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White Wall Tire Cleaner

Started by Rgcaddy, June 18, 2019, 09:14:50 PM

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Rgcaddy

As many of you probably know, the Westley's Bleach White product that was great for many years no longer is as the formula has been changed.  The product now seems to be worthless.  Does anyone have a go to product for cleaning white walls and getting them bright white?  I have tried just about everything and nothing seems to work anymore.
1989 Eldorado Coupe
1988 Seville Sedan
2011 SRX

The Tassie Devil(le)

I use Brakleen when cleaning my Whitewalls.

I spray the Brakleen onto a clean piece of cloth, and only wipe the actual white portion, in a circumferential pattern, making sure that I don't touch the black of the tyre.

Touch the black, and it will mark the white when going back to the white.

Bruce. >:D
'72 Eldorado Convertible (LHD)
'70 Ranchero Squire (RHD)
'74 Chris Craft Gull Wing (SH)
'02 VX Series II Holden Commodore SS Sedan
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Past Cars of significance - to me
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1936 Ford 5 Window Coupe
1937 Chevrolet Sports Coupe
1955 Chevrolet Convertible
1959 Ford Fairlane Ranch Wagon
1960 Cadillac CDV
1972 Cadillac Eldorado Coupe

76eldo

I still use Bleech White and it still works well.  I am going to try adding just a little bit of real bleach to boost the cleaning power and see what happens.
Spray Nine is also a great cleaner and sometimes you can use a Brillo pad along with any of these cleaners.

Brake Kleen is carbon tetrachloride which is cleaning fluid like what dry cleaners use.  It's solvent based, like lacquer thinner and in my opinion a little too strong for whitewalls.  You don't want to eat into the white rubber and damage the surface.  I fairly fine scrubbing pad or nylon bristle brush with the Bleech White should work well.

Does anyone know what they took out of Bleech White?

Brian
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1976 Eldorado Conv
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1956 Thunderbird
1966 Olds Toronado

Matt CLC#18621

Brillo pads.

Regards,

Matt CLC#18621

Mike Josephic CLC #3877

Just as a "caution" I would not recommend adding
"real bleach" AKA Clorox or a generic version thereof.

Despite the name, Bleche-Wite does not contain chlorine
bleach.  Chlorine is actually bad news for rubber products
and causes cracking and loss of elasticity.

Bleche-Wite did contain a very strong detergent (sodium
metasilicate) that safely cleaned the white wall.  However,
since this is a strong eye irritatant, the product was
reformulated and the amount of this item was reduced
or eliminated.

Simple Green works well by itself or with a Brillo / SOS
pad if your whitewalls are badly stained.

Mike
1955 Cadillac Eldorado
1973 Cadillac Eldorado
1995 Cadillac Seville
2004 Escalade
1997 GMC Suburban 4X4, 454 engine, 3/4 ton
custom built by Santa Fe in Evansville, IN
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TJ Hopland

For those that don't think westleys works anymore I'm curious if you let it freeze?   I had some that seemed to work fine last year.    A few days ago I grabbed it off the shelf and tried to use it on the same car as last year and it didn't seem to work as good.   Should be the same 'dirt' and everything as last year, new brake pads were 3 years ago and tires 4.  Only change I can think of is I'm sure it froze in the garage over the winter. 
73 Eldo convert w/FiTech EFI, over 30 years of ownership and counting
Somewhat recently deceased daily drivers, 80 Eldo Diesel & 90 CDV
And other assorted stuff I keep buying for some reason

Cape Cod Fleetwood

FWIW, Diamond Back Classic only approves of soap and water with a gentle brush on their white walls.
The use of Simple Green with a scrubby sponge is authorized for tougher stains.

\m/
Laurie
There are 2 kinds of cars in the world, Cadillac and everything else....

The Present -1970 Fleetwood Brougham

The Past -
1996 Deville Concours
1987 Sedan De Ville "Commonwealth Edition"
1981 Coupe De Ville (8-6-4)
1976 Sedan De Ville
1975 Sedan De Ville

The Daily Driver and work slave -
2008 GMC Acadia SLT *options/all

David Greenburg

I use diluted Simple Green on a rag or sponge, with a green scotch-brite pad on the tough spots.
David Greenburg
'60 Eldorado Seville
'61 Fleetwood Sixty Special

The Tassie Devil(le)

Quote from: 76eldo on June 18, 2019, 10:10:05 PM
Brake Kleen is carbon tetrachloride which is cleaning fluid like what dry cleaners use.  It's solvent based, like lacquer thinner and in my opinion a little too strong for whitewalls.  You don't want to eat into the white rubber and damage the surface.  ..... Brian   
The number of times I clean my whitewalls, I am never going to have a problem with damaging the surface.   They might get cleaned three times in any one year.

Bruce. >:D

PS.   I hate having to clean whitewalls, but I must admit that my Elo does look good with the 1" whitewalls.
'72 Eldorado Convertible (LHD)
'70 Ranchero Squire (RHD)
'74 Chris Craft Gull Wing (SH)
'02 VX Series II Holden Commodore SS Sedan
(Past President Modified Chapter)

Past Cars of significance - to me
1935 Ford 3 Window Coupe
1936 Ford 5 Window Coupe
1937 Chevrolet Sports Coupe
1955 Chevrolet Convertible
1959 Ford Fairlane Ranch Wagon
1960 Cadillac CDV
1972 Cadillac Eldorado Coupe

gross707

I’ll echo Matt’s suggestion in naming Brillo pads for cleaning white walls.  With a little elbow grease they work just fine.
Gerald Ross

