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original brocade cloth or not?

Started by rivstg1, June 07, 2019, 01:45:32 AM

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rivstg1

Want some opinions here please.... I have a '57 Sedan Deville  that needs some recovering of seats....its a factory blue leather and blue cloth combo.... do you think it hurts the value of the car if I don't recover them ( the cloth part) in factory type cloth? The original type material runs about $150/yard....gonna need 4 yards, probably too do it all...finding some other material would cost 1/3rd the cost of the real type stuff.  Would you spend the big bucks or not? fyi I will/can fix/restore the leather portion ( that's my profession). I've seen many for sale and some(caddy's with newer interiors) weren't original...but seemed to sell for a healthy amount

anxious to hear your thoughts
1957 Sedan Deville, Tahoe Blue

Mike Josephic CLC #3877

That is a decision that only you can make -- depending
to what degree you wish to restore the car.

If you are looking to create a national show winner
and be in contention for a first senior / wreath / crown
at a CLC Grand National  -- then the choice is obvious.
Go for the best reproduction material you can find. 
Hoewver, that also means that all the other areas of
the car have to be restored to the same level -- the paint,
chrome, engine compartment undercarriage, etc.

If this type of restoration is not your goal, then go with
the seat material that you can best afford. 

However, it's best to think this through and decide early
on with a keen eye to you finances which route you are
going to take.  Otherwise, you may risk doing some rework
along the way. If you start out doing a "driver" and decide
midstream to make a "show car" -- you will spend quite a
bit of extra money redoing various items.

Mike


1955 Cadillac Eldorado
1973 Cadillac Eldorado
1995 Cadillac Seville
2004 Escalade
1997 GMC Suburban 4X4, 454 engine, 3/4 ton
custom built by Santa Fe in Evansville, IN
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Caddy Wizard

Spring for the extra cost of the original cloth.  It will increase the value of the car.  Well, more accurately, putting in the wrong fabric will decrease the value of the car.  Lots of folks won't even give a car with the wrong fabrics a second look.

My first (of 19!) old Cadillac's was a 1955 Series 62 sedan.  It was a low mileage car that was sold new here in Atlanta.  It had the original "V-crest" fabric on the seats.  There was a stain about the size of a baseball on the front seat bottom.  I loved it anyway and drove the car for 12 years, mostly as my daily transportation.  Eventually I sold the car after my daughter scratched the entire right side of my car, after I had put in hundreds of hours stripping the body and doing a masterpiece lacquer paint job.  The guy I sold it to ripped out the original fabrics and installed the cheapest plain leather you ever saw.  He turned an elegant (and original) factory interior into what looked like a taxicab.  His widow later offered to sell the car back to me, but the interior ruined it for me and I refused.

Don't be that guy...
Art Gardner


1955 S60 Fleetwood sedan (now under cosmetic resto)
1955 S62 Coupe (future show car? 2/3 done)
1949 S6107 Fastback Coupe -- back home with me after 15 yrs apart

marty55cdv

   My first Cadillac was and still is a 55 Coupe Deville, I drove it for a few years with the very worn original fabric, at that time with young children spending the money on original fabric was not an option. When I decided to get the seats redone I searched for something that was very similar in pattern and overall look and feel of the original .  My upholstery lady copied the button pattern and did a great job, that was almost 15 years ago I don't regret my decision one bit
but I just had the car painted and I would like to have the original fabric and leather put in now because of how nice the original stuff was. I also have a 60 Flattop which is a pretty nice original car, now that I can afford the original fabric I went ahead and ordered and paid for it from SMS in OCTOBER 2018. I still don't have the fabric and not sure when I will get it. So keep that in mind.  I don't really care whether the original fabric increases the value since by the time I sell that car I will be in diapers and the value will be the least of my concerns. It was just my preference this time. Unless you want to be judged in Grand Nationals or AACA events I would do what you can afford. I did see a 57 coupe with the original Brocade in it and it was gorgeous.
Marty Smith
  CLC #22760
1941 60 Special http://bit.ly/1Wm0GvT
1955 CDV http://bit.ly/1G933IY
1956 Fleetwood
1957 Coupe De Ville
1958 Extended Deck http://bit.ly/1NPYhGC
1959 Fleetwood  http://bit.ly/1OFsrOE
1960 Series 62 Coupe
1960 Sedan DeVille  4 window Flattop
1963 Fleetwood http://bit.ly/1iSz17J
1964 Eldorado http://bit.ly/1Wm17GA  (Living in California now)
1988 EBC http://bit.ly/1iSACKz

Dan LeBlanc

Quote from: Art Gardner CLC 23021 on June 07, 2019, 09:06:35 AM
Spring for the extra cost of the original cloth.  It will increase the value of the car.  Well, more accurately, putting in the wrong fabric will decrease the value of the car.  Lots of folks won't even give a car with the wrong fabrics a second look.

I agree with Art. 

Any time I've been in the market for a car and open an ad and start going through the pictures, if I get to an interior pic with the wrong fabrics/carpet, I hit the back button immediately, and move on to the next one.

If you're concerned with value after the redo, go with original fabrics.  Your car will appeal to a wider audience.  A wider audience = competition.  Competition = more $
Dan LeBlanc
1977 Lincoln Continental Town Car

Scot Minesinger

Definitely spend the money.  The extra $400 to use the correct material will pay for itself in a resale if ever required (keeping your options open).  Plus you will be happier.  The quality is remembered long after the price is forgotten.  And I could not agree more with other posters, seeing wrong fabric in a car will cause folks to not take a second look.
Fairfax Station, VA  22039 (Washington DC Sub)
1970 Cadillac DeVille Convertible
1970 Cadillac Sedan DeVille
1970 four door Convertible w/Cadillac Warranty

Jeff Rosansky CLC #28373

I'm cheap. I will be the first to admit it--A close second to admit it  would be my wife and family.
With that being said, with the cost of the labor will $400 really make a difference? I think you would absolutely kick yourself everytime you got in it. And the next time you or your spouse spend $400 in something not important or foo-foo you would really kick yourself.
Jeff
Jeff Rose
CLC #28373
1970 Coupe DeVille (Big Red)
1955 Series 62 (Baby Blue)
Dad's new 1979 Coupe DeVille

Ralph Messina CLC 4937

Mid-fifties to mid-sixties Cadillacs had some of the most beautiful interiors ever put into production cars.....'57 being among the best. If you go the economical route, you'll be disappointed the moment you're done because you'll know it's not correct. “The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.”
1966 Fleetwood Brougham-with a new caretaker http://bit.ly/1GCn8I4
1966 Eldorado-with a new caretaker  http://bit.ly/1OrxLoY
2018 GMC Yukon

Greg Powers

I have to say I would definitely go with the original fabric. The fabric patterns of the 1950's and 1960"s were  so beautiful and exuded Cadiilac elegance. As others have said, when I'm looking at a Cadillac and I see the interior is not original I just keep on moving to another Cadillac.   
G.L. Powers>1954 Series 62 Sedan/1958 Fleetwood 60 Special-sold/1963 Series 62 Convertible-sold/1970 Fleetwood Brougham-sold/1994 Fleetwood Brougham/1971 Sedan Deville-sold/2000 Deville-sold/2001 DTS-sold/1976 Eldorado Convertible-sold/1983 Coupe Deville-sold/1990 Allante-sold/1990 and 1991 Brougham deElegance-sold/1992 Brougham-sold/Always looking!

INTMD8


rivstg1

Thank you everyone for your thoughts and experiences....this is what I wanted....ideas from Cadillac owners!!!
1957 Sedan Deville, Tahoe Blue