a Military Standard as written by Bruce.
Tito S.

1949 CCP 6267X  (First Series)

Thanks to Frank Hershey for its design and thanks to Harry Barr, Ed Cole, John Gordon and Byron Ellis for its engine.

Philippe M. Ruel

There seems to be an emblem in the middle of the driver's door (a tree ? a flame ?).

Prince Rainier's car is currently exhibited in Monaco automobile museum : https://360carmuseum.com/en/museum/35/exhibit/1876.
It has no emblem, and features flag holding devices in front wheel arches.

The Mercedes behind it in the parade seems to be a 600 with her typical headlights. This model debuted in 1963, which drastically reduces the possibility of being related to JFK.
1952 60 Special in France.

Ralph Messina CLC 4937

Philippe,

Good observation about the headlights, but I believe they were used on all senior models. Judging by the two horizontal chrome slashes between the headlights and grille I'd suggest this  Mercedes is a 300 sedan, not a 600 which didn't use that chrome accent. From what I can see of the MB, it is a '62 or newer model. The W112 Series (body) cars were introduced mid '62.
1966 2nd Eldorado-with a new caretaker 
1966 Fleetwood Brougham-with a new caretaker
1966 1st Eldorado-with a new caretaker
1957 Eldorado Seville-with a new caretaker

Steve Passmore

Quote from: Tito Sobrinho on January 10, 2016, 01:49:29 PM
Yann:


I think, the picture in question was taken in one of the Caribbean Islands and my vote goes to The Bahamas when Rainier and Grace Kelly visited it.

The flag is still a mystery and could very well be a Military Standard as written by Bruce.

I don't see enough dark faced onlookers for it to be in the Caribbean islands Tito. Even the bike cops are fairly pale. People look a little more Asian or Indian to me.
Steve

Present
1937 60 convertible coupe
1941 62 convertible coupe
1941 62 coupe

Previous
1936 70 Sport coupe
1937 85 series V12 sedan
1938 60 coupe
1938 50 coupe
1939 60S
1940 62 coupe
1941 62 convertible coupe x2
1941 61 coupe
1941 61 sedan x2
1941 62 sedan x2
1947 62 sedan
1959 62 coupe

savemy67

Hello all,

I love a puzzle/mystery.  I tried enlarging the photo that is posted here on the forum, but the resolution is insufficient for effective sleuthing.  From what I can see, the cars in the background look newer than 1961.  The style of dress on the people in the background looks western and also looks newer than 1961.  The streetlight on the right looks modern enough that the location is probably not too remote, but near a major city.  The large tree on the left in the background looks like a Banyan tree.  The corrugated metal roof on the building is not untypical of roofing used in the tropics post Western contact.  The livery of the escort looks as if it is derived from the British Empire.  Not to mention the use of horses which need pasturage or imported feed.

Burma, 1970???

Christopher Winter
Christopher Winter
1967 Sedan DeVille hardtop

Glen

Quote from: Steve Passmore on January 10, 2016, 04:35:24 PM
I don't see enough dark faced onlookers for it to be in the Caribbean islands Tito. Even the bike cops are fairly pale. People look a little more Asian or Indian to me.

Interesting! When I first saw the picture I thought "India" from the look of the uniforms of the motorcycle riders.   
Glen Houlton CLC #727 
CLCMRC benefactor #104