Big Fins

TJ may be onto something. I have DB's on my car and just last week bought a new bottle of Westley's. It works like it always did for me. I make sure I spray it on a dry tire, hit it lightly with a plastic bristle scrub brush and rinse it off. With 4 wheel disc brakes, and the humidity here, they get dingy looking in a hurry.
Current:
1976 Eldorado Convertible in Crystal Blue Fire Mist with white interior and top. (Misty Blue)

Past and much missed:
1977 Brougham de Elegance
1976 Eldorado Convertible
1972 Fleetwood Brougham
1971 Sedan de Ville
1970 de Ville Convertible
1969 Fleetwood Brougham
1969 Sedan de Ville
1959 Sedan deVille

cadillacmike68

Quote from: Cape Cod Fleetwood on June 18, 2019, 11:22:12 PM
FWIW, Diamond Back Classic only approves of soap and water with a gentle brush on their white walls.
The use of Simple Green with a scrubby sponge is authorized for tougher stains.

\m/
Laurie

Thanks, I guess that gallon jug of Simple Green I bought will have more uses now.
Regards,
"Cadillac" Mike

Cape Cod Fleetwood

Quote from: Big Fins on June 19, 2019, 06:50:57 AM
TJ may be onto something. I have DB's on my car and just last week bought a new bottle of Westley's. It works like it always did for me. I make sure I spray it on a dry tire, hit it lightly with a plastic bristle scrub brush and rinse it off. With 4 wheel disc brakes, and the humidity here, they get dingy looking in a hurry.

Diamond Back discourages the use of that product on their tires. YMMV.

\m/
Laurie
There are 2 kinds of cars in the world, Cadillac and everything else....

The Present -1970 Fleetwood Brougham

The Past -
1996 Deville Concours
1987 Sedan De Ville "Commonwealth Edition"
1981 Coupe De Ville (8-6-4)
1976 Sedan De Ville
1975 Sedan De Ville

The Daily Driver and work slave -
2008 GMC Acadia SLT *options/all

EAM 17806

"SPRAY NINE" is the best cleaner of them all by far including for seat belts too, in my opinion!.  EAM
Ev Marabian

1976 Cadillac Coupe DeVille, 1989 Chevrolet Caprice Classic, 1990 Pontiac Bonneville and 1996 Buick Skylark

Big Fins

Diamond Back discourages the use of everything. I've been using Westley's for many, many years with no bad results.

I used the Spray Nine only once on the tires, because I didn't have any Westley's. Same result. Perfectly bright white sidewalls.
Current:
1976 Eldorado Convertible in Crystal Blue Fire Mist with white interior and top. (Misty Blue)

Past and much missed:
1977 Brougham de Elegance
1976 Eldorado Convertible
1972 Fleetwood Brougham
1971 Sedan de Ville
1970 de Ville Convertible
1969 Fleetwood Brougham
1969 Sedan de Ville
1959 Sedan deVille

signart

I use Scrubbing Bubbles.
Shake it but don't break it, cause... you know who is barely even around anymore. Spray it on, let it work, wipe & rinse. Only use something stronger if marked or stained. Take longer to get the skirts off than anything.
Art D. Woody

Matt CLC#18621

#16
Well all my current rides including 2001 ETC all have black walls.
Currently, when I clean the ETC’s black walls and chrome wheels, I spray Lysol bathroom foam cleaner (same as scrubbing bubbles) and use a heavy duty scrub brush on the Michelin’s walls before dressing the tyres.

When I had my 67 Fleetwood Eldorado and 78 Power T-Top Biarritz, I would spray with bathroom foam cleaner ($2.49) on tyres and either use Brillo or SOS pads ($1.99).

Consistent with the Eldorado’s leather interiors, I dressed my wheels with Pledge orange furniture polish ($3.49) which smells great and lasted just as long or longer than Armor All. Also, the Pledge sticks much better and does not fly off the wheels like the Armor All et al. products.

Best regards,
Matt CLC#18621


fishnjim

Since the product line was bought by Black Magic, about all I notice is you can not get the gallon refill jugs anymore.   They make you pay more for a spray bottle.   I guess to make the merger pay.   I've used it over 50 years, and don't see much difference.  A repeat spray, if needed, but if you stay on top each wash, no issue.  It is quite irritating if you inhale the overspray.   Avoid eye contact.  I use a spray head that can be adjusted to coarse/stream for what I'm spraying.   i bought a dozen or so online as reusing the home use ones don't last.   
You can get a 55 gallon drum of sodium metasilicate soap grade fairly cheap from a chemical supply house and dilute your own.  But who uses that much?   If you want it blue, add a little bluing.   Bluing promotes optical whiteness by cancelling out yellow.
I bought a bunch from a door to door peddler as a clean "all", a few years ago, and still have a supply.   It's colorless/undyed and works the same.
PS: SAFETY WARNING: Be careful if you add bleach to anything.   You're just lucky this is a basic material.   If you add bleach - 5% sodium hypochlorite, to acid, it will instantly liberate chlorine gas.   Many janitorial workers have been injured or killed mixing bleach with cleaners.
pps;We used to use brillo on scuffed WWs back in the day.   Also "cleans" chrome that's pitted/rusty.
NIH study on inhalation attached.

Jeepers Creepers

For the Aussies, use Joel's White Wall Cleaner..... easy to use, looks great.

Available from Parry Road Performance in Brisbane.
Kevin and Astrid Campbell
Australia

64\/54Cadillacking

I have always used Simple green for years but was advised by the manufacturer of my WW’s to never use Simple Green because it contains saline, and saline damages the WW. Reason being is because I have cracks in my WW’s and I would always use Simple Green which works great BTW, but the saline causes premature cracks and ruins them.


They told me plain dawn dish soap, water and a scrub brush will prevent cracking.
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